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#1082935
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure (Released)
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Update: While we are sorting out the proposed SKB firing sequence, I’ve applied sound effects to the ā€œR2 hard driveā€ scene, and gotten Leia’s faltering shot after Hosnian Prime is destroyed to sound great as I said a few posts ago.

So, what remains:

Opening crawl (Sir Ridley)
Maz’s Castle sequence (Sir Ridley)
Deleted scene: Leia and the Resistance (NeverarGreat)

And possibly:
[Kylo Ren’s mask during second Snoke scene, and Snoke suddently standing (Pie in the sky, most likely)]
[Proposed SKB firing sequence (NeverarGreat; I leerily like it)]

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#1082926
Topic
TFA: A Gentle Restructure (Released)
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Yeah… I don’t think those earlier FO control room shots from the ā€˜weapon charging’ scene can be removed, unless someone wants to rotoscope out Gleeson from this shot:

https://ibb.co/i2czHa
https://ibb.co/mTPPiF

NeverarGreat, do you think it’d be doable to remove those two shots from your firing sequence, or would the music need to begin at an awkward spot?

EDIT: At the VERY least, I can use this to let the musical cue plan on from the big planet explosion through Leia faltering. I love it as a mockup, but I’m leery of the reused shots, particularly the FO control room.

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#1082697
Topic
TFA: A Gentle Restructure (Released)
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Well, there’s only a few things to plug in for this thing to be ready. Those are:

New opening crawl (Sir Ridley)
Maz’s castle sequence (Sir Ridley)
Sound effects for Threepio and BB8 during R2’s new hard drive scene
Kylo Ren mask, and Snoke inexplicably standing, Fx for second Snoke scene (Would be nice, not gonna be a holdup)

I’m afraid my Mac is going to spend the better part of the day restoring from a backup, but that’s what I have on my list, and I don’t think there’s anything missing from it as far as what’s needed to finish the project. I fully hope and expect to have it out well ahead of Episode VIII, for everyone’s viewing pleasure.

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#1073608
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure (Released)
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Valheru_84 said:

Not sure I understand as that’s all they’re identified by until Poe gives Finn his name? I can see how initially it may feel out of place for him to just pull it out of the air but the way he pauses alludes to some use of the force that gives him this information. Anyway, it’s exclusion doesn’t effect the main plot but I feel it might hurt his character development a little as its another scene that’s helping establish his power with the force for the audience and as I said earlier, draws some parallels with DV which is part of the overall story.

It just seems weird to me for the big bad villain to even be concerned with a serial number. To him, I’d expect Finn to be ā€œthat one trooper.ā€ I’ll probably undo the change, though, leaving it just about SKB and R2.

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#1073607
Topic
TFA: A Gentle Restructure (Released)
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Here’s what I have at this point for the Hosnian destruction, featuring NeverarGreat’s FX shots to darken SKB and remove the star destroyer. The audio sounds pretty unmolested, since the cut to the surface of the planet is in the same place audio-wise that the cut to Finn boarding the ship originally was. I added the sound effect for the exploding planet in the distance. I’m happier with this version than any prior.

https://vimeo.com/216261750
password: fanedit

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#1073364
Topic
TFA: A Gentle Restructure (Released)
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Don’t worry, the crawl will look gorgeous once Sir Ridley renders it for us! I’m fully confident in that.

My thing with Ren identifying FN-2187 is that it seems strange that he called him by serial number, or would even be inclined to want to. But, eh, it’s probably more consistent with the overall project to put it back.

I’m inclined to keep the opening ā€œwarningā€ as it is, since it matches my other fan edits, sans any other opening logos. Showing people the edit without them knowing it is a fan edit is not covered by its warranty. 😃

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#1073202
Topic
TFA: A Gentle Restructure (Released)
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The files you sent work well this way, moreso than the folded down stereo you had sent prior. It’s hard to tell on my stereo setup, but I can see that the specific sounds are more where they ought to be now, which is good. It will help it feel more in line with the rest of the movie’s soundtrack. (Subliminal things, and more obvious things like the Falcon flying by the camera panning from front to back.) Thanks again for doing that; it helps.
I still haven’t had the chance, and won’t tonight, to implement your darkened SKB firing shots, and inclusion of the additional shot without the star destroyer. I’m hoping the music will still fit in with the modified length. I’m not convinced that the re-ordering you proposed the other day will be the best avenue, either.

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#1073183
Topic
TFA: A Gentle Restructure (Released)
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Welcome, Valheru_84, and thank you for the input.

About Ren identifying FN-2187, it just seemed a little weird to me that he came up with the serial number like that. Not that it’s impossible, just weird. I don’t know; I could put it back how it was since it really is outside the goal.

About seeing the screaming people on Hosnian Prime… we are hoping to include the deleted scene in which Leia sends off her emissary, in which case it would be needed. And if not, it is beyond jarring to omit those shots and feature the ones right before and after.

About the crawl… I like it the way it is, partly because it is kept as close to the theatrical as possible, aside from deliberate changes made. I am very picky with the wording on these things, and don’t feel the need to have them comport 110% with the film itself. That is my sensibility about it, anyway. I’ll make sure it looks good before passing it to Sir Ridley to generate a crawl once the time comes.

R2’s hard drive lights… I really like how it is at present, finding it a sublime level of subtlety. I would not want to make it more obvious. It’s a nice ā€˜blink and you miss it’ thing, similar to Obi-Wan sneaking on board Padme’s ship as she heads to Mustafar, in edits that remove the ā€œJedi bathroom.ā€

I feel it’s the right thing to do to have the disclaimer in front of the movie. I opted not to include the glimmering FanEdit.org logo though, or my own logo, in order to minimize the effect you’re talking about, and to keep it silent as the film’s own opening logos are. V1 had the Hal9000 logo run post-credits, and I don’t think V2 will have it at all because most of the actual goods produced have been from you all! Maybe just the FE.org logo at the end. But I feel it’s… ā€œresponsibleā€ā€¦ to have the silent text at the start. That or possibly a quick, silent FE.org logo or something. I understand why you would want to sit someone down in front of it without being aware that its an edit, and I would share in that, but I think it needs to be there.

And, NeverarGreat, I will see what I can do with your audio. Thanks for sending it; would not hurt to give it a try.

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#1072237
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The Force Awakens: Starlight (V1.1 Released!)
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NeverarGreat said:

Snoke: "…the new Jedi will rise."
Kylo: "And FN-2187?.."
Hux: "Supreme Leader, I take full responsibility…"
Snoke: "GENERAL! Our strategy must now change."
Hux: ā€œThe weapon is ready. The time has come to use itā€¦ā€

If your edit, based on TFA:Restructured, moves the SKB plot around, would such a conversation be appropriate for the first Snoke scene? As it is, the weapon isn’t brought up until the second Snoke scene.