Hal 9000

That scene is the Achilles heal of this restructure concept, and I’d love to see it be as flawless as possible. Lay it on me.
I haven’t looked at it yet, but I’m sure the fixed X-Wing approach shot is great. Thanks for noticing it and then doing something about it! I’ve got some other business to wade through before I get back to TFA, but once I do it sounds like we should be in a good place to tackle a kickass V2. Thanks again to you all. Keep up the good work!

You might have an idea there.
When I take up work ok TFA again in the near future I will try that out and see how it plays.

Nah, the movie hasn’t been modified nearly enough to merit that. Not a bad idea, though, with the title motif.
The crawl will merely include a few descriptors for political background, like “…sinister FIRST ORDER has risen in secret from the ashes of the fractured Empire,” and, “Failing to convince the New Republic of this looming threat, General Leia Organa mobilizes a covert RESIATANCE to…”

Well, it’ll still be a very focused edit on this particular issue, but there are a few minuscule things I’ll want to do. Nothing major, just things like removing Kylo Ren identifying FN-2187 by name on the bridge, and a new, albeit very similar, opening crawl.

IMAX scenes?

Also, I’m not going to buy the 3D BR, but would love to take a look at the scene where Leia sends her envoy to the Republic.

There will be an eventual V2, so please do send any FX shots or mock ups you may have! Anyone who can help this be better, please do so.

I never noticed that detail. Thanks for posting. Could you send me a completed shot?

I don’t know, I kind of like “Dr. Orson, or How I Learned To Stop Worrying and Love the Death Star.” 😉

Thanks for the kudos, NeverarGreat!

I’ve used the order of IV, V, I, II, III, VI with a newcomer before and I thought it worked very well.
It’s not machete order, and I called it ‘Obi-Wan Kenobi’ order, because it’s how he would have wanted it. (And learning Luke and Leia’s relationship in Ep3 is more dramatic than in ROTJ.)
You’re right that Q2’s edits are designed to function as precursors to watching the OT without giving away the two big reveals. My edit of Ep1 also happens to remove Jabba’s little cameo, preserving that reveal as well. (I don’t remember whether Q2’s did as well.)

Option B preserves Ben Kenobi’s lies and is a great way to experience the OT and PT from Luke’s POV and frame the PT within the OT. You don’t have to begin or end (if stopping at ROTJ, anyway, which isn’t really a problem now) with a terrible movie. Putting the prequels between V and VI lets VI benefit from the backdrop of the prequels, being the only OT film that arguably does so. And going forward, you get to go from ROTJ into TFA. You do take a swan dive in terms of quality jumping from ESB to Ep1.

+1 for just experiment with making your own custom mix. We indeed all started somewhere.

I always prefer 2D showings; I just want to see the film, not be whizzed by a bunch of flyin’ whatsits!

ANH, ESB, ROTJ: The 2006 GOUT DVDs, color corrected to match the 2011 BluRays

TPM: Pan-n-scan VHS that’s been run over by a car
AOTC: Theatrical bootleg recording on VCD
ROTS: Theater bootleg with Backstroke of the West subtitles

TFA: A flipbook I made depicting the plot highlights in 32 tiny drawings, while humming Rey’s theme out of tune

Chewtobacca, if I may ask, what software did you use to compress the DeEd to a DVD? It looks stellar and relatively alias-free.

Don’t talk shit about the Holiday Special. It’s unironically good.

Tobar said:

the plans were beamed up in about four or five chunks simultaneously.

I didn’t put that together, but you’re right. I love that extra detailed effort for continuity. 😃

I’d be interested in checking this out as well.

lol, Dammit, Bobby, get outta my propane!

Wow, thanks very much. I’ll do the rest of the OT (and redo ANH) once things look temporarily stable for source material.

It was so good to be seeing so much of her lately, and this is extremely sad news. She will be sorely missed. It feels like this came out of nowhere. My next viewing of Rogue One won’t be with dry eyes.
RIP

Return of the Jedi is, after all these years, still my favorite Star Wars film. The redemption story of Vader as prompted and viewed through Luke is more powerful than anything else to me. The power of myth and Jungian archetypes working themselves out resonates with me. Luke was the only one whom saw redemption as a possibility. He placed himself at Vader’s mercy and continued to tell him he saw the good in him. He presented Vader the opportunity, and was willing to sacrifice himself for his faith in the lingering goodness in his father.
As some of you may know, I’m a therapist. Philosophically, the themes at work in ROTJ resonate with me deeply and are only enhanced by the slightly stilted, Lucas-esque direction style. I want to be Luke seeing the good in others and daring them to do what they choose.
I was so looking forward to seeing this Luke’s continuing story in TFA, and that is probably part of why I felt less than totally satisfied by what we got. (That and SKB.) My heart was racing once Rey landed on the island and began climbing toward our hero. I cannot wait to see what Luke is like in VIII under Johnson’s direction. It must be hell for him to have his apprentice, Kylo Ren, stab him through the heart with the inverted edge of his faith, and that is a story I so want to see Luke process and work his way through. I know Luke will be a supporting character at this point, but I will eat up as much of him as Johnson will give us.

EDIT: Oops. I thought this was a PM.

Ady, I’m curious if you have any plans to include or exclude the Death Star’s brief appearance at the end of Episode III.

Oh no, no… shocking news. 😦

I can relate to this all too well. It’s really a fascinating thing to think about. I feel you.

FWIW, I know what my policy would be for handling prequel material in future films if I were emperor of Disney.
Prequel-specific things can be alluded to without a problem, but never anything that appears to strain or break continuity with the OT.
Having Bail Organa depicted by Jimmy Smitts makes all the sense in the world. Referencing Mustafar is fine too. You could even reference Mace Windu as a Jedi by that logic, not that you’d want to.
However, it wouldn’t be acceptable to reference Qui-Gon Jinn as being Obi-Wan’s master, the Republic collapsing a mere 20 years prior to ANH, or Padme dying in childbirth.

This approach, which seems 100% consistent with what they’ve done so far in TFA and RO, allows three groups of fans to be happy: those whom want to ignore the PT, those whom accept but don’t love the PT, and those whom like the PT.