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- The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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The last one of those works really well, good improvement. Thank you!
The last one of those works really well, good improvement. Thank you!
So I recommend either trying to use a different shot or just straight up using Starlight footage since it’s a vision anyway 😉
Of course, silly me. 😃
Here’s an attempt at extending the vision sequence, using material that was already part of the ‘Rey Nobody’ version. While I do still want to get a glimpse of Ochi’s ship, the changes we have been talking about with Rey feeling undeserving of Leia’s express sense of familial connection make it more important to establish this. So not only does she see herself on the Sith throne, she is haunted by past brushes with darkness. (The ambient audio for the added parts is a little janky, pulling from the TFA vision sequence and the TLJ scene where Luke looks into Kylo Ren’s mind in a flashback.)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CiZMcU9NaKbyv2mMzegL1bgnkSqFlHRN/view?usp=share_link
EDIT: Also, so I don’t forget, I still need a replacement for “He’s too dangerous” but with a somewhat fast delivery.
This is all straying pretty far from the story as we have it, and I’d rather keep Ascendant pretty close to what we have and not introduce sweeping changes to Palpatine’s plan. I’m not convinced introducing the idea that he wanted to have them fight in order to claim the victor enhances anything here.
Hmm, I’m still leery of this, as what’s there makes sense the way it is. But I’m open to see what come. We’re introducing potential weak points here.
As it stands in V3, Palpatine seems to have wanted Rey dead from day one, and is working Kylo into killing her and then possessing him, up to the point where he is redeemed. Then since Rey showed up he’s gonna try for her. To me this is simple enough and I think that your idea wouldn’t really improve it and would introduce many potentially awkward audio edits.
Test clip for V8. AI voice by Jar Jar Bricks:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1C18E_nRAif_ae-SjLhTOVxbrQLiWEMd7/view?usp=share_link
Yeah, but it shouldn’t be revelatory or shocking to her or to us that she would have struggled with her family heritage.
Also, here’s the ancient text line in context. Sounds pretty good! https://drive.google.com/file/d/1au_fzjCMYIkOholtONUhSEokGnu2hqJX/view?usp=share_link
If you pursued that idea, the natural place to inject it would be as Luke talks with Rey fireside. That said, I can’t say I love the idea or want to pursue it here. Too much crammed in, raises many questions.
Here’s the current lines in context, and it’s hard to imagine them being improved much! I EQ’d Luke’s line “she surrendered her saber to me…” to reduce the low frequencies just slightly, and had that effect gradually wear off as he progresses through the line.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cqFyhWmFxTtW8yd93V6kJt02CFMkbnp3/view?usp=share_link
Nah, it’s the perfect length as-is. Too long would feel conspicuous.
Awesome, RL! I still need to get the line to work after the sandworm to correspond. It’s good that Rey sounds almost Padme-level dry monotone at times because her AI voice is very flexible.
As stated, AI opens many doors but I do want to keep it to a minimum, or at least limited to things that… make sense and are good ideas? Lol
I feel you on that one, better to look at particular trees in the forest I feel like.
And oh jeez, sorry I skipped right by Nev’s awesome drawing.
Also, can the Poe line be shortened to just read “each ship [has been] modified with delreadnaught laser cannons”?
I wonder how they’d know it was a celebrity? “Oh this is my uncle.”
Also on my list is to try extending the vision Rey has while training to include the stuff in the ‘Rey Nobody’ version of signs of darkness from prior movies. And maybe toss in “You have no place in this story.”
Without having access to headphones at the moment, I agree that does sound pretty darn good. Thank you so much for taking the time to run that through so many permutations, man.
JJB, I will play with the ancient texts line when I have a little more time. The others were a simpler task to drop lines in without re-editing sequences. Only had about 30 minutes to work with, lol.
I know there are tutorials out there about how to make a voice recording, sound deeper, so I should play around with that next time I can.
Folder now contains more test clips: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1LPAnhZcKFOIU7TZN4e1KoBKk0B78A35Q?usp=share_link
That’s all I could steal myself away for right now!
It’s a pretty good take, really. Just has that unavoidable cruft. Wouldn’t hurt to try it.
The “rotting clone” and “final lesson” lines both sound good in context.
These AI lines are great, but they do still have that AI cruft when you give them attention with headphones. Still best to be avoided unless necessary. I can tell a difference in the bass/depth when listening on earphones.
RL, that is without any color correction, so that should be the best to work from.
The “she was quick to learn in our training” sounds perfect. The longer line about diplomacy is not 100% seamless when baked in and having another real Hamill line right afterward, but sounds very good.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1LPAnhZcKFOIU7TZN4e1KoBKk0B78A35Q?usp=share_link
Here is the shot of Rey reading the texts.
Poe’s lines during the briefing don’t blend in seamlessly. And his line about the stockpile should be shorter, as there is barely enough time to have him speak. Try simply “an enormous stockpile of star destroyers from the old Empire.” You can see in this folder how it sounds in context.
Leia’s line “he’s too dangerous” needs to be faster, as it takes too long for her to say. The clip used in V3 has her speak more briskly. But the lines about “family’s saber” and “you are family” sound perfect.
The lines about lightspeed clipping/whipping/slipping/tripping would need to be generated as entire lines rather than sentence-mixed in. At present with what I have so far, the V3 lines about lightspeed ramming are the only viable.
The line about the ancient texts after the sandworm either wouldn’t be worth it, having to truncate her existing line, or it’ll take more creativity than I have time for at the moment.
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Hehe, it’s more like I’m trying to be strict with myself.
Like “I’m gonna eat healthy, here’s a carrot.”
“Oh look at me, a bacon-filled doughnut!”
“…well, I’ll diet tomorrow!”
Nah, I think the shorter version from that clip is perfect.
RL, unless someone beats me to it I’ll send you a ProRes clip of the shot of the Jedi texts when I can.
It’s not necessary but I’m okay with it. After all, as others have pointed out, we see baby Yoda use it too.