Hal 9000

I think it should be a priority to find ways to state or imply that Palpatine stashed many Star Destroyers from the days of the Empire, possibly manufacturing them to be stored in reserve. (Because having cultists on an unknown world building “the largest fleet the galaxy has ever known” by smuggling in parts here and there that are all identical to a specific model of a decades-old destroyer is reeeeeal dumb.)

And the manpower for these stashed destroyers come from the First Order which was ushered in by Snoke as a puppet.

It’s still convoluted, but that makes a great deal more sense at least.

Neat! Hope you enjoy those as well, and thanks for saying so. 😃

Good. I mean, it’s the end of the movie!

Of course. Thanks. 😃

I’ll send you a PM.

I know you’re alluding to something, but I can’t remember where I got that exact phrase.

I agree in principle. It would also fit in with Snoke-as-Palpatine-wearing-VR-headset, as he ordered the same thing before.

Just a pedantic clarification: I used to have the Wilhelm added to the BB8T-ST, but I removed that scene in V3. So, now it’s during the hangar scene.

Luke is a sane character in an insane meta narrative across the ST.

“Heir to” sounds preferable to me, more formal than “heir of” in the way I feel these title crawls should be.

The Jedi in this sentence is or are the total package. Rey is heir to all that the Jedi were and had. “To” communicates that she inherits their sum totality, whereas “of” sounds like the Jedi are passing something down while remaining distinct. Like maybe they left her their beach house. I think that book title gets it right.

“I’m the best kind of correct: technically correct.”

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I’m planning to use the new version for ROTJ once it’s on disc. ROTJ looks pretty good as is to my eyes, so I don’t feel the need to wait for Adywan to produce his color corrections first.

I’m not planning on revising ANH or ESB, though. They were done top to bottom using those sources and I’m not gonna start over from scratch when they look pretty good.

EddieDean said:

I like the crawls above - tried taking the best elements of all of them, but with respectful nods to the way JJ likes his stories to unfold:

The dead speak! The villainous COUNT DOOKU has returned, to herald the return of his dark master, EMPEROR PALPATINE. Dooku is killed by Admiral Pryde, but not before revealing a secret Sith technique to create a new galactic navy where each ship gets its own Death Star laser!

Luke Skywalker’s message of hope has reached the far corners of the galaxy, and the civilians of countless worlds are almost committed - they need just one more famous hero to come and get them before they rise up to join the resistance against the evil FIRST ORDER and also the new and bigger FINAL ORDER.

Meanwhile, Rey has read in the Jedi texts that her force bond with Kylo Ren is a FORCE DYAD, which is one of the reasons she’s very powerful. But could there be another, darker source of her power? Watch the movie to find out! Also Finn will be there.

Best one yet.

‘Heir to the Jedi…’ is correct, if semi-archaic.
I don’t think it would be wrong to say something like “heir to the throne,” and “heir of the throne” would sound wrong. ‘Jedi’ acts as a noun in this case.

But hey, we’ll see what the crawl ends up like. It’s one of the best parts of doing these edits.

That was right around the time I first learned about torrents.

Those were good days.

Good days.

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Yeah I’m sure I’ll give the crawl more attention as we get closer to being able to work with the source material directly. For now I’m kind of enjoying taking a mental semi-break from all this.

^ It was me, after formerly adding it as a trooper was hit by the BB8T-ST.

Yeah. FCP7 is already well past it’s lifespan and I’m not in a hurry to learn all over again using something else. I’ll always have FCPX for personal or simple things, but I’m happy with having good 1080p Star Wars and LOTR stuff. That’s 95% of all I’ve edited anyway. This was always a short set of projects rather than a hobby. It’s just that those projects went on and on.

And it’ll take a handful of miracles to have the time required to eventually complete a TROS project.

I don’t have a lot of time and have to type with one hand right now, but I appreciate the continued discussion.

I would love to draw an explicit connection between the First Order and Final Order, however tenuous. I’m not sure if the crew have insignias that aren’t FO, so maybe that could be some work to do to make it feel valid.

The only reason that thing about trimming Rose was on the list to remind me to check it out because someone suggested it, but I don’t know the scene well enough from memory to know what they meant. It probably won’t happen anyway, so don’t worry.

The reason I want to replace Kylo’s line “I never lied to you” is because that revelation in TLJ was not something he told Rey at all, he just goaded her into saying (admitting) it herself. Having him now say “you were right” is more congruent with what came before.

jarbear said:

Hal, has this topic been discussed yet?:

One issue people have is the “suddenness” that Kylo switches sides. Granted, we know he’s always been torn between both sides of the conflict, but I do understand that feeling of the reversal of him “going all in.” I think part of that stems with the “Skype” convo when she is in the Star Destroyer. His motivation was for her to turn to the dark side and whatnot. However, since he is wearing the helmet it allows for easier wiggle room to change some aspects of the conversation.

He’s been obsessed with her and wants Rey on his side. In Last Jedi, he wanted her to join him … Forget about everything and everyone, Jedi, Resistance, etc. etc. So what if the dialogue changes to remove the “join the dark side” to just “Join me.” This adjusts his motivation in that scene to focus on the two of them, and not what side to be on. That way, when he later turns, it helps it feel a little more “natural” since it’s not about being in the light or the dark, but now HIM joining with Rey.

I like that idea also!

FreezingTNT2 said:

@Hal 9000 Do you plan on removing the “I am all the Sith/Jedi!” exchange between Darth Sidious and Rey? The exchange sounds really awkward and clunky.

Anything is possible, but I’m not actively planning to.

Yes.

I love Luke in TLJ. In contrast to Rey Mary Sue (and I think TROS made it clear this is a valid perception of her), I really relish failure Luke. I had said prior to the ST that my favorite thing about Luke as a hero is that he is not a badass. He struggles, whines, etc, and is very relatable for it.

As much as I enjoyed Han in TFA, it felt like a theme park version. Like “hey it’s HAN SOLO, look at him go.” I’m glad RJ was the one to handle Luke, and that we were given something beyond the surface level of what we thought we wanted.

RogueLeader said:

snooker said:

Snooker, you’re a wonderful human being!

Those are cool ideas Anakin, but definitely would be near impossible to achieve. I think the best we can do is show it briefly, like Snooker’s test image.

Seconded.

RogueLeader said:

That would be great!! And I had a similar thought about the finale montage.

I had this idea of reusing the Endor shots, but have the Ewoks watch the Falcon flying overhead to establish Kef-Bir as Endor, because why make the gravesite of the Death Star II a different planet? And it would imply that the natives Jannah and the other Stormtroopers refused to kill were the Ewoks. Maybe the First Order were wanting to get revenge on the creatures that helped topple the Empire.

Nice! That’d allow using Coruscant instead for the montage without having to finesse the music much if at all.

Maybe if we could insert Palpatine gloating about how he can’t be killed. Use Snoke’s voice from TLJ interspersed throughout to imply Palpy likes speaking in his voice sporadically, then use his “I cannot be betrayed” monologue from TLJ.