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- TFA: A Gentle Restructure (Released)
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I agree with y’all, so the rathtar sequence will be untouched for this project.
I agree with y’all, so the rathtar sequence will be untouched for this project.
WHO DID THIS TO MY FREAKING SPEEDER
Aside from those two puzzle pieces and the deleted scene, that leaves one more question, which I will submit for discussion.
The rathtars are something that many people have trimmed. A proposed trim of this scene for this project would be to cut from, “What do they look like,” “They look like that!” to Han telling Chewie, "I’ve got the door, cover us!"
It would remove Finn being wrangled by a rathtar tentacle and Rey coming to save him.
Now, I want to be respectful to the intentions of this project, so I would prefer to err on the side of leaving the scene alone, unless there is near universal desire for this particular cut to be made. (Remember, this ain’t my edit!)
^Okay with keeping. 😉
Great! I am okay with the TIE sunset shot and, "Those beasts!"
It might be good to export a version of the audio for the sequence that includes both, “They’ve found us,” as well as, “They’ve done it.” But I expect to go with your new line.
The invasion sequence audio is a missing piece, and I hope the deleted scene will be usable. We haven’t got too terribly far yet to go, thanks to you all.
Excellent work. I think the only piece of the puzzle is some replacement score audio from Sir Ridley for the First Order appearing over Maz’s Castle.
EDIT: At least, I think that was the plan. I apologize; I’ve been busy with the actual, real job lately.
Sounds too noisy to me. I prefer the original music edit, I think. Besides, not really in the M.O.
Heh.
Wow! Hit me up when you have any sort of test version to check out. Sounds wonderful!
Hal, if you’re reading this, were the blu-ray deleted scenes ever upscaled like the DVD ones?
No; none of them struck me as useful at the time. They were not presented well, at any rate.
Did you do the upscaling? I thought it might have been someone else (Dr. Dre?).
Most are definitely worthless. But there are a couple fun bits in “Elevator Antics” and I think “Changes to the Constitution” should definitely have been in the film. What do you mean by not presented well? Is the picture quality much worse than the DVD ones? I haven’t watched them in a while.
DrDre did the upscales at my request, and I didn’t pass along any of the BR scenes. They are unfinished and rough compared to (most of) the DVD deleted scenes.
Don’t sell yourself short. I shared your exact motivation with doing my prequel edits. (This time; not the 2006 edits.)
Use every and anything of mine you like; it’s part of the textual lineage now.
Hal, if you’re reading this, were the blu-ray deleted scenes ever upscaled like the DVD ones?
No; none of them struck me as useful at the time. They were not presented well, at any rate.
Sounds pretty effective. I am interested to see how this shakes out. Great job putting thought into your plan of attack.
Yes, that is correct. Unfortunately, the establishing shot from the deleted scene itself was very much unfinished. I figured it’d be okay to try and get away with using two different establishing shots of Palpatine’s office and hope no one notices. But, you are correct.
This project’s stated goals included not changing the “prequel” nature of the films, and so just as with TPM, the audience is expected to have already seen the OT.
I believe all four scenes involving Yoda using a lightsaber were intended to be funny, especially his duel with Palpatine. It’s hilarious, and breaks up the more serious duel it’s intercut with.
We’re just a couple of knuckleheads with NLEs and libraries of scrolls to curate.
But, having done the work, we enjoy hearing from you and discussing the now finished works.
Has anyone actually watched Labyrinth Of Evil with the included Backstroke Of The West subtitles? If so, how was it for you? Sort of like the “irrelevant subtitles from Henry VIII on the Holy Grail DVD”?
This got a laugh out of me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beDN-q3UcbY
Glad to hear it. That’s pretty cool, really, when you think about all the changes that made their way into the project. It’s quite a twisted textual history, as if it were an ancient textual tradition being researched.
No, don’t do that. You can speak your mind!
Back in 2006, I edited the DVD version of the pod race to music, and this became the template that I closely followed for COD. I used that portion of the deleted scene, and so I had to use it again to recreate my prior work.
Humorous comparison between Rey and Luke: https://youtu.be/PE2at2Wo9sU
TPM: A Naboo street cleaner power washes the streamers and confetti away in a dry, boring way, while Jar Jar fumbles around in the background.
AOTC: The now disorganized droid factory keeps churning out battle droid heads that pile up and pile up off to the side.
ROTS: Clonetrooper using a dustbin to sweep up limbs and organs from the Jedi Temple floors.
ANH: On Dagobah inside his hut, Yoda stares out the window for a few seconds while a pot of stew simmers. He mutters unintelligibly for a moment before stirring his stew.
ESB: With the top down, Wilrow Hood flies along the underside of Cloud City in a speeder, ice cream maker in the passenger seat. A hand bounces off his head as it continues to fall.
ROTJ: Nighttime on Endor. A surviving stormtrooper sits behind a large tree holding his legs. He hears something, snapping his head to face the sound. Several ewoks descend on him and tear him apart.
TFA: In his medical capsule, Finn begins to stir. The lady doctor notices from her seat, and gets up. She holds a gas mask to his face, and presses a button. Finn slinks back to motionlessness as she says, “Not yet, you don’t.”
First off, thanks for the kind words about the edit. I’m glad you enjoyed them.
I think the lines, “You’ll always be that little boy I met on Tatooine,” “Don’t try to grow up too fast,” and, “But I am grown up…” form a nice little Act 1 arc for the romance plot. (You can thank Slumberland for that.)
EDIT: Well, I suppose those lines are all there originally! But, Slumberland crafted his edit so that overcoming that obstacle in Padme’s mind, that Anakin is just a little kid, was the prime task of the romance plot at that point.
All right, I think this is what remains to be implemented in my editing timeline, aside from things that are still just ideas at this point:
Sir Ridley’s crawl,
Maaaaybe trimming out Finn being wrangled by a rathtar tentacle and Mary Sue coming to the rescue (undecided),
Adding the ‘Leia and the Resistance’ deleted scene if it can be spruced up and work well (uncertain at this point),
And NeverarGreat’s soundtrack reconstruction surrounding the final destruction of SKB.