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- The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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We’ll see how things go. I imagine an alternate audio track should be easy enough.
We’ll see how things go. I imagine an alternate audio track should be easy enough.
wakeupkeo, that’s an interesting idea. If one could buy that Palpatine is engaged in what he’s doing, maybe firing lightning all over, it could work. Seems like it’d be in exchange of the Jedi speaking and showing up, though, and we’ve got that covered.
I’m leaning away from adding music to the duel. The movie is so busy, maybe they were right not to add any. Or if there’s a killer track maybe I can do an alternate audio track. But in the context of the whole movie maybe it’s nice to kind of take a breath and just see them fight.
Movies Remastered, I’ve been burned out for a while. Thing is, I’m stubborn and have OCD-like tendencies in some areas. We’ll get this thing complete one baby step at a time. I’ve been thankful for the help over the years being able to complete projects and have them get to actually exist, so we’ll get there for this last one, too.
Episode IX
THE RISE OF SKYWALKER
Flames of rebellion burn across the galaxy. The tyrannical First Order has retaliated by attacking any planetary system that supports their enemy.
As Rey, sole heir to the Jedi, continues her training, General Leia Organa sends her brave agents across the stars to unite the disparate worlds in the name of Resistance.
Meanwhile, Supreme Leader Kylo Ren has traveled to Mustafar, chasing whispers of a hidden power that would allow him to destroy any threat to his rule…
Here’s a couple thoughts based on this wonderful clip LILLIAN02330 posted earlier: https://vimeo.com/421944019
Picture this:
Crawl
Pan down to TIEs approaching a destroyer (with some tiny specks beneath, subtly moving toward the planet
Aerial shot of a patterned lava flow, with a few troop carriers flying by, either above camera or very closeby underneath, overtaking the camera (could use the forest shot instead)
Troop carriers land, and troops emerge, heading into battle
Distant shot of a lava eruption with trees in the foreground
Kylo Ren is seen on a rampage, and scene goes on from there
Yes, very interesting…
TLJ - BATTLE OF MUSTAFAR (SFX ONLY)
https://vimeo.com/421944019
Extremely nice.
Thank you! I knew someone nailed it, thanks for that.
I can’t seem to find the post of a video someone did of moving Rey’s line “nothings impossible” to after Leia hands her the saber.
Anyone have that?
Life is just kicking my ass. I think next time I can sit down (or kneel 🙄) to edit, I’ll work on the civilian fleet arrival since that should be fun.
Yoda’s theme during the X-wing’s resurrection makes sense. It harkens back to Luke who didn’t think he could do it, which was where his head was at for most of the ST, and hits home how he’s grown and changed throughout this story.
The music that played as Luke revealed to Leia that they were family plays as Lando reaches out to serve as a father figure to Jannah, and he may very well be. This is a bit of shorthand, and is the only thing that tells the savvy viewer that he’s not just picking her up.
I like the music as Ben dies. It touches on the big theme of the movie on the soundtrack that strikes me as a combination of Kylo’s and Rey’s themes, which is nice. I don’t really want to shoehorn in a love theme between other characters into that moment.
JEDIT: forgot which thread I was in…
Nope!
Also, this project has essentially been abandoned.
That’s cool but I’m not pursuing that sort of thing for this project.
We’ve got a finite number of changes to bring about, remaining open to new ones. But once all loops are closed (changes implemented without any committed ones remaining), we close in on at least a V1 release.
Does anyone have any sound effects laying around that could depict bursting through the ice wall, maybe some shimmer or WOOoooosh of trailing off into hyperspace?
$8? Eeiish. I don’t know about that transition for right now but it’s unlikely I’ll get to give it much more attention for now.
While we’re discussing the Force Ghosts scene, I want to ask since this soundtrack addition absolutely makes me feel like a hyped little kid; Hal, what do you think of the following from the redux ideas thread?
a quick test
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1p-M_FZG9Srkvcze0R7u8GOmjr6CyRJU4
The music feels very “epic trailer” to me, and feels out of place within the movie itself. It gave me chills too! But it felt like a trailer video.
Plan A to try at some point is what was originally scored for Rey catching the saber in TFA.
Please do whenever you’re able, that might help.
Nah, let’s not open a can of worms. I like the four ghosts we see thanks to John.
I played with the audio for just a little bit this morning for the TIE escape, but haven’t found any better of a solution. Movies Remastered, how are you handling the scene? Leaving it as is, sans Klaud or something?
This is the sort of tricky audio thing that i wish I had a whole morning to work on. It’ll need it!
The shuttle makes the most sense and I liiiïke it. Please feel genuinely free to make your own edits using this one, even just overlaying this one shot.
The original issue was “Hey, regular TIEs like that don’t have hyperdrive!”
With Vader’s TIE it would be “Hey, Vader didn’t take his TIE to go to the DSII, where did that come from?”
With the shuttle it would be “Oh, I guess the DSII explosion was reeeally overpresented in ROTJ if there’s ships inside that still work!”
And that last one feels better than the original TIE because while you still have to accept that the DSII ‘sank’ more than blew up, at least the ship he used was about as plausible as the TIE but has hyperdrive.
I bet JJ would’ve used Vader’s TIE if even he thought he could get away with it.
Well what’s the TIE convey? That he used a bad guy ship to fly out of his own bad guy persona’s gravesite? Or that it pairs with its good counterpart (the X-wing)?
Vader’s TIE says he is reclaiming something of Vader’s to put to good use, similarly to Anakin’s saber a little later.
The shuttle is just plausible, and has hyperdrive that a TIE like that wouldn’t. It makes sense for that setting. And in the shot it contrasts with the small X-wing like he had to hijack a bus or something to get there.
The insufferable nerd in me insists the shuttle is the better choice, as using Vader’s TIE trades one issue for another and grabs your attention to make you wonder how likely it would be for Vader’s TIE to even be there rather than whispering subtly about regular TIEs not being able to fly through hyperspace.
It wasn’t evening-me’s fault the dog ran off and go run over, it was afternoon-me’s fault for leaving the gate open. What was I supposed to do when walking into a situation like that fresh?
Well that’s good, I guess. I wish I could make that last note of triumph after the ice wall hold a bit longer, as would’ve been the case if that was the scene’s end. The TIE sound starts to build before it crosses over, and it abruptly loses the sort of rumble effect the foley had.
I feel a little more context about what’s happening in this world when picking up the story after 30 years, and after a trilogy set in the past that gave us a great deal of context, would have gone a long way.
You remember that episode of Star Trek where Kirk was split into a good half and an evil half?
I’m the half that was benevolent but indecisive. Since there’s been so much interest and things done, I guess I gotta be directive.
I like both of those options a lot. The Vader TIE says sometime but doesn’t make any sense, whereas the shuttle is less meaningful but goes further to reducing the “not making sense” aspect of the original shot. The original TIE wasn’t really meaningful anyway, they just showed us something common that Kylo found that was flyable.
Does anyone have a working link to poppasketti’s fun TIE replacements? I’d like to see them.
The audio feels pretty ugly to me; are you guys listening with earphones?
Does anyone have any sound effects laying around that could depict bursting through the ice wall, maybe some shimmer or WOOoooosh of trailing off into hyperspace? If foley can be identified the music wouldn’t be as problematic. (This is the kind of thing I’d spend an hour doing myself if I were able. Getting audio to feel right really does take patience. I may be able to at some point but I toss out my thought process in case anyone does come across something suitable.)
And kewlfish, it’s good to have you here! It’s a weird, arguably stupid thing we do around here but we… we like it. At least the 9000 saga will go out on a high note. And then I can get stabbed by Vader.
LAAAAAUUNCH
After TFA set the tone by drop kicking world building, the best the next movie could’ve done is split the difference.