Here’s about what the 3PO line would be like. I guess it depends on how badly we want it; it’s not perfect. But, when I gave it all I know how to give it, it certainly would not the most questionable audio decision included in these edits.
Hmm, the “special” thing turns out not to be as easy as I had hoped. There’s a line of dialogue I was hoping to lift for 3PO from the Clone Wars series.
The line is, “…I was once the protocol droid to the chief negotiator for the entire Manakron system.” I was hoping to use a truncated version in place of, “I’m not sure this floor is entirely stable.”
However, the dialogue in Anakin’s room is not isolated to the center channel, and there is a lot of noise on the clip from TCW, leaving me with little to use!
Shit, you’re right. That’s damns subtle, though. I bet it’d be relatively easy to animate the wrench as falling past that opening rather than into it for a single digit number of frames, if the clip is good otherwise.
I’ve got something special to show you all later today, hopefully, too. 😉
The audio is rough, because I don’t want to sort out the intricacies unless we like where this is going. I wanted to try to re-include only Jar Jar getting his tongue caught in the energy (without any other clowning around), and this is the way it seems the scene has to be in order to make that work. Unfortunately, there’s a necessary shot of him wildly dropping the wrench in reaction to Anakin calling for him.
https://vimeo.com/336833977
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I’m probably overanalyzing it, but my thinking is:
ROTS emphasizes that she is okay despite passing out (Obi-Wan even kneels to check on her) specifically so that the reason for her death can be due to emotional anguish, which is made explicit later.
In LOE, it is again emphasized that she’s fine, and she goes on to survive the movie, with the robots telling us that she was badly injured. We need to infer she will die eventually from what happened, with no textual reason to believe it will be due solely to long-form emotional anguish. I actually think the bone cracking is helpful in any fan edit, both Boleyn or regular (removing the ‘lost the will to live’ and even ‘we don’t know why’ lines).
I did tone down the effect, removed high frequencies, and moved it to after she speaks. If you weren’t watching the edit on a good sound setup and paying attention it would be easy to miss, but it’s there.
Okay, thanks, I’ll try revising the specifics of the cracking sound.
And if the fountain in the apartment is only in one or two of the front channels, I suppose it would be easy to introduce more gently. I’ll try it and see.
Okay, didn’t know it was that subtle that it would need an explanation. I added some bone cracking sounds as Padme is choked in closeup.
What do you all think about this? Yea or Neigh?
https://vimeo.com/336657054
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I think Palpatine is a hologram within a hologram as Anakin phones him from the Temple.
I haven’t seen or read GoT, but could someone draw a rough analogy using Star Wars to describe what about the show seems to have gone wrong? No spoilers, so the analogy should be indirect. (I.e., not just swapping character names.)
Here’s a new version of this scene, with the music in much better shape. I used left and right channels to fill in the center whenever there is no dialogue or non-traffic foley, in order to only have one innocuous crossfade of the musical score. Sounds much better.
https://vimeo.com/336494390
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Damn, you’re right about those two audio issues, Mala. That’s unnerving. I guess that alone merits fixing. Thanks for letting me know about those.
I noticed the end credits glitch a while ago, and when I did [Tourette’s Guy] I said, “Shit.” [/Tourette’s Guy]
I’m afraid I am not having any luck with removing Palpatine’s lines about the Jedi killing “all the senators” and Anakin believing the Jedi will move against the Senate. The rear channels are free of dialogue… some of the time, but not during a critical shot. The music playing at that point does not appear on the soundtrack, either. I can’t do anything further than I already have with that conversation without making a big mess out of the music. Hopefully in this version we can somewhat believe that Anakin is choosing to believe these things about the Jedi.
About “General Skywalker.” That title is nowhere in the films and, while it’s plausible, I just don’t see benefit in tossing it in there. It’s appropriate for Anakin to be something of “the learner” and Anakin moves along in this film as someone deeply accustomed to be something of a slave. He and Obi-Wan are both knights, but he’s certainly newer at it.
Anakin having a padawan of his own prior to Episode III never felt right to me, personally.
That’s a great look for Jakku, makes it stand out somewhat. Great job!
Angel sent me this (not his work):
What were Mala’s additions to TAS?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1m9NK8woKyGqj6EQNHgUxUrWlaSTg8Ug7/view?usp=drivesdk
And have you ever entertained the thought of releasing the new versions of the crawls with their original titles?
Ridley would be the only one who could do that. If he would like to that’s up to him. I can see how some people would like to have them that way.
Your ideas and work on Ep3 are exceptional, and they serve your goals very well. They’re just not precisely my goals here.
I believe you used the violin-ish first part of “Anakin’s Dream” to restore Anakin and Padme’s First meeting, right? I like how the latter part of the track faintly echoes Schmi’s funeral and I think I’ll try to find a spot in the movie to work it in.
I seem to recall asking in the past, but I don’t remember what ever came of it, but do you still have the audio you used to give Anakin and Padmé some chuckles before their sunset argument?
Another thing about that: having a gentler, fainter version of Obi-Wan as the critical mentor provides a sense of continuity between films. They’re the same characters and, while they’ve grown, can still harken back to where they started. There needs to be some sort of reminder about that to help fuel Anakin getting fed up with him on Mustafar. “Don’t lecture me, Obi-Wan!”
Does that jive with TCW? Not really, even if it is a better take on these characters. But it does work better as follow-up to Episode II, which is what’s most important.
And hey, Mala already expressed interest in updating the alternate audio tracks, so that ought to be to the liking of anyone desiring these sorts of adjustments.
Hmmmmmmmm… I cannot promise anything, but it miiiiight be worth reissuing TAS, even if I don’t change anything, just to include Mala’s audio tracks in the main release. I’ll have to think about this; it’s never a trivial amount of work.
I’d rather not introduce the title of General into the film for him, I think. I’m also okay with Anakin referring to Obi-Wan as ‘Master’ a few times as a term of endearment and respect, since it’s clear he isn’t formally his padawan anymore.
I would do myself a favor by perusing NFBism’s cutlist, for certain. However, IDGAF about The Clone Wars, so there’ll be no “General Skywalker” or anything like that. (It’s just soooo ugly to watch.)
I’m always gratified to hear TAS being well received! It’s the only one of the three I’m not planning to give a V6.
Thanks for the feedback! I could always omit the tongue gag in Watto’s shop but keep it in the dinner scene.
Weird for clones who all have the same accent as their genetic host whom they presumably did not spend the majority of their time around. 😉
Do you think that if you decided to use this, you’d have someone talented with visual effects add Anakin’s scar to the other side of his face?
Hmmm, try this one: https://vimeo.com/336120650
Here’s another attempt, with score from the soundtrack used to roughly sync with Anakin’s shot without getting unwanted sound effects.
https://vimeo.com/336114601
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