Hal 9000

Yes, could a blue be applied or something to the added light?

And this is just to test placement; I was playing with overlaying the original shot to try to reduce the banding I was getting. And I’m going to have to reapply the LUTs again once the editing for V2 is done because of the weird workflow I have. So nothing to worry about there; it’ll be the same in the final product.

And yes, removing that Finn line was easy. I shortened the shot of Poe just a little so it doesn’t feel like a pause.

Mildly-yellow said:

In all honesty I think adding in the medal is unnecessary. I think having the shot on Ben not cut is a more emotionally resonant, him realizing his mother I find more compelling. If it was me I wouldn’t worry about the medal.

It’s a little thing but I feel it’d be good to do unless it causes a problem, as it ties Leia into the Han scene more closely, helps you to notice the one shot the medal was present in that scene, and makes Chewie receiving it not come out of nowhere.

That said, there is severe color banding present in the right side of the frame, especially when compressed while exporting from my NLE. Sherlockpotter, I don’t know how you applied the effect to the shot, but I don’t suppose there would be a way to export ONLY the added stuff and not the shot itself? Or, is there a way to export in a higher quality than the mp4 wrapper you used?

Here’s what I’m leaning toward as far as placement: https://vimeo.com/515582857

Dominic was working on that. Last I recall it wasn’t yet totally seamless. I’m okay with simply “Ben,” but would be open to other options as long as they end up feeling (in that totally subjective way) right for the moment once implemented.

Also, if MR or anyone else does want to depict Rey’s saber crapping out at the end of that duel, I would happily use it!

Jar Jar Bricks, I couldn’t do any better than you did with sequencing removing the “grandchild to come home” bit. I got the audio to sound fluid and inconspicuous, but it’s the same sequencing. Works totally fine.

Ah, I’m not sure! I would hate to break up the shot of Ben slowly turning to look. But I’ll play with it next time I am lucky enough to get the chance one of these nights. Maybe even tonight.

Yes, that’s the plan at this point.

And it wouldn’t need serious alteration for the Rey Nobody cut. Unless that version’s logic gets entangled at all, like if that thinktank decides to alter her parents’ role or something.

Jar Jar Bricks said:

True. On second thought, I take back what I said. It’s best to simply remove Finn’s dubbed-in line.

Plus the Palpatine changes, of course.

I agree, and this is where I am.

Also, Poe clarified that D-O provided everything needed about Exegol “except how to get there.”

D-O plus Rey equals all they need. No issues, at least not more than anything this movie addresses with a quick throwaway line here or there.

I haven’t sat down with it yet but I like that. Might even be good to reverse “Empress Palpatine” and “you will take the throne.”

Might be able to mess with it today or tomorrow. We’ll have to see.

I think it would be weird for him to speak so frankly with his military guy about this kind of thing. And as you said, it’s pretty rough.

Nice! I’ll nab it and add it to my timeline

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Sure. Lol okay I think we’ve got a good plan here.

^ I can try swapping those two lines but I’m skeptical it will work well.

In this way of thinking about it, Palpatine wanted Rey dead as a child bc he sensed her power as a threat. Her parents wouldn’t betray her location so he killed them.

And that ought to work fine in this and a Rey Nobody version. Unless the latter goes for keeping her parents and deadbeats.

The line about transferring Palpatine’s spirit has already been moved to the opening sequence in address to Kylo Ren. That should be enough to imply he could change his mind and select a new target, in principle.

I’m not saying it’s great but to me it would’ve had a lot fewer people walking out of the movie genuinely confused about Palpatine’s plans throughout the plot.

What would be sublime is a line to add to the Palpatine-Pryde conversation to further imply this. At present he does say Leia threw a monkey wrench into his plans and he intends for Rey to come to Exegol…
somehow.

Actually… in this new streamlined approach, why the heck would he expect her to come there?

Anyway, some line about “Now I’ll focus on her” or something would help further. It might not need to be a slam dunk match if hologram processing is applied and perhaps further applied to the entire scene to get it to fit in.

Peter Pan said:

^This

In addition a similar ad could play on Anakin’s Nintendo thingy.

Man, in 2005 I was just like “dude that’s literally a GameBoy Advance.”

I’d recommend pursuing Rey Nobody ideas in the main thread about it, as I’ll end up using whatever is produced there and it’ll just get fragmented and lost in this thread.

As Luke and Anakin share a tearful goodbye on the faltering second Death Star, a conspicuous puff of blue smoke moves toward frame left and heads toward space.

The movie doesn’t indicate why Ochi was on Pasaana. We’re only there to track him and he was there to… ???

And I guess Palpatine had the Wayfinder on his shuttle when he arrived on the DSII. If the scene lasted ten seconds longer we’d have seen a red guard carrying it behind him.

nl0428 said:

Hal 9000 said:

It wouldn’t solve as many things as elegantly, as to me it still begs the question “why was Palpatines literal or figurative puppet so keen on killing her last time?”

Possibly because Rey has changed a lot in the year between VIII and IX.

We still have Palpatine ordering her death at the start of TROS.

Jar Jar Bricks said:

These two simple line removals just make everything click so much better imo. The alternative is a lengthy procedure that removes large portions of this film to have things make sense.

Agreed.

It wouldn’t solve as many things as elegantly, as to me it still begs the question “why was Palpatines literal or figurative puppet so keen on killing her last time?”

No argument about that. What I’m saying is that for the purposes of this project I place some value on having things make sense even if one inferred, as I did in the theater in December 2019, that Snoke is his meat puppet.

Jar Jar Bricks said:

So to summarize:

1. Remove Finn saying that “He wanted her alive” because it doesn’t make a lick of sense and was clearly added in after filming.

2. Remove Palpatine saying “I never you wanted you dead. I wanted you here.” (And optionally remove “for my grandchild to come home” because it implies the same thing and is a really goofy line)

Yes. But I’m not certain about the optional part.

Neerb said:

Is the dyad related to healing? The first thing she heals is a snake. And going outside the movies while still in live-action, Grogu healed someone too.

Hmm, I guess so. But if he could’ve just done that at any time, why not do it before when either Kylo or Rey were standing in front of him?

I still find this new idea more intuitive than all that.

And removing the dyad lines, even though it’s a throwaway technical solution we know nothing about, would make the healing effect even more random and out of nowhere.

Neerb said:

lol, and we’re sure all this is the better option than Snoke just not knowing her identity and Palps never wanting her dead? (half-kidding)

I’d say so, for real, at least because he seems to want her dead at the start of TROS. And bonus points for keeping it practically Snoke = Palpatine.

And I imagine simply removing Palpatine’s line “I never wanted you dead, I wanted you here” even though it could be interpreted as him improvising and lying. The rest can be theatrics; “Oh, it’s my wonderful granddaughter please help me with something.”

Damn, you’re probably right. I wonder what the point of that scene was then.