Hal 9000

ziggyonice said:

Great work on this, Hal.

Watched workprint 6.1. It looks really good, and my feedback is minimal.

• For the edit in the desert scene, the cut at 23:40 is pretty obvious. I suggest using the clip at 24:02 and placing it at 23:40 as a break, THEN cut to them running.

I can try that.

• Would you consider putting in a couple establishing shots of Ahch-To at 1:26:28? It’s such a hard cut here and it’s our first time seeing the island in this movie, and doesn’t give much context. Is there a shot or two from TFA or TLJ that could flesh out this sequence a little more? In my dreams, I’d love to see a wipe to seeing Ren’s TIE fighter fly toward the planet, and THEN establishing shot of the island, and THEN Rey burning the TIE.

As it is I stuck with the original music and used the corresponding (but different) moment in the OST for the original establishing shot used later. I like that the new shot isn’t a repeat of a shot from before, but I do agree it’s one of many abrupt cuts in the movie as it was.

• In Kylo Ren’s mask montage, Rey says, “You’re a creature in a mask” at 18:08. But it’s hard to hear over the music. It’s an important line. Could it be moved just a second or two later so it is more audible?

If DominicCobb could make that change I’ll use it. I have the entire scene as a single clip so I couldn’t modify it. I could probably find which channels the line is in, and raise the volume slightly for that line.

• I’m a big fan of the Knights of Ren dialogue. I do think you should consider adding one of the lines in the helmet rebuilding scene, but that’s just my opinion.

I really think a subtle approach to their added voices works better in the final film, but I also like all their added lines in the demo reel.

If you’re reading, Burbin, the first chance idea would only affect sync for two or three subtitled lines. So if you sync them to the current workprint, I can easily just readjust those couple lines once you get me the subtitle files.

What I mean is that the audio needed for that moment will not conform to the existing video track, requiring me to essentially manually replace each clip in the TFA timeline and do more than it’s worth. And it would all be to do something to actively detract from that moment.

I agree with you, which is why I tried it. It didn’t work very well and it would require me to do a lot of work to rebuild TFA’s video stream because doing it at all requires adjusting sync. Even so, the moment felt very underwhelming.

I agree, but there hasn’t been anything else to fit in adequately in practice.

Any of you guys who reported low volume with the latest workprint, was it while viewing it in the browser or after downloading the file?

Thanks! I’m hoping to release a V1 soon.

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EDIT: Nevermind, lol

Tagline: Every saga has an end…
 
Synopsis: Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker gets an overhaul to serve as a conclusion to the Star Wars saga. Pacing, character journeys, and story continuity are improved via an unprecedented fan editing collaboration. A layer of polish and care applied to a relentlessly fast-paced film. Subtle character tweaks. And a few new surprises.

Running time is 138 minutes. Same “features” as TLJ, but there should be Spanish subtitles as well.

Well, I didn’t know there’d be edits of 8 and 9 when I named TFA:R. I don’t want to change it now; it’s done.

And I’ll get you the details on the cover artwork tonight when I can sit down with it. Thanks again.

Yes, thank you, that’s it.

Movies Remastered, would you be able to finish that by doing the DVD and BR cover variants?

TLJ for reference: https://images.fanedit.org/fanedits_coverart/hal9000/tlj_legendary/tlj_legendary_coverart.rar

https://images.fanedit.org/fanedits_coverart/hal9000/tlj_legendary/tlj_legendary_coverart.rar

NeverarGreat said:

TFA: “Do you mind?” Luke asks. “I was just about to…” He gestures to the cliff. “Oh right.” Rey says, embarrassed and dropping the saber back to her side. “Maybe come back in a minute?” Rey nods, turning to go. “I’ll be back in a bit.” She looks around. “Looks like the sun’s coming out.”

The level of pedantry of that last sentence is perfect.

That’s… weird. Not sure about that one.

And hey, if you’d like to make more subtitles for other languages, feel free! Once Burbin is done I’m sure he’ll let me know and can make them available for that.

I think it’s about time to finish up with cover artwork. I remember seeing awesome cover artwork months ago, but I think it still needed some of the details to be filled in with text. If we can get that completed and get that to me, it’ll be one less obstacle to getting V1 out in the near future.

Burbin is working on subtitles in, I believe, English, French, and Spanish. I’ll get chapter stops generated, and try to record a commentary track (probably split across two sittings after everyone else goes to bed).

Copy the workprint to your own Google Drive, and then copy it again within your Drive. That should be enough to fool it into bypassing the limits.

And thanks; I like Kerr’s LOTR edits a great deal. 😃

That’s all right, but let’s curb Hobbit talk here. I don’t think I’d like to do a 2-film version since there’s no good footage to contrive a satisfying ending to film 1 without picking one of the first two films’ endings.

Yeah I had to fade the initial audio out quickly without compromising the TIE sounds too much. Perhaps having some tie sounds carry over slightly to the cockpit shot may help, too.

Here’s another pass at that scene. I just added some music from earlier in the scene, since sadly that sequence is not featured in the OST. It’s not a great fit, but hopefully this can smooth out the dropoff in music.

https://vimeo.com/470029293

I’ve been thinking of doing that. The problem is that I just don’t have much I can identify to improve upon the Maple Films version!

Good to hear! You’re the man.

Can’t help but agree; I’ll see how it sounds with just “what?” and nothing more.

And I gotta say: I am genuinely surprised by how much BETTER this newer computer performs than either of my previous two Macs. It’s only 3 years newer, but MAN. Even booting into my old hard drive to run Sierra, things are dramatically more fluid. I can actually… use FCP7 and FCPX like a human being. Like, it actually… plays things back in a way that lets me see and hear what’s happening.

It honestly makes me want to find some other fan edit project to work on now!

Thanks, Muffy! Very glad you enjoyed it. I don’t know what I’ll say during a commentary; my life hasn’t afforded me as much time to ruminate on this film compared to the others but I guess I gotta do it.

PM sent, Artan42.

I would have liked for Ep9 to follow TLJ’s lead in Rey’s identity as she would forge ahead with building herself up as the heir to the Jedi. However, if they want to have her struggle with inner darkness, I think TROS on its own as a film benefits more from having a Palpatine lineage than what it would be if we removed it via fan editing.

Arguably, though, I took the opposite approach to handling ROTS by undercutting a dramatic punch for continuity with ROTJ. But even then there are both versions available.

I like the “what? how?” moment personally, and it was one of the choices in the voice pack. I thought it was less on the nose than “oh, that’s not fair.” I think it’s good to have the KoR say something on Exegol because that’s the only time in the movie that we hear the vocalizations that axlanian and krausfadr worked to match (as they get beaten).

That’s the KoR getting beaten, not axlanian and krausfadr. I’m pretty sure they weren’t under any duress while working on that.

The official explanation doesn’t make that better, because the Force skipped a generation or something. For just the movies, though, sure.

Has anyone put together a list of scenes or moments that would need to be addressed for a Rey Nobody edit?

Well, once I have the components needed to complete a ‘Rey Nobody’ version I will stitch them in and release it. But the process doesn’t seem to be complete yet.

The KoR voice project and downloads can be found here: https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/For-TRoS-Edits-Dialogue-for-the-Knights-of-Ren-Come-help-Released/id/75572