From the RyanG. thread:
"RyanG. said:
password: JEDIT
here is my scene where I have created Luke saving Leia. thoughts?"
I think the music is a little over the top but the idea is a good call back to Empire. Thought it could be something you could consider Hal.
I apologize for the comment. It just irritates me so much that they were more concerned with pushing an agenda through Holdo in this movie than keeping Leia in the leadership role throughout the movie.
It’s quite sad that it has been 30 years since these characters were in a movie together and they couldn’t all get one scene together, or have a story where they were actually successful, and that is because Disney is more concerned about pushing them out and pushing an agenda with characters than it is telling a focused, clear and consise story, and anyone who does not like it is a racist or “man-baby” to quote R.J.
The Last Jedi is on course to be the most fanedited Star Wars film because of this. Taking out these agenda-driven moments makes for a better film as you can interpret how you want to. Most people tend to cut Canto Bight which is only there to preach about animal rights and that war suppliers are bad, which is why Hal’s Canto Bight is so much better! These scenes feel very out of place in Star Wars movies. The movies are supposed to be about fun and adventure.
It’s nothing more than a cheap fake out and stupid way to remove Leia from the story so Admiral Gender Studies can take over. It would be much more powerful if Leia took out Snoke’s ship and Luke visited her there instead.
Thanks for clarifying!
Have you considered changing the name of the film like you did with the prequels? I think “Legacy of the Jedi” has a nice ring to it. Since the movie is more about continuing their legacy than it is “The Last Jedi”.
Jedit: For the love of God, please remove Space Walker Leia.
I gave up on burning blu rays long ago as I found it to be too difficult to configure. In my opinion it’s better to just buy a large-sized USB and plug it into a blu ray player. I have one that I use for Star Wars edits and Hal’s films have great picture quality and play well that way.
You could try cutting from the exploding door to Finn watching Rose falling back and see how it works without the kiss.
First one, yes.
Second one, meh.
Hal 9000 said:
Thanks for previewing it, and I hope the ending didn’t make your eyes bleed!
Hahaha, it actually works much better when the garbage of Canto Bight is removed. With less Canto Bight I can appreciate it more 😃
A few things I noticed from skimming the workprint…
Why did you decide not to include the “Luke has a Moment” deleted scene? It greatly improves his characterization early on in my opinion. A re-score could help it.
Why keep Finn & Rose’s kiss? There is ZERO romantic strings between the two beforehand and it still feels very out of place.
As promised, here is an updated clip.
Oh, I was thinking your Falcon ending but no broom boy ending.
That was the newest version that had audio fixes at the end. Just ignore the kids. I can post another cleaner version when I am by my computer later today.
It now ends like this:
Kylo w/ Dice -> Falcon Escape -> Canto Bight Kids -> Falcon Party -> End Credits
Canto Kids were moved ahead but can easily be pulled. I just adjusted based on the consensus at the time.
Link: https://vimeo.com/263412531
Password: fanedit
I think DZ’s Falcon ending with the switched shots at the end is quite good. Maybe just tweaking the audio a bit, adding sound foley and such would sell it.
Thanks! Like I’ve said many times before, I really don’t have great editing software, hopefully just some good ideas that can be used to help others with their edits!
I’m not too good with effects work but I’ll see if I can throw anything together to help guide others. I’m not sure if you saw my revised ending I did, but I removed the dialogue in the group shot and flipped the scenes of the Falcon in hyperspace and the group shot. I think it works very well and leaves more of a optimistic cliffhanger for IX.
I would like to follow after darthrush in removing the fathier stuff altogether, going from Finn and Rose leaving their cell straight to hyperspace.
To do this, it would be very helpful to have some sort of shot to establish that BB8 is inside the cell with them, and another to show that BB8 is following them. (This could be adding him to the shot of them starting to move toward the cell door, or a separate shot of BB8 beginning to roll, implying he’s following them.)Does anyone have the ability and desire to put something like this together? Also, I should have a rough cut available soon, if anyone would like to preview the film as a whole with all these changes implemented.
Please tell me this means no kids at the end… 😉
I’d be willing to preview btw
Looking great. Please use this!
That sounds really good. I’d love to see that!
Politics isn’t bad, but what bugs me is that they have time to push animal rights by freeing the slave animals, but not anti-slavery as they take zero time to try saving the slave kids.
I think you should go right to the code breaker and cut the Fathiers. We can assume DJ’s ship was a quicker escape plan.
If you remove Broom Boi you can flip the last two shots of the Falcon in hyperspace and end with the group shot on the Falcon as I suggested before. The shot is perfectly framed and would make for a great ending shot. I followed your criticism from before and removed the voices at the end of the clip as I just added in a stock sound effect of them originally. I think it works well but I don’t want to pressure you with it. I’m not good enough with the editing tools to do the whole movie myself, but I think it might be a good thing for your edit 😃
As much of a problem that it was, Canto Bight needs to stay as it is essential to Finn’s character arc in the film, and through the right trims and cuts I think it can be a lot better, like a quick mini-adventure. The only problem is that if you trim/cut the Fathiers too much, you will also need to remove the kids later on as the audience would have no exposure to them. If you keep the Fathiers but trim them, I think you should consider removing the kids. I think it hurts Finn and Rose’s characters if they free the slave animals and not the slave kids.
JEDIT: I think you should cut it so that they run into the casino to find the codebreaker and are arrested. They are in a hurry to find the codebreaker, they should not be taking their time.
I’m down. Looks good and different.
How does Poe know that Rey is on the Falcon???
I redid my concept ending for TLJ to clean it up a little more. I think that this could be a good concept for fan-editors who want to keep the Canto Bight kids in and end the film differently. It’s not perfect but it’s a good start.
It now ends like this:
Kylo w/ Dice -> Falcon Escape -> Canto Bight Kids -> Falcon Party -> End Credits
Let me know what you think!
Link: https://vimeo.com/263412531
Password: fanedit
One more thing about the switching the ending before I shut up about it…
I do believe that there is merit in reordering the scenes as it helps to show how quickly Luke’s act is already spreading, it also fixes the weird pothole where Broom Boi appears to be watching the Falcon go into hyperspace which it would already be in at that point. Also, it adds more to Leia’s “We have everything we need.” line as the audience would already see that people are willing to help the Resistance, i.e. Broom Boi, and it provides a clearer resolution to the “no one is coming to help” problem on Crait.
Maybe it’s just me, but it seems like a more optimistic ending if we end with Rey and the gang (characters we can relate more to as we know their place in the story) as opposed to Broom Boi, a character with next to no lines that will cause people to make theories about him for 2 years. I agree that the kids need to stay, but the focus at the end of the movie should be on where are characters are currently at and focus on leading into the next movie and where they will be, similar to the ending of The Empire Strikes Back, or any other Star Wars movie for that matter.
Okay, I’m done now 😃