Super fast.
Thanks, Muffy, for reminding me. It was a flashback of Han that filled in the spot there, I couldn’t remember. And that outdoor viewing must’ve been fun.
And I don’t think that music would work; it’s pretty obviously tracked reused music to me. I think that moment is fine as it is; it’s really not necessary to add music.
Right, fingering was all they got to. I was just kidding about that!
until Reylo is consummated.
We didn’t quite get there, either.
I’ll remove the ticking clock line!
Jonh, great to hear! I’m glad you’re back in business tearing up the world, and will be glad to receive your finished work whenever you have it ready.
And that’s some good feedback about the Naboo shot. I know snooker wants it to look like it was always like that, and those are some pointers I never would’ve noticed. (But your brain did?) And of course I think snooker for the effort and wizardry, too, as that is such a wonderful shot to have.
Snooker had just send me a revised clip that she feels blends in better to the surrounding footage. I can’t post a clip right at the moment, but it looks less flickers and quick, like there’s a larger scale to it.
I suppose the alternative would be to ditch the destroyer, and add gungans chasing a shrieking stormtrooper across the foreground.
Yeah. Can’t help but agree.
And with Leia, at least it’s clear she feels fear that she had the capacity to kill Kylo.
I hadn’t considered it like that but you’re right: the rush is the logistics of the fleet taking off. My only concern is that this may not be clear until late in the film. There are a few times during the adventure when characters say “We don’t have time to X.”
And that’s an interesting read on the Leia death, with Rey feeling responsible for it. That makes sense! I’ll have to play with the scene, though, unless there’s a mock-up out there I may just not be remembering right now. If Rey stabbing Kylo is followed by Rey dropping headphones, there’d be a lot to cram in from Leia before seeing her give out altogether.
I think Rian interpreted Luke in about the only way he could given TFA’s setup. At least the best way one could if they put more than 45 seconds of concerted effort toward.
If someone can come up with an alternative line that still does the trick, I’m open to it!
I don’t mind spreading the word, but it can easily feel tacky and I’ve never felt it appealing to actually do. And for what? I don’t make anything on this, not even any YouTube clips to even slightly monetize. I just like the idea of people who like this sort of thing stumbling onto the finished product and getting to have Christmas.
I think I prefer the first way you had it, with the theme coming in slowly before we hear the main part as we cut to Rey and Kylo. I then added the first part of the music afterward to bridge to when the existing music comes in the scene. I do plan to turn the volume up, especially toward the end.
And that’s great, kewlfish! I’ll add them to the timeline once you’re happy with the crackle across the whole movie.
Well, I finished laying down crackly audio for the saber across the film. Wasn’t difficult, as the crackle doesn’t need to be particularly audible most of the time. Usually the existing audio rising and falling in volume was enough to let the effect present itself as needed. I adjusted volume based on the saber’s proximity to camera and left to right throughout, at least roughly. Again, it’s a subtle enough effect that precision would be overkill much of the time. I used the presence of the saber hum as a guideline; if you can hear one you should hear the other.
Sounds like kewlfish is moving at a pretty good pace with the visuals. That’s still really impressive.
It may end up being jonh that we wait on, and that’s totally understandable.
Cool!
Even Star Wars one day will be gone without a trace for whatever intelligent life will inhabit or come across the planet.
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Well, if another look can make it a little better, great, but I agree it is fine as is.
Burbin is making Spanish subtitles for TROS! He actually was kind enough to take the brunt of doing the English, and possibly French, subtitles as well which will certainly help get this project along to the end. He actually even spruced up the existing prequel edits’ Spanish subtitles, also, which I will put on the Google Drive when finished. (I don’t want to take the edits down, mux the subtitles in, and reupload, though, because they’d be incompatible with the torrents after that point.)
Or you haven’t agonized over making it sound good! lol
But yeah, that’s right. Maybe even a half second of that first note from elsewhere could sound all right. I have no idea; maybe I’ll just need to give it a shot when I can.
I’ve been thinking about the way the music comes in at the very end of the movie, leading into the credits. I can’t fade it in very elegantly because it comes right on the heel of a loud final note of the Resistance theme.
Anyone have or can contrive a light note that can be brought in first and give way to the existing music? The Force theme sometimes has one more note than what is currently there to lead into it.
Right. There’d be no real benefit to adjusting by a single frame 85% of the way into the movie.
I’m looking forward to this one:
Interesting channel. While my prequel edits will be my go-to versions, the textual lineage keeps on propagating. Edits of those movies will never, ever end.
Nothing to worry about; and I appreciate that feedback!
Hey, I guess you can always modify the crawl in your subtitles!
And just a note about the crawl: I know the opening crawl is going to be a sticky subject, with almost anyone on planet Earth able to compose one superior to the one in the theatrical TROS.
I like the symmetry of having one film per trilogy with no ALL CAPS WORDS, and appreciate namedropping Mustafar. It’s either a planet that means something to the reader, or serves as worldbuilding. Either way, I like the significance of opening on that particular planet, but the film itself didn’t give us any real indication that it had.
In the Hal9000 presentation of the overall saga, over half of the films have crawls either written or compiled by me. That’s a little weird to think about. This is the only one for which I felt no obligation to maintain connection to the original. TROS has the worst crawl out of the nine, hands down. I know this crawl won’t knock it out of the park for everyone, but I do appreciate the feedback to help me make sure it’s what I want to use.
You should see some of my professional writing; I can be pedantic, that’s for sure.
I’d sure hope so!
I like that new Naboo clip, and it does seem to cohere better than the first round. I agree that perhaps the explosion(s) could be slowed down for scale.
The crawl doesn’t need capital letters. In the OT, the Death Star is capitalized in ANH, and not in the other two. I don’t think the same words are ever capitalized twice until we get to TLJ. To capitalize the same two words/terms a third time in a row feels very unnecessary to me.
And I think it’s fine to name drop Mustafar, as it lets us see that the two Wayfinder were in possession of the two Sith. If the name doesn’t mean anything to the viewer, that’s fine. It’s just the first spot we see I. Kylo’s search. It would’ve helped first time viewer ‘me’ take in that scene.
The crawls are a place for occasional high, formal constructions. I use “disparate” to tie into the idea that the FO is making people feel disconnected and alone. Perhaps it feels more at home in the older films’ crawls, but I am okay with being a touch formal.
You’re right that Palpatine’s lip movement doesn’t look exactly like he’s saying “in me.” If anyone has the ability to correct that visually, I’d welcome it! Not sure how that’d be done, though.
Some of the Leia footage is weird as they try to weave things into what they had to work with. But I don’t think cutting it down would help, since that’s the route they went and there’s already very little of it. I’ll look at those other two moments and see if it makes sense to trim them.
I’ll look at the Endor shot and try to match the following footage, also.
It’d be very difficult to remove the tracked music on the DSII. And if I did, I’d want to leave it out rather than replace it with a higher quality version of itself.
Yeah I know there’s a lot of interest in more DOTF, but that’ll have to be done by you all post-release. I’ll include a lossless export of the audio for the affected sequence, and I’m sure I’ll see an alternate track put out for people to mux in.
I will try that with the medal!
The sith people are heard chanting elsewhere and don’t sound like the tracked music that would need to be implemented to get them to sing DOTF. Plus the music will have already been alluded to earlier. If someone can find a rendition of the opening of DOTF without instrumentation that sounds like it really is coming from that group of people and sounds like how they sound throughout, okay, but it seems unlikely.
The civilian fleet is you all, silly!
Yoda’s theme may feel odd but it’d be hard to change, and sometimes the music needs to feel right even if the motif doesn’t make logical sense.
You are right that the ending musical fade in is very delicate. It immediately followed an unheard blast of sound. If there’s any audio wizard who can extend those notes or somehow contrive them in order to come in better that’d be wonderful. It’s as good as I am able to get it with my skill level, though.
Too bad I don’t read comics, or I’d have to read Dark Empire just to get insight into TROS.