Thanks and I’m glad you like them. Anything related to these ideas has been hashed out and tossed over for like a decade at this point and I don’t plan to revise Ep3 any further. I decided not to try to influence the ideal viewing order, as it would be a large, overarching idea to try to realize.
Since COD will eventually get an update in the form of TMWNN’s VFX and color work, and we have the 3PO AI voice that Jar Jar Bricks has produced for TROS: Ascendant, I’m drawing up lines to generate for him. Here’s what I’ve got so far.
“Master Anakin rescued me after I was abandoned.”
“Space flight is rather perilous.” (With a tone consistent with responding in agreement to something he just heard from R2)
“I didn’t even survive my last assignment aboard a starship.”
“Master Anakin, you have saved me from the scrap pile and I am grateful. However, I fear your work remains… incomplete.”
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Note that in the prequel trilogy, there are three lines, one per film, that form a little arch for 3PO. (And he is a slightly different character than the world-weary 3PO we get in the OT.)
“I can assure you they will never get me onto one of those dreadful starships.”
“I’m not worried, R2, it’s just that I’ve never flown before.”
“I think I’m beginning to get the hang of this flying business.”
I do not plan to revise LOE further, so bonus points if the lines generated for COD can set the stage for the last of these. (Ep2’s line was already replaced.)
I think someone needs to change their socks.
PM’d a German speaker, and the only other language I need is French. Anyone know who speaks French around here? MalaStrana seems to have gotten banned from the only other place I know to look for him.
EDIT: Thanks to nevertellmetheodds for sending me both via PM. I now have all the translations needed.
I used the FCP7 color correction wheel (3-wheel) to dial it away from green, doing so more for the midrange than the blacks and even moreso for the highlights. This was a blunt adjustment with no nuance other than my eyeballs and keeping it proportioned. (Say it was -9 for the highlights, that would mean it would probably have been -6 for the midrange and -3 for the blacks.)
Every shot and scene in which D-O appears or whenever he is nearby, he continually recites binary.
Thanks for those so far!
Luckily V3 does not do a whole lot to adjust the overall sync of things, and when it does it is close together, so this should not be too bad.
Well, as usual, I imagine that I’ll exceed the pessimistic timeframe I implied earlier.
Here is everything that I need translated by native speakers. Need French, Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, German, and Dutch.
“You lightspeed rammed?”
“You can’t lightspeed ram the Falcon!”
“His followers have been hiding something for years.”
“An enormous stockpile of Star Destroyers from the Old Empire.”
“Each ship has been modified with dreadnaught-tier laser cannons.”
“He’s too dangerous.”
“A Jedi needs her weapon.”
“They paid for your protection.”
“In more than one way.”
“What tedious work.”
“What we really need is a mechanic, ideally an R2 unit.”
“I am going with Mistress Rey on a very important mission.”
Fascinating. Who would have thought that a film print would be such a uniquely valuable thing for AOTC?
I don’t recall getting any, anyway.
And yeah, it’s the same take used at the start when Leia calls, “Rey, be patient” and when she says “Rey, never be afraid of who you are.”
Hard to imagine a good place to put it though. As the heroes leave, Lando keeps talking and the audio trails off as he says something about his lost daughter?
Perfect at the script level, but the AI voice is the trouble, for Luke as he delivers lines in this scene.
Replace D-O’s lines so that he exclusively speaks in names of emotions.
“Sadness.”
“Happiness.”
“Vexation.”
“Dread.”
Slight update. I just don’t feel that Luke’s “final lesson” line feels right when put into context, only because it doesn’t match his tone and cadence in the scene. I love the line itself, but it just doesn’t seem like it’ll work seamlessly.
Also, and I think I am retracing my steps on this one, Poe’s line “Someone’s coming” doesn’t work well only because the center channel has the sounds of the approaching horses along with his line “heads up.” When I kill his original line it drops out these sounds.
I can’t believe I forgot to try Leia’s line “come home” so that remains on my list to look at.
BUT, I did start syncing the English subtitles, taking notes about each adjustment so that I can manually apply all of it to each of the seven subtitle tracks. There’s… gonna be several nights of this, and a while yet before V3 actually gets released. Tedious work.
That was already done in V2. It’s sort of a midpoint between the original and Starlight, so that it fits in reasonably well with whichever version of TFA one saw.
PM sent
Sounds like him, not an inspired delivery and the test will be how it sounds baked in. It’s on my list of things to do next time I’m in there. Thanks so much.
I like those Luke lines! Could the AI be directed to deliver the line slower? Not that it would necessarily, but as though it could lead directly into, “Final lesson… some things are stronger than blood.”
And I think those Leia lines work well, further linking her efforts with Han, since that is what he told Ben when they spoke in TFA.
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I agree with JJB here about a line for Ben. Silence from him isn’t conspicuous to me, and having him appear as a spirit at the end is all that’s needed. (But without his appearance, it really felt missing; like, did he not make the cut? Is he in Jedi Hell?)
I bet if they had this tech during the development of TROS they would have used it. Ethically speaking, I’d say using this is justified if it helps a project achieve its artistic vision, particularly if it serves as a way to honor an actor that passed away.
I can’t remember: were you no longer interested in Leia saying “Come home!” to Ben when she reaches out? It would be a difficult line to sell but I still think it would be doable.
If you would like to workshop a line like that I’d be open to considering it, but it’d really depend on how it sounds and feels. Not a bad idea at all, and I don’t enjoy saying no when something you work on doesn’t quite seem to fit perfectly, to no fault of yours.
Also… do you think the Luke AI voice could be made to say to Rey, “Final lesson”? I think that would let us pay off the “three lessons” from TLJ without a clunky number that could feel jarring. And it means that from here on out it is Rey being sent off to fulfill her destiny with all that she needs.
Thanks for pointing out the pop. I’m not necessarily planning to revise TLJ but I’ll note it for if I ever do.
I get that. I think these AI lines are highly subjective because we know that’s what they are. Normally one could appraise it as like “this like in its original context was like this and here it doesn’t fit well.”
Those are really nice. Thank you.
I’d welcome any second attempts you’d care to make. The two used at present are “he’s too dangerous,” and “a Jedi needs her weapon.”
No.
