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Isn’t the reason Rey snoops around Kylo’s quarters in the first place because she’s looking for the dagger? If she never ends up needing it, that might not be good to remove.
I just saw it for the second time and liked it a lot more. I still think it’s the weakest of the ST, but it’s not nearly the unmitigated disaster I thought it was on Thursday. I won’t be any more bummed out moving from TLJ to this when I marathon the ST than I am going from ESB to ROTJ when I do the OT.
I sincerely hope my second viewing mirrors your experience.
So how did Leia know Rey was a Palpatine but Luke didn’t?
I would think it would be specific, not just that she sensed it. Otherwise, why wouldn’t Luke have? (At least once he reconnected himself to the Force.)
I think he did?? or am I misremembering?
In TROS Luke says Leia knew, and I inferred that he meant he did not. In TLJ Luke very clearly doesn’t know who Rey is or what is significant about her. He sees that she ‘went straight to the dark,’ but this only struck a nerve because of Ben.
I liked it but rolled my eyes a lot. Luke catching the lightsaber and raising his X-wing from the water were the worst. Rey being Palpatine’s granddaughter were the worst. The overexplaining of everything was the worst. Chewie finally getting his medal was the worst.
It’s like they took this seriously
http://www.dorkly.com/post/86874/if-the-last-jedi-haters-got-the-movie-they-wanted
Eerie.
^ I hadn’t realized the shot of Leia holding the medal was going to be right before she layed down. That should so have been kept! It ties in Han’s appearance as a memory into her efforts to call out to Ben.
Yeah, that’s something an edit should try to include.
Hmm. There was a moment on Ach-To in TROS where I half expected Luke to respond to Rey with, “Well, fortunately for you I am now omniscient, and can just tell you the information you need.”
I apologize for my bitter comments about the box office so far. I don’t want to be that guy. I’m honestly surprised to see widespread positivity about this one, and I don’t want to prevent that enjoyment from happening.
Like I said, I’m looking forward to seeing my own perception rebound upward over time, with the group’s help, hopefully.
So how did Leia know Rey was a Palpatine but Luke didn’t?
I would think it would be specific, not just that she sensed it. Otherwise, why wouldn’t Luke have? (At least once he reconnected himself to the Force.)
Look who’s got a case of the not-gays.
Also, I noticed you made an edit of Rogue One on your Google Drive. I thought you said you weren’t going to make edits of the spin-off films.
I barely did. I just took a few ideas from DigMod to make a very quick edit.
And I won’t make a thread for an edit of TROS until I’m sure I’ll be doing one. Don’t wait up, it might be a while.
lol, maybe I’d have done better with this:
I guess this is the one that finally got to me. Maybe I’ll come around, but I naturally would hope the market would reward creativity and in my admittedly petty, kneejerk attitude toward a faceless corporation I would rather have the forces of demand shape things for the better. It’s the only thing that would.
If I’m wrong and most people liked it, then my thoughts won’t matter anyway. I won’t apologize for disliking the movie, and the extent of my nastiness as an individual is to briefly shake my fist before retreating to stew on things and begin to try to understand the movie. I’m hardly an obnoxious YouTuber.
I can’t type much right now but I wanted to say that I don’t begrudge anyone their opinion on this, and am sincere in wanting to pick the brains of those who enjoyed it.
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So, Ash, it sounds like you’re essentially saying this is a “Good-bad” movie, one enjoyable for being balls-to-the-wall bad.
What say you to the idea that trying to hold 9 alongside 7 and 8 makes them make no sense? In other words, must one divest themselves of investment in this particular story to then be able to enjoy the ‘fuck it’ approach?
you managed to make Attack of the Clones watchable
Hardly. I mostly just synthesized the ideas of others and tried to present them well. It’s hard to imagine TROS in particular being subjected to much fan editing, being such an aggressive and breakneck movie. I will try to understand it, but I suspect it’s as vacuous as it seems. No one had the chance to put any thought into it, so the surface level is the entirety of it.
I’m really not sure about modifying any of the other films to suit IX right now, because the grief is still too near. I very well may just choose to ignore it.
TROS is actively antithetical to everything I’ve tried to do the past handful of years, and deeply incongruous with the good aspects of the last two films taken collectively. If I’m going to give it a fair treatment, I will need to take time to muster enough goodwill toward it, come to understand it somewhat thoroughly, and most importantly wait for at least some community ideas. Or I could retreat to a remote island and burn the fan edits.
Saw it again today. Liked it even more. Definitely my 3rd favorite behind ESB and ANH.
I want to understand you.
“Conference room. Now.”
Maybe I’m old school, but I find it impossible to get too excited about much beyond the Skywalker Saga.
I still frame it the old way: things that have “Episode __” in the title are ‘Star Wars’ proper, and everything else is Expanded Universe and may or may not be steamrolled at any time. That’s remained true in recent years despite official denial. Fight me.
So now that the grande finale of Episode IX has graced us, all there is to do with the rest of time is generate endless amounts of EU material, the equivalent of a mountain of paperback novels despite the form factor or cost to produce.
Worlds serve stories, and once the story is told the world goes away. To set something else in the same world is merely to craft a similar world for a new story.
I feel like TFA and especially TLJ have enough merit to include, and I’ve invested a great deal into each. It ends with the death and figurative rebirth of the main hero, ending on a meta-reflection about people being impacted by the stories.
But, doesn’t it leave the plot unresolved? Not really, since the ST sets up the idea that empires and rebellions will continue to cycle around one another endlessly, anyway. No matter where you end the plot, the themes of TLJ are where they end with meaning.
I wouldn’t loathe this movie so much if it weren’t ostensibly the conclusion of the saga. In that respect, it fails utterly.
I can’t imagine ending a saga viewing with this. Broom boy is where it’ll have to be.
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Jannah was a love interest for Lando.
Also, we need to give Rey’s father a third eye.
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