Lots of people have made smaller re-encoded torrents for just this reason. The quality is variable, though – maintaining the best possible quality is why these files are so big.
If you’re interested in trying to do the Navajo Greedo subs in the 77 theatrical style, I can try to help. I did a custom font that closely matches the 77 style, but I don’t think it’d have all the needed diacritics, so some Photoshop work may be required after the root characters are done.
atsʼáhoníyééʼ nił hólǫ́ǫ doo.
I gotta ask… what’s this mean?
- Yes, please but I need to sort out my plans and figure out whom to contact. I’ve been off the forum for so long I’m still playing catch up. Once I finalize the plan I will create a thread and contact you. THANKS!
Sure. The only thing I need to know is what resolution you’re aiming for (720p, 1080p, 2160p). I’ll create full-frame transparent subtitle overlays that position the subtitles just right for a DeEd-sourced preservation.
- atsʼáhoníyééʼ nił hólǫ́ǫ doo = May the Force be with you
This leads me to two other questions…
Do you write “May the Force Be With You” differently if you’re addressing multiple people (i.e. “you” is plural)?
Do you know, or know someone else who knows, enough Navajo to create full-film subtitles using the already-done translation from the dub? Or even enough to fanedit the other two films? Because it sounds like you really want to do a lot of thankless work, and I want to convince you to instead do an extraordinary amount of thankless work 😉
If you’re interested in trying to do the Navajo Greedo subs in the 77 theatrical style, I can try to help. I did a custom font that closely matches the 77 style, but I don’t think it’d have all the needed diacritics, so some Photoshop work may be required after the root characters are done.
atsʼáhoníyééʼ nił hólǫ́ǫ doo.
I gotta ask… what’s this mean?
For the custom crawl, you may want to talk to the Krieg der Sterne Team (or at least Laserschwert). They may have some scripts or templates you can use to re-create the crawl without having to re-invent the wheel. That way you could also create a 1977-style Navajo crawl instead of an SE-style Navajo crawl, which would be more appropriate for a Despecialized version anyway, although not the same as the DVD version.
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Not I, sorry.
To clarify, the subtitles do include crawl subs and Greedo subs, but the DVDs include a rendered Navajo crawl which is pretty neat – the subtitles are pretty utilitarian.
I swear most of the 4K discs I buy are just because the Blu is effed up in some manner, not because I’d really appreciate the spec upgrade. Oh well. IMO Jackson will double down and the Shire will look sickly and dreary in the 4K theatrical cuts and other films too. You know, for consistency.
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PM sent. There’s more than one Japanese dub for Star Wars. The home video one is (I think) a little better and it’s trilogy-complete. The theatrical one doesn’t have a dub for Jedi.
DeEd has the necessary Navajo subs to accompany the dub, and you can download the subs separately in Project Threepio (Navajo’s not listed as a supported language because we don’t have complete-movie Navajo subs for the whole trilogy, but we do have the portion that accompanies the dub)
I think Poita’s prints have that beat all the way to hell and back. It just takes time to turn the prints into ones and zeroes, and so we wait.
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Actually Harmy hasn’t ever released anything on MySpleen (he typically uses uloz, which is like MySpleen except way more inconvenient!), but other people put it there anyway.
Looks like SW DeEd 2.5’s checksums are here:
File Name: Star.Wars.Despecialized.Edition.v2.5.mkv
CRC32: 42A67CC6
MD5: E52CC005E48931EF3DF336361DD1A142
SHA-1: 6CA73976E347CD6791DC31B4FCC758F0E5AD265E
SHA-256: 31C4BA98D4A14A71B6DA13830F1C3C508CBF93C89A348D382F76070A23588D6B
And 2.7 is here:
File Name: Star.Wars.Despecialized.Edition.v2.7.mkv
CRC-32: 86C303FB
MD5: 5D26CD805E0E6AAAA3E031A9712E5E2B
SHA-1: F7DAF6EB6292F867D18DBFB1C55C19A13450C696
You didn’t say which version you had, but I’d recommend 2.7.
This tool lets you verify file checksums on Windows (haven’t used it personally):
https://download.cnet.com/MD5-SHA-Checksum-Utility/3000-2092_4-10911445.html
Well, you’d need to know what you were comparing against first. Typically there’s an MD5 or an SHA-1 checksum of the download either in the first post, or you can ask about it in the thread. Then, depending on what type of checksum it is, you’d download some appropriate tool and it would tell you the checksum of the file you downloaded. If it’s a match, the file is correct.
I’d say it’s a bad source file. There are a lot of re-encodes of DeEd out there, mostly to reduce the file size. If you verify your checksums for your original download in the DeEd thread, that would rule that problem out. The only other option would be a bad burn, media problem, or something like that. Layer change transitions should be irrelevant in the Blu-ray world. Also don’t try to load up your Blu-ray with too many optional tracks – Blu-ray does have limits, and there are enough audio and subtitle tracks out there that it’s possible to go over them.
FWIW, I feel that Sanjuro’s grade is reminiscent of the flushed hues of the THX home video remasters. A lot of people like that look (either due to a true preference or simply a positive association with the most common home video releases) and may consider the target look to be somewhere in that neighborhood.
DrDre’s reminds me more of the pre-THX look, which is presumably more closely aligned to the 35mm sources. Given DrDre’s method’s though, his personal “target” look likely isn’t nearly as relevant as what the colors simply are like in the source. 95% of the color is just what the math says it should be, 5% is finesse. Not that the 5% isn’t critical, but it’s the difference between two slightly different yellowish hues, not the difference between red and yellow.
Thanks DrDre. Those look closer to Harmy than Sanjuro IMO – I see some of the desaturated Rancor, but Luke looks great throughout. It may just be that the original elements weren’t all that consistent with each other to begin with – and that’s fine, if that’s how it really looked. So far Harmy’s grade has been my favorite, but this is definitely looking to put 4K83 in the top spot color-wise.
I’d be interested in seeing more examples of the Rancor differences, if you have them. I like the frame you showed, but it doesn’t appear to be the exact same frame as the Sanjuro example.
Also, I know there seems to have been a great deal of difficulty making some of these Rancor shots color-consistent, possibly because they simply aren’t very consistent. In particular, there’s a one shot (Luke starting to hide under rocks as the Rancor lumbers into the frame in the foreground) where Harmy’s correction showed realistic skin tones for Luke, at the cost of the Rancor looking extremely desaturated. Sanjuro got the Rancor looking consistent with the surrounding scenes, at the cost of Luke looking unnaturally red-faced. I wanted to see where your correction landed with this one, considering your skin tones in general seem to line up better with Harmy’s color correction.
Have to say, as far as I’m concerned this is looking to be the authoritative color grade for 4K83. I know that nothing’s ever 100% perfect and there will always be room for minor refinements, but it’ll be close enough for a lot of people. “We’re all done with color now, everyone drive carefully. Bye!”
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It’s a long-simmering opinion held by a decent number of regulars here though, nothing really new. The idea of preserving a film for future generations without also distributing it to people in the present rubs them the wrong way. And I get it, they’re fans and they want it now. Hey, so do I. And it’s weird, so kill it with fire.
The very moment this project started, when Mike very clearly and unambiguously announced “…aaaand nobody’s going to actually be able to see this thing unless Lucasfilm explicitly allows it”, people started complaining. “Put up or shut up” was a common refrain. My own initial reaction wasn’t so charitable, to be honest – it was something along the lines of “Yeah, I see you’re preserving history and bully for you, those future generations, and your ethical high ground, but… why exactly are you here? Is it to tease us, to brag, or both?”
Since then I’ve learned that Mike has been an extraordinarily helpful member of this community, whose contributions most certainly dwarf my own, even if they’re often not as apparent to the average viewer. His inactivity here makes me sad not because we’ll never see his contribution, but because his long history of meaningful contributions will have stopped.