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+1 for TPM as best and ROTS as worst prequels

This is an enormous “if,” but if they do, may as well go balls to the wall.

To me it’s too late for IX to introduce or do anything radically new, so I’m just hoping for a thematically appropriate conclusion to the stupidly-now-called “Skywalker Saga” (“because now we want Star Wars to include space-stuff that has nothing else in common but their titles”) in the vein of “see, kid,
I knew you could do it, and the lessons you learned along the way will always help you.”
Basically, if the whole saga is ANH, IX would be the part when Luke flies back down to the Rebel base and hears Ben tell him, and the audience, “The Force will be with you… always.”

“It just isn’t fair! Why can’t Uncle Owen afford a time machine?”

I’ll make a promise right now: if IX makes plot-central use of time travel, such that our characters literally go into the past and either alter or substantially interact with it, I will stand up out of my seat, drive back home, and none of you will ever hear from me again.

That would be the most bankrupt thing they could possibly do, and I don’t believe it.

No way.

Fair enough, on all points, I suppose. But I know they aren’t changes I would like to make.
And I don’t think Snoke was on the ship with Hux. The officer tells him Snoke is “making contact from his ship,” which we later see is the enormous paper airplane-looking ship.

LordPlagueis, thanks for clarifying. If one moved the two Snoke/Hux scenes back to back it would have to imply a timejump since there’s a change of location. It’d also push back the reintroduction of Luke and Rey further.

The ‘Luke mourns Han’ scene was reinserted where the deleted scenes reel has it, and with the footage available I’m not sure how one could go from “Where’s Han” immediately into him crying. Rey is in the room at first, then suddenly not, and Luke processes things rather suddenly. I think as things stand Luke putting up a front and retreating allows him to cry in private about what’s built up, and cutting directly to Leia implies Han is at the center of it for both of them.
I agree that it’s a stronger cut (or radial wipe, but you know what I mean) from Rey’s line about not leaving without him to her following him around the island, though. I wonder if RJ was right to cut the snippet along with the Finn and Poe scene. I at least see why, even if they’re worth including for the sheer value of this edit bring ‘alternative.’ V3 will be a few minutes longer than V2, and neither features the callback to Poe’s line about where Finn belongs. If one can only have both or neither of these scenes, perhaps the original film is a better option.

Well, hurry up, goldenrod!

Fake EDIT: Yknow, because you said something similar to that line…

ziggyonice said:

I just wanted to say I love you, NeverarGreat.

I’m with you, too.

No rush; worth the wait!

Poppasketti’s edit has a couple of those ideas manifested, but I agree that perhaps Ivan’s re-edit might be a better fit outright.

Combining the scenes you suggest combining would be odd choices if you ask me, and I can’t see them feeling right.

I appreciate the Yoda scene all the more today after stumbling onto a video about the concept of “kill the Buddha,” which I won’t expound upon here.

I guess that scene, and the movie as a whole, is intended as a shock to our system, and one that I’ve come to love. I still feel that some of the window dressing and techniques aren’t all that great, but I appreciate the core messages. Iconoclasm, tearing down, rebuilding, letting go, finding balance. I’m glad to have more from Luke to learn from and alongside, even as my own religious and philosophical beliefs remain in a state of uncomfortable upheaval.

Well, I don’t plan to remove Phasma or the fight between her and Finn, so there’s nothing to worry about there.

The Luke Jakku quip is something I’ve hemmed and hawed over but I think it’s just not something that we would have seen in the OT, but that we have seen in the ST. So I’d prefer to keep Luke away from it since he doesn’t do it much. The reed gag later on seems more consequential and part of the point being made, so it feels different to me.

Whatever happens, I’ll get a solid workprint out before IX for anyone interested in having it for a countdown viewing.

Interesting idea, especially with an ‘authentic’ resource like that to potentially plug in. I can’t say his voice really bothers me in the first place, and each trilogy needs one film without subtitles! (And a crawl with no CAPS.)

Okay, those last two points are in jest.

What all aliens speak English in the films?

• Nemoidians - sound like Asian accents
• Gungans - fake dialect or accent
• Watto - what I sound like trying to do either an Italian or NY Jewish voice because, while I like to have fun, I’m not an actor
• Mas Amedda - British, speaking from behind makeup
• Malastare senator - sounds like a female voice from the news
• Yoda - odd voice and syntax
• Ki Adi Mundi - British
• Zam - sounds like a human lady while in human form, then with an audio filter while in normal form
• Dex - fat guy from a sitcom
• San Hill - oldish sounding voice
• Techno Union guy - filtered
• Grievous - filtered Eastern European voice
• Utupau guy - odd voice
• Unklar Plutt - slightly filtered British voice

I might have missed a few but it seems there’s plenty of precedent for this sort of thing so I’m not sure why it’s a problem, beyond some of your subjective impressions, which is fair enough.

I don’t have access to the binaries anymore, but I’ll try Myspleen. Any idea what it was called?

I’ll send you a PM. If anyone already knows how to find a link to my other edits, it’s the same one link that takes you to all of my Star Wars stuff.

Ha, that bear typo is funny.

I don’t think any of those things fit for me, Abram. Luke drinking the milk rubs into Rey’s face the sort of thing that she looks away from.
Maz’s sex line is the best part of what is unhelpably a silly scene, so I don’t want to remove it.

I’ll have to take a look at the detonator from poppasketti’s edit, though.

I can’t post a clip right now, but it goes:

Luke calls back to a knock on the door with “go AWAY.”

Chewie’s grenade blows the door against the far wall, and could have easily killed Luke.

Chewie steps in, roaring angrily.

Luke asks “Chewie, what are you doing here?”

Chewie growls and speaks in a medium tone.”

Luke asks “The Falcon?” A bear passes. “Where’s Han?”

CourtlyHades296 said:

Somebody posted a 3PO Audio archive a while back that could be scoured for lines.

I repeat so that this unanswered question doesn’t get buried: does anyone know where to find this?

I was impressed by how the scene played without Rey interpreting for Chewie, but I’ll see what I think in a while.

Maz’s comment and Rey asking about a cowl are both part of the film’s sexual undertones. I still really dislike the entire Maz scene, but if it must be kept then I want to keep the sexual humor.
Rey’s question to Ren is another example of her being somewhat prudish or new to sexuality, just like how she looks away from the walrus that Luke milks.

The door is not shut on this, but here’s my current changelist for a V3. (Some of these ideas are from krlozdac’s newly published TLJ edit.)

• Remove the silly mugshot of Hux after commenting on Poe’s X-wing approaching
• Remove Rey interpreting Chewbacca to Luke (He just responds with “The Falcon?”)
• Remove Luke’s quip about Jakku being “pretty much nowhere” (the new movies are somewhat snarky in ways the OT never was IMHO, and so I’d rather keep Luke away from that - humor, but not gags)
• Remove Rose responding to Finn’s “MTFBWY” with “you too.”
• Tighten up Finn and Rose’s reaction to Maz’s “Oh yes, he can” for better timing
• Reinstate a trimmed version of the balcony scene overlooking kids and horses being beaten on Canto Bight
• Reinstate Rey asking Kylo Ren if he has a cowl to put on

Here’s my version of the balcony scene section. Nothing revolutionary, but keeping the germ of the coin gag provides enough filler to represent time passing for Finn and Rose to search the place and allows the jingling from BB8 afterward to remain.

https://vimeo.com/346999083
password: fanedit

Removing Phasma is an interesting idea, and I might be able to take a cursory glance at what might be needed. But, I’m inclined to just leave it as is, just because I’m skeptical that it would be convincing.