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#1169969
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Star Wars Episode I: Cloak Of Deception (Released)
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Ridley does. Thanks for clarifying about the crawl; there were some style choices that I didn’t even realize myself. I love the attention to detail. I did notice the STAR WARS logo not being quite as close to the camera, though didn’t say anything; I’m glad to hear that it was intentional.

And about the necklace on Alderaan. That’d really be the capstone for me, even if it is only visible for a handful of frames, given the framing of the shot. Now if we could just add it to a given scene or two of TLJ on Leia to really bring it all together, lol. (Would fit in with TLJ since it isn’t afraid of the prequels, maybe dangling in space while she is floating, with the excuse that outside of that scene gravity keeps it out of sight. I can’t picture how her clothes looked in that scene… Okay, now leaving the crazy idea department.)

Encoding Episode 1 right now, with 2 and 3 to follow once Ridley completes his work. I can’t upload it from where I am and will be for a few weeks, so it won’t be super imminent.

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#1169968
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Return of the Jedi: A Gentle Pruning (* unfinished project *)
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Yeah, I’m not crazy about that deleted scene, especially given the shape it’s in. Best of luck to anyone who wants to try to incorporate it, but I’m not your guy for it.

We can mash up every possible combination of Jake Lloyd, Hayden Christensen, and Sebastian Shaw in each of their respective appearances. Make ROTJ Jabba look like 1997 ANH:SE Jabba. Have James Earl Jones’ Vader mutter “wizard” to himself as Luke evades his TIE in the Death Star trench. Map Tarkin’s face onto itself for ANH to match the uncanny CGI Rogue One version.
Hmm… I should throw in one more. Let’s say… recast Obi-Wan’s ghost to be Ewan McGregor throughout ESB and ROTJ.

All these things would be tons of fun, but I don’t really see any practical use for this technology for Star Wars at this point in time, at least visually. None that I would actually want to be included in a real project, though I would love to see any of the above as mockups. There’s more potential in the audio department; that could yield some very useful results for edits.

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#1169847
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Re-edit "Super Series" (* unfinished project *)
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My favorite way to use TPM as a prologue is what Octorox did:

Open with logos and “a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away.” Right when it’d normally cut to the STAR WARS logo, instead cut to the wide shot of the duel of the fates (the beginning of the scene where Maul kicks Obi-Wan a few shots in). Throughout the duel, such as when Qui-Gon sits to meditate and when Obi-Wan is trapped behind the laser walls, we flashback to the key events of TPM centering on finding Anakin.

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#1169350
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1997 Special Edition Audio Mixes, GOUT-Synced (Released)
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Well, ESB will be the least ideal of the three, I think. There are a few points where I have no choice but to revert to Hairy_Hen audio for a little bit at a time as musical timing changes coincide with visual changes. I think all the transitions are all right, but it’ll be a less overall consistent mix than ANH will be. Can’t be helped, though.

There’s something that’s going to sound like a mistake, but isn’t. The music seems to catch slightly during the shot change from the interior of the Falcon to an exterior shot right after Leia nurses Luke’s wound on the Falcon bunk, and tells him she’ll “be back.” Queue it up and you’ll hear what I mean.

Empire has a great deal of musical changes and musical sync changes. Nothing I ever noticed until trying to do this. I retained 1997’s version except when a visual change prompted me not to. Though once we’re in Hairy_Hen audio, I can’t jump back out until we get to a suitable point of transition.

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#1168687
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Star Wars Episode I: Cloak Of Deception (Released)
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Thank you! The picture and sound will certainly still be compressed, though the least amount possible.
I have Ridley’s crawl for Ep1, which looks picture-perfect. I’d not blush if I somehow was able to hold a private screening in a theater.
About the battle hardened line… I’ve already completed encoding all streams and syncing many disparate things, so I am giving myself permisssion not to redo all those things and let that one go. Sorry!

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#1167583
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1997 Special Edition Audio Mixes, GOUT-Synced (Released)
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Exactly. Barring an official OOT release, this is about as future proof as it gets. Even then, I’m sure someone will GOUT-sync even that release to correspond to the various things people have done up to that point.
And thanks, Ash, your encoding setup may come in handy. I’ve just got a PCM output for ANH so I can encode it as needed once I have them all finished.

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#1167541
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1997 Special Edition Audio Mixes, GOUT-Synced (Released)
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Now available on the 'Spleen, and via the /r/Fanedits subreddit.

The 1997 Special Edition audio mixes of the original trilogy are, to my mind, the most recent mixes I can stomach for the most part, and were the first ‘modern’ mixes produced for these films. Changes aside, it is the best Star Wars has ever sounded, since the 2004 DVD and 2011 BluRay audio mixes are littered with various problems and were redone from the ground up.

This project syncs the 1997 Special Edition audio mixes to the GOUT. In the process, it had to be edited here and there to address audio differences that correspond to visual changes. The primary source is a preservation of the theatrical DTS audio for the 1997 Special Edition by CapableMetal (whose sources were in turn provided by Jetrell1969 and SilverWook), and the secondary source is Hairy_Hen’s GOUT-synced OOT audio. Special thanks to ChainsawAsh for encoding the lossless PCM output to DTS.

I have tried to stick as close as possible to the 1997 mixes, reverting to Hairy_Hen’s OOT audio as minimally as possible to meet the objective. In many places it was only necessary to use Hairy_Hen’s audio for the front channels, for example. Sometimes a visual alteration was able to be addressed without resorting to Hairy_Hen’s audio at all.

I have included a slightly editorialized version of The Empire Strikes Back’s audio which keeps Luke’s line, "You’re lucky you don’t taste very good,” and removes his scream as he falls through the Cloud City shaft. For many, these are the two elements of the 1997 mix of Empire that are not easily stomached.
This alternate version is labelled as “Custom Version” and the version without these editorial changes is labelled as “’97 Purist Version.” (Purist in the sense that it does not take the liberty of deviating from the 1997 mix in these two instances when nothing visual prompts it.)

I have also included a version of Return of the Jedi’s audio to sync with the 4K83 releases, which included two frames not present in the GOUT. This meant that any GOUT-synced audio would be a few frames out of sync after the 47-minute mark, and make for a rather distracting viewing experience.
 

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Q. “What is GOUT?”

A. The GOUT refers to the 2006 bonus DVDs containing the original theatrical versions of A New Hope, The Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi. Though it was disappointingly sourced from an old LaserDisc master from 1993 and presented in non-anamorphic format, it remains the best official release to date of the original versions of these films.
 

Q. “What does it mean to be GOUT-synced?”

A. Fans have come a long way since 2006, with many preservation and fan edit projects, such as Harmy’s Despecialized Editions and Team NegativeOne’s 35mm restoration. There have been numerous audio preservations, and Project Threepio, which presents subtitles in a multitude of languages. By convention, most of these have maintained a standard of reference by being synced to the 2006 bonus DVD release. As a result, one can borrow a video stream from here and an audio stream from there, and mux them together. It is a standardized convention for these projects to ensure wide compatibility. Due to this, you could mux these audio tracks into whatever preservation project you prefer and enjoy them.
 

Q. “This is not a preservation.”

A. Correct. My introduction to Star Wars was during the time of the Special Edition, and that is the audio mix that was encoded into my brain and feels the most familiar. I like having the option to view the original version with this slightly alternate, and properly remastered audio track. But it is not preserving anything about the original theatrical versions, that’s right.
 

Q. “Didn’t someone already do this?”

A. Yes, I have seen one other user post a similar project, though I noticed some things I felt were off, and some visual tweak whose audio was still present in the audio despite it not matching what is onscreen. I did these so I can be confident in how they turned out, and no disrespect is intended to the one who had worked on a similar idea previously.
 

Q. “How much of Hairy_Hen’s audio was used?”

A. Hairy_Hen’s audio is a very respectable restoration of the original theatrical audio, mastered in 5.1 surround. However, being sourced largely from stereo elements, it is not mastered in the same way as the Special Edition mixes. I tried to dip into his audio only as necessary, and to mask the transitions by avoiding them taking place in the middle of dialogue, preferring to segue during a change in environment to keep a sense of consistency in a given scene. Quite frequently it was perfectly seamless to transition in and back out after only a few seconds, though it just depends on the scene. There are many instances in which the two rear surround channels could be left alone and only the front three needed to use Hairy_Hen’s audio. It is not perfect, given the source material available, but I hope that it is something one can enjoy without noticing any flaws. I erred on the side of having a smooth transition over keeping the sheer percentage down of using Hairy_Hen’s audio.