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I don’t know Harry Potter, but I guess so.

I just looked into the “”official”” explanation for Snoke, and I guess he is supposed to be his own separate, real person. Removing the vat of pickled Snokes helps make this interpretation more plausible than the theatrical. And I guess Snoke knew they were a dyad but never told Palpatine.

So, eh, I’m fine with leaving this aspect alone other than removing the Snoke vat. Make of it what you will.

I don’t really want to change this about the original. My understanding from TROS is that Snoke was a meat puppet, possibly literally housing Palpatine’s spirit before he went into a clone body sometime between TLJ and TROS. One thing about this that gives me pause is that Snoke seemed to recognize that Rey and Ben are linked. But I guess them being a dyad is some weird technicality aside from this.

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I don’t remember whose recordings each was, but as it stands here’s what I’ve implemented:

As Chewie runs off on Pasaana, two KoR say, “Solo’s Wookiee,” and “I get his teeth.” The latter turns his head and it feels like it always was that way.

On Kijimi, the KoR step into frame and the apparent leader says, “Palpatine wants the girl alive. Kill the rest.”

On Exegol, as the KoR step out from around the corner to confront Ben, two say, “Well look who finally made it,” and “Traitor!” The latter is an obvious mirror to Kylo in TFA, highlighting his transformation.

Later, when he pulls the lightsaber out of his ass, a KoR says, “What? How?” And then they all get chopped up, with a few vocalizations that have always been there.

I don’t think these are intrusive, and are 4 out of 6 possible moments for KoR dialogue. (Excluded are “may our bond never again be shattered” during the helmet reforging, and “You betray us for a scavenger” between the other two Exegol lines.)

It almost sounds like a computer voice. In any event, I think I’ll stick with the project results.

No, because there were two lightsabers being used.

Lol, I know, right?

I don’t think so, no.

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I’m considering it, if I have time to get it right! And if it ends up looking right. Lol

And I probably won’t get down to the level of splicing takes together. There’ll only be a few lines used and they’re fine for what they are. And it’s fun to include the results of that project.

I played with them just a little tonight. I don’t think it’d be great to add a line during the mask reforging scene because it distracts from Kylo after his vision.

I like the pasaana lines, and Kijimi’s. I’ve only messed with the first of the three Exegol lines so far but I think they work. I may choose to skip the second of the three. Not sure yet!

Octorox said:

I like it how it is in the workprint. It clearly plays like there was a longer message and we’re just hearing the tail end of it. I don’t think adding more of the message would lead to any sort of substantial improvement.

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Yeah, it’s pretty choppy as he reduced spacing between sentences. And he used reaction shots that’ll be needed later in the scene. I’d say it’s either what’s in the workprint, which is still what seems best to me, or my recent clip that wedges in another phrase but gets rid of the nice synchronicity of Poe’s exasperation with the message’s conclusion.

Pretty cool!

Yeah, we’ve been over that, too. The ghouls line stays.

Hmmm, for the 3PO/trooper moment… I like what RogueLeader came up with. But I don’t have anything else clever in mind.

3PO: “excuse me, might you direct us to the—“

Trooper: “_____”

3PO: continues a second

Trooper: “_____”

Jarbear, thanks for the additional mockup. I do still think and feel that what’s there at present is the best option. It seems cleaner, though still not ideal. I don’t think it’d be a problem for anyone who didn’t know there was more scene there originally, which is the audience that matters. I know this one’s not making everybody happy!

And I will try to increase the grey-ness of Exogol a bit more and make sure it doesn’t bleed unhelpfully into anything else. (Perhaps 66% rather than 50%.)

It’s encouraging that the feedback has been relegated to a few things, some of which I have actually changed.

So… do people prefer Palpatine’s message here to what’s in the workprint? We get one additional line, but lose the impact of the concluding static immediately preceding the crowd gasping and clamoring. Personally, I prefer what’s currently in the workprint. https://vimeo.com/449495094

Lol, maybe he just randomly says “always.”

And Anakin as a ghost at the end would indeed feel extremely fan edit-y. Ben makes sense and belongs there, but Anakin doesn’t.

It’s a tight fit in the message scene so I was t able to really fit in any other combination of lines. I’ll try again but I think it’s just important to imply they listened to something from Palpatine.

Anakin won’t appear at the end. It would not feel right, and jonh plans fo work on this when he is able, possibly next month.

I will knock off part two of DOTF.

I look forward to adding KoR dialogue. Axlanian, do you also have any alternate dialogue for the moment with Threepio and the stormtroopers?

Kyle Ren and Palpatine have a very Sith-like understanding, each needing the other for something but willing to dispose of the other when convenient. Kylo’s question “what could you give me” is in response to “I will give you so much more,” as in the original.

Finn’s line from the briefing doesn’t work when juxtaposed with his line in the landing scene. The walking on leaves foley works okay, but it’s practically subliminal in order to blend in right. It doesn’t hurt by being there, but it only makes it better to know it’s there, as it can’t jump out at you.

I played with the Palpatine message, but I think it’s very effective to have the message end in static as Poe looks down and hearing everyone react audibly, moreso than any particular contents of the speech. So, I think what is in the workprint is as good as that’s going to get.

1080p and below. I can’t do 4K, for numerous technical reasons.

Cinefy said:

New work print has an extra DOTF after Rey jumps, it seems very out of place in-terms of timing.
Also camera movement feels very missing from Naboo shot,

Anyone else think so about the DOTF moment? I thought it was a good way to just gently bridge to the existing score. It could be knocked off, though, if I’m the odd one out.

And I suppose the Naboo shot could be a little more dynamic. Skenera, do you think you could add a little more camera movement? if not, I could just with keyframes.

Yes, because it was from the film prior and is tied to that moment, whereas Burning Homestead is a callback to an analogous moment which itself is no longer anchored to a specific moment. Not saying it’s logical anyway.

Here, compare this to what’s in the workprint for the message moment: https://vimeo.com/449495094

Broom Kid, yeah sorry I didn’t respond. It’s been a frenzy this week. I personally would find the repeat of TLJ music from the climax to be more distracting. I still feel Burning Homestead is more appropriately powerful and fitting here. I do appreciate the R&D on an alternative, though.

And I can play with alternative arrangements of the Palpy message. I like having them react to the message ending, but having it extend longer may be good. I’ll try it out when I can.

It just doesn’t seem to flow right. It wouldn’t be a good match cut beyond fan editing standards, I don’t think. 😦