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#242523
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Lowest Priced OOT DVD Search.
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/242523/action/topic#242523
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Originally posted by: Windexed
I think they RARELY promote their prices on new dvds before the day of their release. I've almost never seen them print a price ahead of time, and the "pre-order" price on the website rarely matches the in-store price that Tuesday. Why? Because they don't want people to know their price (or their competition to know their price). They plain and simply want to get people into the store. By using the "low price" nonsense, they can gain customer interest while also not committing to a price, which may or may not be better than their competition's.

But I've always seen new DVD prices listed in the sale ads. I can't say I have ever watched this closely before and I'm not saying every release has the sale price listed, but I know I have seen it done plenty of times.

But yeah, definitely one big scam to get you in the door. Does EVERYTHING with a SW release have to be so shady?!?
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#242480
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My store just got the new DVDs
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/242480/action/topic#242480
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Originally posted by: Fuser
yes - it was recomposited due to Fett being half-missing. What amuses me to great extent is the amount of shots that have been recomposited - which to my mind obviously means they have all the original film elements. Which they deny strenuously.
E X A C T L Y!!!!!

Daft buggers.

I cant name another company that actually tries to piss off its most loyal fanbase.......

Yeah, I ponder this fact too...a lot...

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#242478
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Lowest Priced OOT DVD Search.
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/242478/action/topic#242478
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Here in Philadelphia, PA we get the sales papers a day early so I figured I would list what they said and any extras you can get. Hope this helps a little!


1. Best Buy - No price listed for the movies [checked website and lists for $16.99], but they have the tin and all 3 movies for $59.99. Also says "minimum 20 per store".

2. Circuit City - No price listed but says "Low Price" [checked website and lists for $14.99]. Free collectible SW lithograph w/ purchase of each DVD; collect all 3!

3. K-Mart - No price but says "Low Price DVDs" [movies not even listed on website].

4. Target - No price listed [website says $17.87]. Exclsuive original concept art mini-poster in each movie.

5. Toys R Us - $19.99 each. FREE $5 Limited Edition SW gift card with purchase of any SW movie or Lego SW II. *Also points out in big letters with an arrow towards DVDs, "EXPECTED 09/12".


I find it highly suspicious that almost all of these retailers haven't committed to an in-store price yet this late in the game, and Toys R Us made sure it was known they are "expected". Hmmm....

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#242423
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Episode VI: ROTJ - What Has Changed?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/242423/action/topic#242423
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It's interesting to see that only Hayden's head was used and they kept Shaw's body...makes the whole thing even weirder to me!

Also, I never really minded the '97 ending that much (again, the '97 ending LOL). But one thing that always bothered me was why they would show Mos Eisley rejoicing, because it was made very well known throughout both trilogies that they could care less about the Republic, the Empire, the Rebels, etc.; I highly doubt the news would've had much of an impact on them...
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#242422
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Episode VI: ROTJ - What Has Changed?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/242422/action/topic#242422
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Well, here is the final chapter! Hard to believe all of those months from the time of the announcement until now flew by already!!!

Click Here

 

 

Mod Edit: Unfortunately the website linked to above is no longer around. However…

StarWars•com Official 2004 Changes Preservation : SW : ESB : ROTJ - re-uploaded & compiled by doubleofive
 

The Internet Archive’s WayBack Machine has working functioning links for the site re the 1997 SE changes, here:-

http://web.archive.org/web/20110623222820/starwars.com/episode-iv/bts/article/f19970115/index.html

http://web.archive.org/web/20100328044359/http://www.starwars.com/episode-v/bts/article/f19970115/index.html

http://web.archive.org/web/20100329231926/http://www.starwars.com/episode-vi/bts/article/f19970115/index.html

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#242401
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www.dvdempire.com O-OT pre-orders rankings (updated)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/242401/action/topic#242401
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Originally posted by: CO
As of September 8, 2006:

ESB #2
SW #3
ROTJ #4

Somebody is buying these versions guys, I think everyone needs to reconsider and buy them and try like hell to equal or come close to the '04 set, and then Lucas may 'understand' that we actually like these versions better.

I mean, we are buying inferior transfers to the '04 set, and it looks like they are going to sell like hotcakes, what is a better way of hitting Lucas over the head?

Exactly why I still think it would be a GREAT idea for those who buy to write Lucas and tell him exactly why they bought it: for the OUT and the OUT alone!

There is simply no denying this now. They sold all 3 of the SEs for two years in a row for much less than these 3 movies cost together and they still didn't come close! And not to sound like a broken record here, but this is exactly why I believe we will see the OUT again; I cna hear it now: "Due to the overwhelming response of the sale of the OUT, we have decided to revist the OUT and give it a proper transfer...". Who knows how long that will take, but I think it will be in MUCH less time than first suspected. The reason why I say that is because I have a few DVDs that are non-anamorphic. Suddenly the movie caught on for whatever reason and/or the studio found a new way to hype the movie, so within no time the studio released updated anamorphic versions with loads of extras, different packaging, etc...they wouldn't have done that if they didn't sell well the first time around...

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#242331
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Info Wanted: Anyone Planning on making Anamorphic versions using 2006 OUT DVDs?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/242331/action/topic#242331
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Originally posted by: Laserschwert
Originally posted by: ESHBG
Thanks a lot for the info, wmgan! I don't even have DVD ripping software yet, though, so anything you (or anyone else) would recommend? I'm not looking for anything really fancy (or expensive), just something that would accomplish this SW anamorphic goal with relative ease.

Yeah, when I say novice, I really mean it LOL This is all new to me and I had no real interest in it until now...but thanks to people like you, wmgan, with the more I learn, the more interested in it I become!


As Wmgan said, use DVD Decrypter for ripping. It's free.

Thanks! But I imagine I will need other software to do the rest (e.g. "DVD-lab Pro")? My mistake for not being clear, and I really meant to ask that question too.

EDIT: Just did a search and found that DVD Decrypter is no longer free. I am trying to find decent alternatives...
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#242318
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Info Wanted: Anyone Planning on making Anamorphic versions using 2006 OUT DVDs?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/242318/action/topic#242318
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Thanks a lot for the info, wmgan! I don't even have DVD ripping software yet, though, so anything you (or anyone else) would recommend? I'm not looking for anything really fancy (or expensive), just something that would accomplish this SW anamorphic goal with relative ease.

Yeah, when I say novice, I really mean it LOL This is all new to me and I had no real interest in it until now...but thanks to people like you, wmgan, with the more I learn, the more interested in it I become!
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#242313
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Just saw TV ad for DVDs for the first time....
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/242313/action/topic#242313
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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
Yeah, but it gives off the impression that Chewie's a pet, rather than a technologically advanced 200 year old co-pilot who happens to be covered in fur and speaks with what we hear as growls.

I mean, do you want a pet Yoda, too? ^_~

I do...I'd pet him right on his cute little head.

The whole Chewie thing never bothered me, as I always viewed him as the equivalent of an ape. Very smart, but still could be a pet.
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#242224
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Info Wanted: Anyone Planning on making Anamorphic versions using 2006 OUT DVDs?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/242224/action/topic#242224
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Originally posted by: wmgan
Originally posted by: LeoneNut
I would leave the video totally alone, apart from converting to anamorphic and some sharpening.


I'm not sure that more sharpening would be a good idea, as it would make the picture even more grainy.

I, too, plan to make my own anamorphic version of these DVDs. Now, if only I can get my hands on the original mono mix...

I am a TOTAL novice at all of this stuff but I think it would be a fairly fun an easy project for me to attempt, as I really don't want to do anything to the sound and picture other than making it anamorphic. Or am I way off on my thinking here?

*Oh, and I would like to keep the menus too if possible.
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#242221
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Just saw TV ad for DVDs for the first time....
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/242221/action/topic#242221
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I listened to it a few times and I think he DOES say "DARK Vader"! LOL But I'm sure this is a "creative decision" that was totally intended.

I still think we need to read (and listen) between the lines here regarding the OUT and future releases, though, and I am convinced we will see it again soon. Even that trailer is careful to point out more than a few times, "For a Limited time only, own EACH movie of the Star Wars Trilogy INDIVIDUALLY on DVD." I feel that is how Lucas will get around the whole OUT being limtied thing in the future, because they will be bundled together, or without the SE, or with the PT...

Also, "As a special added VALUE bonus, the original theatrical version from 1977, 1980 and 1983." Value usually equals "just good enough for the money." Nothing will stop a better version for more money, and again, yet another way for Lucas to get around the whole "You will never see the OUT like this again" thing.
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#242204
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So, this is how the DVDs are going to look...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/242204/action/topic#242204
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Originally posted by: Rebelscum
I wonder what Moth3r (or Citizen) could do with this new PAL source. It certainly seems to look better than the laserdiscs so with a slight hint of sharpening filters and anamorphic enhancement, we could be looking at a pretty damn nice looking transfer. I've got Moth3r's PAL trilogy and it looks absolutely great, execept for some colour (desaturated) and sound issues (too low). I have no doubt that those Sept. 12 DVD's can be made to look great using similar methods to the ones Moth3r used for his fine project. So IF Lucas desides this is the absoulute LAST release of the OUT, then at least we could be enjoying a great alternative.

Check out this thread.
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#242195
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So, this is how the DVDs are going to look...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/242195/action/topic#242195
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Originally posted by: Erikstormtrooper
Originally posted by: ESHBG
Originally posted by: zombie84
You guys realise that Moth3r's transfer is equally sharp and detailed, has less grain and better colour fidelity, right?

But isn't Moth3r's transfer from the PAL source? I am in the US and don't want to take the risk of "flicker" or speed up.


Then you want Dr. M's "Reinventing the wheel" transfer. It's a conversion of Moth3r's capture to the NTSC format.

Thanks for the info, Erikstormtrooper! Is this version anamorphic also? If so, I definitely need to look into getting that!!!

Mentasm, GREAT review! And since you mentioned it in your review, after I thought about it, I do think this release actually is intended for the casual fan in hopes of roping them in for future OUT releases. I expanded on those thoughts here.
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#242194
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The Artistic Vision (TM Luca$hFilm)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/242194/action/topic#242194
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Originally posted by: Cable-X1
You know...I was thinking on this whole artistic vision thing a bit. I think it's total bullshit. I think the whole Star Wars franchise exists now simply to make money. I know...no surprise there, right? But look at how the other LFL stuff is handled.

The Indy movies are on DVD, but that's cuz Spielberg has a stake in them. I don't think the handling of the Indy movies is solely by LFL. Spielberg has some say, that's for sure. So we get them on DVD.

The Young Indy series is a different matter. It's been stated by McCallum that the series is finished, but they aren't releasing it until Indy 4 comes out. Why the hell are they doing that? When you finish work on a DVD release, it only makes sense to put it out there. Lucas never does that. There ALWAYS has to be some kind of BIG event tied with the release of a LFL product. It's like there's some kind of marketing strategy for the whole thing. Release something in the fall in preparation for something big in the Spring. This has happened a few times already with the Clone Wars, Episode 3, the SE DVDs and so forth, not to mention the video game they always push at the same time.
This is all carefully thought out to bring in maximum dollars.

Makes me think that Lucas just made the prequels simply to put the franchise in the spotlight again and now he's not going to let it go until he milks it for all it's worth. And I'm more likely to believe that the SEs exist so he can screw his ex-wife out of money.

I don't think this guy is an artist at all. He's just another motherfucker selling out to make a shitload of money. Not like he needed it though...or maybe he did. All those companies have to cost a lot to run.....
Yep, I TOTALLY agree! I can remember way back in '97 when the SEs came out and word spread of Lucas(s) directing the PT. The first thing I said to myself and others was, "Uh oh, these are going to suck BAD!" I had that opinion because of the way Lucas(s) had whored out the trilogy up to that point, and also because the best SW movies (to me) weren't even directed by him! I don't think the man has an "artistic vision" anymore. Well scratch that, he does, but it has very little to do with the true meaning of SW and what it originally was.

Lucas never does that. There ALWAYS has to be some kind of BIG event tied with the release of a LFL product. It's like there's some kind of marketing strategy for the whole thing. Release something in the fall in preparation for something big in the Spring.

And exactly why I am considering NOT buying the 09/12 release now. After further thought, I DO think they are releasing it for the fans that have never seen it. They will then most definitely want it in future releases now (if nothing else than for "collection" purposes) whether alone, in a boxed set, etc.

See, the die-hard OUT fans already love it so Lucas(s) doesn't need them in his mind; he can wait as long as he wants and he still has their purchase if the release is done correctly. But IMO all of the younger and/or new fans will most certainly like the OUT now that they have had a chance to see it. Imagine the hype Lucas(s) will create when he tells those same people, "Hey guys, remember those OUT movies you saw for the first time via the 09/12 release, you know, the ones you loved due to [nostalgia/"missing" scenes/insert the reason here]? Well guess what....they are coming out cleaned up and restored! Anamorphic, choice of audio, bonus features on the discs...". No matter how Lucas(s) chooses to sell those, whether in a mega-boxed set, alone, whatever, they are guaranteed to sell very well!

So yeah, I really feel like this 09/12 release is a way to A) clear old SE stock for next year and B) rope new OUT fans in.


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#242024
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So, this is how the DVDs are going to look...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/242024/action/topic#242024
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Originally posted by: Mentasm
That would be my guess, unless he leaves strict instructions to the contrary. So, how does everyone think these new DVDs should be reviewed? Should the scores be based on the originals only, or both the originals and SEs? I'm leaning towards the first.

I say the first also; the SEs have been reviewed by many sources a dozen times over the last few years.
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#241992
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Poll: Do You Think the OUT will be Released Again in '07?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/241992/action/topic#241992
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I totally agree, Mike O, and everything Lucas says goes in one ear and right out the other with me. I am this way because of his track record and how many times I've heard "never" or "won't be" yet still saw it. And if anyone doubts his flip-flopping, just take a look at his movies and the way they are made, and how many times he's gone back and forth in them with each release and re-release....

Also, he seems to take a lot of advice from Spielberg and just had him involved in EP III. I have a feeling he will be able to talk some sense into him re: proper OUT versions and how much $ he could make off of that (if he hasn't already). LFL is a corporation after all and Lucas is the head, and we all know that when it comes to $, they will go back on their words in a heartbeat and then try to fool the people into thinking that was the plan all along.

And I guess I should've included an option for "Yes, but not in '07" (or something close). Oh well.
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#241978
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Star Wars film versions and best DVD sources
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/241978/action/topic#241978
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Originally posted by: wertyqa
BUT...

9/5/2006 StarWars.com
On September 12, fans will be able to return to the theatrical experience of Return of the Jedi as they remember it from 1983 when the original unaltered version of Episode VI is released on DVD for the very first and only time.

I am not buying the last part and feel it is simply a play on words. Yes, it will be the last time you will be able to buy the OUT EP VI....as a single item.
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#241765
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So, this is how the DVDs are going to look...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/241765/action/topic#241765
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Originally posted by: vbangle
Ah............holy crap......I sorry to everyone here on this thread.....it wasn't my intention to start up something.

I just didn't remember seeing anything about being to buy the SE's by themselves......

I guess it is possible that Best Buy and other retailers got stuck with loads of inventory and with permission or not,
broke up the boxed set to try to get rid of them.....

ESHBG, the description from one of the sellers on Amazon says this about the ANH DVD...
First class shipping. New but without shrinkwrap. This DVD comes from a box set. Free priority shipping upgrade on all orders of 3 items or more. We only deal with original U.S. releases and original ...


Anyway I agree GL is a degenerate of a human being and NOTHING would ever surprise me about him....

Oh no problem, vbangle, and it's not your fault at all! Even though Neil and I disagree, I enjoy the discussion and I will readily admit that what I saw at these retailers could've either been done without Lucas' permission or with their permission, but never marketed by Lucas as individuals and left up to the retailers to do so.

And yeah, your theory is a good one and maybe the retailers broke them up on their own*. But whatever the case may be, my point in all of this is to show that it appears as if the SEs never really sold *that* well, and I am sure well under what Lucas wanted/expected. If they do suddenly sell it won't take a genius to see it is all because of the OUT's doing....no matter how Lucas would try to ignore it, the proof would be right there. And just imagine how much more would sell if it was a quality transfer! I feel that there is one thing Lucas loves more than his art, and that is MONEY! Once he sees he can make some major $ off of this, there is no telling what he will do next.

*That would actually be better for my case, as the boxed set was selling so poorly that the retailers had to do whatever they could to get rid of the product.