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#1364834
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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I think I prefer the first way you had it, with the theme coming in slowly before we hear the main part as we cut to Rey and Kylo. I then added the first part of the music afterward to bridge to when the existing music comes in the scene. I do plan to turn the volume up, especially toward the end.

And that’s great, kewlfish! I’ll add them to the timeline once you’re happy with the crackle across the whole movie.

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#1364777
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Well, I finished laying down crackly audio for the saber across the film. Wasn’t difficult, as the crackle doesn’t need to be particularly audible most of the time. Usually the existing audio rising and falling in volume was enough to let the effect present itself as needed. I adjusted volume based on the saber’s proximity to camera and left to right throughout, at least roughly. Again, it’s a subtle enough effect that precision would be overkill much of the time. I used the presence of the saber hum as a guideline; if you can hear one you should hear the other.

Sounds like kewlfish is moving at a pretty good pace with the visuals. That’s still really impressive.

It may end up being jonh that we wait on, and that’s totally understandable.

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#1364695
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Well, if another look can make it a little better, great, but I agree it is fine as is.

Burbin is making Spanish subtitles for TROS! He actually was kind enough to take the brunt of doing the English, and possibly French, subtitles as well which will certainly help get this project along to the end. He actually even spruced up the existing prequel edits’ Spanish subtitles, also, which I will put on the Google Drive when finished. (I don’t want to take the edits down, mux the subtitles in, and reupload, though, because they’d be incompatible with the torrents after that point.)

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#1364683
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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I’ve been thinking about the way the music comes in at the very end of the movie, leading into the credits. I can’t fade it in very elegantly because it comes right on the heel of a loud final note of the Resistance theme.

Anyone have or can contrive a light note that can be brought in first and give way to the existing music? The Force theme sometimes has one more note than what is currently there to lead into it.

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#1364550
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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And just a note about the crawl: I know the opening crawl is going to be a sticky subject, with almost anyone on planet Earth able to compose one superior to the one in the theatrical TROS.

I like the symmetry of having one film per trilogy with no ALL CAPS WORDS, and appreciate namedropping Mustafar. It’s either a planet that means something to the reader, or serves as worldbuilding. Either way, I like the significance of opening on that particular planet, but the film itself didn’t give us any real indication that it had.

In the Hal9000 presentation of the overall saga, over half of the films have crawls either written or compiled by me. That’s a little weird to think about. This is the only one for which I felt no obligation to maintain connection to the original. TROS has the worst crawl out of the nine, hands down. I know this crawl won’t knock it out of the park for everyone, but I do appreciate the feedback to help me make sure it’s what I want to use.

You should see some of my professional writing; I can be pedantic, that’s for sure.

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#1364453
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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I like that new Naboo clip, and it does seem to cohere better than the first round. I agree that perhaps the explosion(s) could be slowed down for scale.

The crawl doesn’t need capital letters. In the OT, the Death Star is capitalized in ANH, and not in the other two. I don’t think the same words are ever capitalized twice until we get to TLJ. To capitalize the same two words/terms a third time in a row feels very unnecessary to me.

And I think it’s fine to name drop Mustafar, as it lets us see that the two Wayfinder were in possession of the two Sith. If the name doesn’t mean anything to the viewer, that’s fine. It’s just the first spot we see I. Kylo’s search. It would’ve helped first time viewer ‘me’ take in that scene.

The crawls are a place for occasional high, formal constructions. I use “disparate” to tie into the idea that the FO is making people feel disconnected and alone. Perhaps it feels more at home in the older films’ crawls, but I am okay with being a touch formal.

You’re right that Palpatine’s lip movement doesn’t look exactly like he’s saying “in me.” If anyone has the ability to correct that visually, I’d welcome it! Not sure how that’d be done, though.

Some of the Leia footage is weird as they try to weave things into what they had to work with. But I don’t think cutting it down would help, since that’s the route they went and there’s already very little of it. I’ll look at those other two moments and see if it makes sense to trim them.

I’ll look at the Endor shot and try to match the following footage, also.

It’d be very difficult to remove the tracked music on the DSII. And if I did, I’d want to leave it out rather than replace it with a higher quality version of itself.

Yeah I know there’s a lot of interest in more DOTF, but that’ll have to be done by you all post-release. I’ll include a lossless export of the audio for the affected sequence, and I’m sure I’ll see an alternate track put out for people to mux in.

I will try that with the medal!

The sith people are heard chanting elsewhere and don’t sound like the tracked music that would need to be implemented to get them to sing DOTF. Plus the music will have already been alluded to earlier. If someone can find a rendition of the opening of DOTF without instrumentation that sounds like it really is coming from that group of people and sounds like how they sound throughout, okay, but it seems unlikely.

The civilian fleet is you all, silly!

Yoda’s theme may feel odd but it’d be hard to change, and sometimes the music needs to feel right even if the motif doesn’t make logical sense.

You are right that the ending musical fade in is very delicate. It immediately followed an unheard blast of sound. If there’s any audio wizard who can extend those notes or somehow contrive them in order to come in better that’d be wonderful. It’s as good as I am able to get it with my skill level, though.

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#1364369
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Sorry, yeah, I didn’t have time to respond when I saw it and then I forgot!

I had blocked up that scene at some point before and I don’t remember exactly how it went. But I feel like it was better that way and didn’t leave any lose ends. (The ending scene)

The hangar scene doesn’t feel right to me, as theres a dramatic reveal that Palpatine tried to kill her because of… something he didn’t know.

Sorry, I know that’s kind of negative and vague for right now.

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#1364274
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Cinefy, that music feels appropriate for the moment and works well. However, I think it’s a misstep to use Kylo’s theme to speak about the Final Order, especially after his turning point toward the light.

And I can certainly see about increasing the volume a little on the DOTF moment.

Oh, Kijimi… ugh. Personally I like things this way. We get it: a shit-ton of star destroyers. I really like not having to go along with another Death Star destroying a planet. The Sith people have modified old destroyers stashed there from the days of the Empire, at least that’d be the only sane thing to infer from this version of the movie.

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#1364222
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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darkshadowspike said:

I’m a little disappointed in how subttle Duel of The Fates was in the death star fight in workprint 4, is the final duel in star wars and the soundtrack is almost none existing and the little there is, is very subtles and forgettable 😕

I get the intent of focusing in the sounds of the duel and enviroment and being a silent duel, but i think it feels very lacking.

Why not try something like this ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjMVwE-d4yU Rey V kylo, with Battle of Heroes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulIXYyPqFOg Rey V kylo, with Duel of fates

the reason that i don’t think that i could edit the audio myself once v1 realeases is that i’m afraid to lose the crackling sound of Rey lightsaber from the audio of ascendant

We’ve been over this a number of times. I won’t use tracked music for this purpose from the saga films, and I think the Solo option allows for it to happen at all. I always release lossless audio exports of my projects and I could include that scene without the added Solo music for you if you’d like. May just have to remind me, but that should be possible even after I pack everything away at some point.

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#1364159
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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R2’s physics in ROTS is cartoony to me mostly because it is just so contrary to how we see R2 look and behave in all the rest of SW.

I’d still like to see a version of the scene, with Obi-Wan tossing the comlink at R2 only for it to realistically hit his dome sharply and clatter to the ground. As if someone threw a handheld phone at a metal refrigerator.