^ Thanks! I’d actually already reached out to him to ask about a few other of his mockups. He said he’s enjoyed my edits, and I encouraged him to provide anything he’d like to see used like those, addressing continuity and things like changing Bail’s summons to a Senate hearing into an audio transmission.
There’s a few things I half want to change but wouldn’t actually change if I had it to do again.
What I would do differently might be to keep Jar Jar sticking his tongue out in Watto’s shop and Qui-Gon catching his tongue at dinner. I wonder about the “it’s working, it’s working” scene, but reinstating it without the scene right beforehand (awful kids) and afterward (midichlorians) is inelegant.
I guess I’m nostalgic for TPM and should just watch it once in a while, even though COD as an edit is what it should be.
LOE is getting this treatment because of the Palpatine impetus and there being a few things I’d like to try to do better while I’m at it. I hope others can assist by providing some visual tweaks.
That’s wonderful. While I’m still sticking with BluRay sources for my projects, it’s great to have the unadulterated OOT presented perfectly with home video sensibilities. Can’t wait for it to hit the 'spleen.
Yes, it’s just LOE that’s getting this update. There’s not really anything I want to do with the others. There’s a few trivial things with COD but nothing warranting all that work.
And Mala, I will export lossless audio just like I did before, so it shouldn’t be an inordinate amount of work for you if you’d like to update your audio mixes. And feel free to suggest anything! Certainly no harm in that; it doesn’t annoy me or anything.
There’s going to be a V6! The impetus for this is the presence, to whatever figurative or literal degree, of Palpatine in Episode IX. Whether he’s found a way to ‘cheat death’ or it’s just a mirage, I think its worth including a bit of dialogue that hints at his interest in immortality in Episode III.
Changes for V6, planned and under consideration:
Reinstate “to create life” and “to cheat death…”
Move ‘plot to destroy the Jedi’ deleted scene to before Anakin coming in after missing a briefing
See about augmenting or removing Chewbacca
See about removing the droids from the birth of the twins
Consider reinstating Palpatine prompting Anakin to kill Dooku (still shortened; no “dew it”) (LOE, perhaps even moreso than ROTS, has a throughline of Palpatine manipulating Anakin and him suggesting Anakin kill Dooku is in keeping with this)
Really try to reincorporate some Yoda lines about failure, maybe even dialogue from Rebels
In order to do anything further about Chewbacca, I would need some visual FX help. It had been determined previously that it would be extremely difficult to remove his bandolier. I wonder if a second bandolier could be added, to imply its a different wookiee. Most of Chewbacca’s shots have been removed, though a few remain. Luckily (?) his face looks nothing like the Chewbacca of the OT and ST.
This one should be much easier, but I would love to have someone assist by removing R2 and 3PO from the birthing of the twins (and shot of them leaving the ship to follow Padme to the medical center). This would avoid R2 and Yoda’s only onscreen meeting before ESB.
I will attempt what I can to extend the scene with Yoda and Qui-Gon, but there’s really only one shot to work with. If anything else can be contrived visually to extend the scene plausibly, I would welcome ideas or FX shots. (Rear shot of Yoda with asteroids floating in the background?)
The dialogue for the scene could go something like this:
Y: “Failed, I have.”
Q: “Yoda, my old friend… Do you feel responsible? Forgive yourself.”
Y: [Dialogue about him being too blind to see things or that he failed the Jedi.]
Q: “Come to Dagobah. You must complete what I could not.”
I was going to post something, but DominicCobb sums it up. It’s a great fan film with nothing wrong with it at all. But reincorporating it into ANH would feel very wrong. And it’s perfectly fine for that not to be their intent with it.
When the dianoga has Luke in the trash compactor, he calls out, “Blast it, will ya? The gun’s jammed.”
Did anyone else always hear it as, “Blast it, will ya, for god damn”?
Part of what makes the original trilogy so wonderful is its sincerity. Things are played as fantastical but grounded in earnest portrayals of these characters. The dialogue and pacing were unusual and somewhat stilted, having a distinct flavor. Episodes 7 does pretty well at replicating this, and it is noticeable when it breaks with that. Episode 8 does so more often (inserting sardonic jokes and quips which sound like they would fit in better in a Marvel movie) and never quite reaches the same mastery of the flavor of Star Wars dialogue.
This is all somewhat subjective, but I picked up on this during my first viewing. Worst offenders are Poe’s doing. “Big ass door” doesn’t feel like Star Wars in the least.
Insert Art Carney into the war room scene on Kashyyyk in ROTS.
That particular shot is one that I would like to see replaced. For one thing, R2 looks completely wrong.
Thanks, Ziggy. I’m hoping Adywan publishes a regraded ROTJ the way he did for ANH. If not, I know I’ll need to use footage from 4K83 for that section and get help making it blend in.
As to the other two things, I don’t want to reintegrate deleted scenes for this hybridized SE version.
The Princess… you have to take care of her.
Oh, the feels…
I wouldn’t take that as granted. Kenny Baker didn’t receive one in TLJ. And I’m not sure whether Mayhew was technically involved with TROS.
Hoping I’m wrong, of course.
Very good to see, Ridley. No need to rush, but we’ll move forward with delivering the final product whenever you’re able to complete it.
Someone PM’d me about whether ANH was available because he was going to introduce someone to Star Wars this weekend. So for anyone interested, I just uploaded a workprint version (without the hyperspace effect) to Google Drive to sit alongside the ROTJ workprint and completed ESB.
He’s one of the very few cast members I’ve met in person. RIP
I’ve frequented these boards since 2003, and I think it’s fair to say… It’s nice when projects actually get finished and released.
Is it possible? Maybe, but it’s beyond my personal capabilities. As things are I am fine with what’s there. We see three rontos in a wide shot, then one more as the speeder parks in front of the cantina.
When Leia uses her comlink to call R2 to open the door to the shield generator bunker in ROTJ, use CGI to depict R2 holding a comlink with one of his arms, ala ROTS.
Optionally, have him toss it aside before rolling out.
TiddySprinklesPimpBillion said:
The Clone Wars > Clone Wars
Fight me. 😛
If Palpatine could come back from exploding, he is firmly in ‘The Master’ territory and there’s no hope of believing he’s ever gone for good.
I seem to recall that Lucas circa 2005 through TCW was adamant that Sith could not survive death. The one that appeared to Yoda was an apparition only.
And, yes, I know Lucas changes his mind on these things more often than his clothes. But, I hope he sticks with that idea and that JJ and company do, too.
Thanks, oojason!
Just a quick reminder that all you guys and gals can edit your own thread titles if you wish.
Go to the first post, scroll down to the end of the post, and click on the light blue ‘Edit’ button - where you can enter text in the ‘Topic title’ section.
Or ask a mod to do it 😃
I don’t seem to have this option when editing the OP. Could you perhaps retitle this thread to “The ‘Custom Special Edition’ That Almost Wasn’t, But Then Was”? 😉
Bringing back Palpatine in order to allow Ben Solo to recapitulate Vader’s sacrifice from ROTJ in order to once again kill the very same being would make the ST feel pointless. It would seem that ROTJ’s ending was broken down to be kicked a couple movies down the road and then redone.
If they have to bring Palpatine back, I hope it’s a vision or something rather than a true post-mortem consciousness. If Lucas had any say in it, I doubt that’s what would happen.
I guess I never went and edited the OP. Whenever everything’s done, whenever that is, it’ll be proven wrong.
I am wondering why you said that this is a project that will most likely never be made by you. You are working on this project, and you already completed work on The Empire Strikes Back.
The reason is simple: We can’t edit thread titles. 😃