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Especially since no version of Solo I’d ever want to see would keep the Darth Maul scene, I just thought it was perfect to use the music from it. There was a TROS TV spot that had a little DOTF music playing over a snipped of the duel too.

Edit: I? We? I can’t remember anymore.

Awesome, thanks! I’ll see how it plays but I agree that it oughtta make that little gap in the music feel better.

And that podcast episode was fun to hear. They focused on Spence’s edit ‘The Final Order,’ acknowledging this project as its source material and sort of talking about both at once.

That ought to be a fun listen!

And can someone isolate the drums from that? I like the idea and it wouldn’t feel like tracked music from TPM if it’s just the drums.

I… don’t think a force vision of Chewie sounds too exciting though.

While I am reviewing the project… did you say that the Zorri lines could not be gotten how you would want them? Does that mean you don’t think the changes to Poe’s backstory would work?

And do you think we could still try a line for Kylo Ren to suggest that the dagger “revealed” her parents’ fate to Rey? (The line should not be this verbose, but the idea is the dagger is not her parents’ murder weapon but a dark side relic that shows people things because… reasons.)

EDIT: Actually, the line about Skywalker sounds really good! I see what you mean about the voice modulation, but at least for an isolated line that takes place not in close-up, I don’t think it’s a problem. So that line works, in any event!

Would it work to add some hint about one of her attachments prompting her sudden resignation from her training? Or that she was taken by her emotions or something to account for the look on her face?

“She was quick to learn in our training. Leia sensed something she feared: the death/loss of her son. She turned aside from her Jedi path to serve the galaxy through diplomacy. In her life, Leia lost everything, and everyone, but she still chose to love. A thousand generations live in you now. But this is your fight. You’ll take both sabers to Exegol.”

This avoids some AI to have to mix in seamlessly in the same location (Luke in room, not in flashback), and maybe lets us get what we want without pressing our luck.

Also, I pulled up and played with the alternate Kylo Ren lines, and I don’t think any of them are improvements, at least as I am able to do anything with them. The “Captain Hux” line I can’t seem to get the reverb to sound good, whereas RogueLeader had supplied me with processed audio to work with. The dyad line delivery is not as good as the line in the film, and I feel that out of what is available the patch job sound better overall. Also, I think your prior “You were right” still sounds perfectly good without leaving anything wanting. I hope that doesn’t come across poorly; I appreciate working on these, and it is good to have alts.

Thanks for sharing! Always good to hear of these being enjoyed.

I like that. Hard to imagine that we’ve made the Leia knowing about Rey being a Palpatine into something I kinda like.

And you say that dialogue is inspired from the DOTF script?

Trying to think of a line of dialogue to perfectly thread the needle to replace “Leia knew it too” without implying she or Luke knew during the events of TLJ.

I can’t begin to imagine the tedium involved. Fantastic, and will be wonderful to see.

I’m not sure why that would be. I suppose you could try remuxing it to only include the main audio track.

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Fair enough. I’m not planning to hurry through that, though. It’ll just take as long as it takes. It’s very difficult to find any time at all to work on these things anymore. Even though these are important to me.

Status report after nearly a month. The quarters scene will be extremely difficult to get a clean track without voices since most of Kylo’s dialogue can be heard in all five normal channels. It might be more cost-effective for you to give me the lines and sequencing that you want, and let me try to bake it together. That would let me be a little more conniving.

The first line, “What’s troubling you” is okay, but it seems like a net neutral with the scene, risking use of AI voice without gaining much.

Second line I still feel needs to be specified impeccably in order to work. I mean the wording when I say that, but that particular AI line delivery sounds fake.

Is the idea here that Leia forsook her own Jedi training out of fear that her own darkness could prevail? And so when she sensed or learned of Rey’s lineage, it’s meaningful for her to push for a different choice than she made?

The one-frame error has been corrected, and the edit has been reuploaded to everywhere it was.

That’s right, to just let Palpatine simply want to kill her without a reveal about wanting her alive, which… doesn’t really seem to impact the plot much.

The AI voices takes it into Jeff Goldblum territory of focusing on whether we should rather than just whether we could. It’s a good position to be in, though!

Awesome, thanks so much!

Still hoping for a good 3PO line as he bullshits the stoormtroopers as they escape from the destroyer.

Thanks, all. I’ve continued to have very little time to dedicate to this kind of stuff, but I’ll note this on my list.

And yes, your #2 philosophy is right on.

Sounds very good indeed.

To step back a little for a moment, I’m wanting to avoid overuse of AI not just because it risks not totally working but because at this point we’re entering a whole new kind of fan editing. This project is the finale of what for me has been a lengthy journey, and I am comfortable letting it come to rest mostly on the older side of that line.

If I woke up and found that I had Rip Van Winkle’d my way forward fifty years and I could have AI easily pull just about anything
audio or visual out of thin air easily to the standard of a 1080p presentation of a 2019 blockbuster… I don’t think I’d redo my fan edits or dream up a hugely alternate Star Wars narrative.

To reign things back in, the line sounds perfect and has been something others have wanted to hear. I’ve never actively wanted the line to be included, though. I’ll consider it and see what discussion happens about it here. Thanks for doing it, and can you send a link for the raw audio?

I literally don’t remember what takes place in that little scene but I’ll take another look.

And as for Leia merely saying Ben’s name, I assume it’s (all that they had in archived recordings to draw from and) meant to mirror Han calling out his name to pierce through and grab his attention in TFA.

I used and continue to use Final Cut Pro 7 for this project. But I use FCPX for newer ones.

bbghost, thank you so much for the honest feedback. I agree in that I wish to keep the AI to a minimum and only using it when necessary.

That said, I implore you to share the specific lines that stood out to you, and especially those that stood out to your mom.

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Not sure if anyone has caught this yet but at around 1:15:30 there’s a stray frame of the Ahch-To establishing shot before it cuts to Finn/Rose.

Good eye. Really good eye. What I am going to do is fix it in my timeline and the ProRes video output, so that it is fixed in the event I ever do another update.

Yeah the first version had Jabba gone, but I realized it’s not consistent with the overall sensibility that one would have already seen the OT while watching the PT (which the films themselves clearly share). The first version was watched with a relative who’d never seen SW and was young, so I think that biased me toward tucking Jabba away as a surprise.

And the commentary tracks I have manually adjusted sync with subsequent versions so there are a few things like that which don’t match.

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