Sometimes I like to visit old abandoned barns just to take a peek at what state of collapse they’re in today.
Yep, that’ll do me for another year.
That’s a very familiar story here. I came here shortly before my second child was born, also wondering if either of my kids were ever going to be able to see the Star Wars trilogy. I initially came here just looking to see if there was an anamorphic version of those 2006 DVD’s, or instructions for how to do it myself, I swear…
…but seven years and change later, and I’m still here, with an altered mission. If once you start down the geek path, forever will it dominate your destiny. Best of luck in your endeavors.
And for the record, my first kid is kinda meh on Star Wars, but my second loves it. Kids these days.
Has anyone ever made any attempts to re-insert the snake reflection into a project like this?
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^^ what he said. SRT is text and timestamps, SUP is images and timestamps, essentially.
To be honest, SRT is probably truly fine for almost everyone. But, especially with other languages, having your player so much as select the wrong subtitling font can be a very serious problem. For non-English subtitles, the player-positioned SRT subs might overlap the Greedo subs, and so on. SUP subtitles look how I designed them to look (they look exactly like the screencaps in Project Threepio’s first post). But SRT may be close enough for a lot less effort, so I can’t blame people for using them (who knows what they look like, but they’re the right words at the right times, so there you go).
And also, I’m the first to admit my “matching” subs are a total gimmick, but that whole concept is pretty much impossible with SRT.
Yeah, I honestly listen to it downmixed all the time with no issues. But he’s proud of what he created and wants it shown in the best possible light. I’m sure there are minor phase issues on a stereo mixdown that some careful listener with high-end headphones and a critical ear may pick up, and he doesn’t want the blame for that falling on him, and I understand.
Kinda the way I’m always telling everyone to use Project Threepio’s SUP files and everyone just uses the SRT files and I just privately cringe. It’s the difference between as good as the creator intended and good enough for most purposes.
Also, most theatres in 1977 showed the film with the mono mix, so while all three can fairly be said to be the original theatrical mixes, probability is on the side of the mono mix being the one any given person actually heard. The stereo and six-channel mixes are so similar, that, if pressed for space, I’d be tempted to jettison the stereo, except that the stereo mix may work better than downmixing the six-channel for people using stereo-only setups. Pick your poison.
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Or maybe (here’s me: forever the optimist) he was forced to take it down by Disney cuz they’re gonna release it.
Ah to be so young and starry-eyed.
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Looks like all the usual suspects are out of stock, possibly for good (it was a limited edition deal, after all). That’s a shame – even for those who prefer the unaltered films via some fan preservation and my synced Navajo track, I’d always recommend they buy the real deal. Not just because those are the fan edit rules, but because the Navajo voice artists really deserve whatever share of the proceeds they would have gotten, and then some. They did great work.
I believe the latest Despecialized Edition has the Navajo audio (modified to sync and remove SE elements), and Navajo “titles” subtitles in SRT format for the onscreen text. Project Threepio has those subtitles in other formats. This may be all that’s widely available anymore.
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DrDre’s tools will likely do quite well, but you may discover you need shot by shot rather than scene by scene correction. Poita has some not-fully-corrected screenshots in his ESB thread that you can probably use for sanity checks. I think DrDre has even posted corrected versions of them.
IIRC it was a mix of a color-balanced GOUT, Puggo Strikes Back (16mm print), and Harmy’s eyeballs. I believe there was an incomplete 35mm source from Poita toward the end of this that may have also helped.
For example, while I think color-balanced GOUT was the major reference, there were a few instances where the GOUT diverged widely from PSB and other theatrical prints (the warm orange glow sometimes seen in the Cloud City halls was a cool blue in the GOUT). In those cases, PSB/prints were the reference. I believe the prints were similarly used to “settle” the issue of bluish ice on Hoth, not that people don’t still complain about it.
You’re welcome, but a lot of the work was done by others – I’m just the curator at this point.
One comment from the consumer’s perspective: For me it’s more important to have a synced product than how it was synced. Unless I’ve overseen it, nobody has bothered so far to sync the dubs to 4K83. So I’m very happy that CatBus now has done it the other way round.
Well, the main problem here is nobody has “all the dubs” as far as I know. I have an awful lot of them, but not nearly all. German is easy because you’ve essentially got just one dub… but I suspect many of our international viewers have their own copy of their favorite audio track, and they just mux that into whatever video they download. We can’t help them by syncing audio tracks they don’t listen to.
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FWIW, I plan to release a GOUT-synced 4K83 to address all the sync issues with not only dubs, but any other GOUT-synced audio tracks (Laserdisc rips, in-theatre recordings, etc) that people may have collected over the last 26 years since the Definitive Collection Laserdiscs came out and became the primary thing to sync to.
Awesome!
This is now available on MySpleen.