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#899174
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Project Threepio (Star Wars OOT subtitles)
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Out-of-the-box, no. Project Threepio has a conversion script that can sync the subs against different video sources, but we don’t have a conversion string for SW Silver Screen yet. I’m hoping some kind soul posts one that works here (it’s not too hard to make one via trial and error, subtitle timing is very forgiving), and then everyone could just plug the string into the existing script and convert the subtitles. I also might get around to making a conversion string, but it’ll be a while, as I’ve got other things going on right now.

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#898810
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Project Threepio (Star Wars OOT subtitles)
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PM sent. The main subtitles are in PGS format, but there are also SRT files for those who need a text format. I didn’t find any of the text subtitle formats were really adequate for this project*, so I’m not going to provide anything beyond SRT, not that you couldn’t make them if you wanted them badly enough. PGS can be used directly with software players like MPC-HC, you just add it as an external subtitle, just as you would an external text file–it’s not just for Blu-rays.

* My main complaint about text formats is that I like to keep content and formatting as separate as possible, as it makes managing huge projects like this a lot easier (think CSS). That’s why I actually prefer a “dumb” format like SRT, and manage layout through various external scripts. But there’s some other more corner cases where I just don’t like text formats too.

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#897326
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team negative1 - star wars 1977 - 35mm theatrical version (Released)
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It might take me some time to get to this, so if someone comes up with a conversion string that works for this release in my resync_subs.pl utility, post it in the Project Threepio thread. Subtitles are very forgiving, so your sync doesn’t have to be perfect. Once we have the conversion string, people can watch this subtitled without a whole lot of effort, even if it doesn’t come with them.

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#897290
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Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope (Special Navajo Edition) Official DVD (Released)
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No, I’ve heard elsewhere that there’s no Navajo subs–hadn’t heard anything about Navajo Greedo subs either, but that’d be kinda neat. Let me know what you find, but I suspect they just dub over Greedo like many other dubs. If the Greedo subs are for real, either rip them or send screencaps, either way.

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#897272
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Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope (Special Navajo Edition) Official DVD (Released)
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I’ve been on-again, off-again interested in this. Because it’s not a trilogy-complete dub, and because my primary focus is on subtitles, I’ve always had some reason to put it off. If you uploaded a copy I could easily get ahold of (doesn’t have to be MySpleen, anything works), I’d have one less reason for delay, and I’ve certainly got enough experience syncing and despecializing dubs at this point.

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#897229
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Religion
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Danfun128 said:

You’re right. Growing up with a family of radical Christians has certainly tainted my view of Christianity as a whole, and I know that as a result I couldn’t truly neutral about it. It’s a pity that your saying so only makes me feel more uncertain on how I should raise my future kids.

Second-guessing yourself at every step is an integral part of parenting. As a bonus, everybody else second-guesses your every step too. But it’s worth it anyway 😉

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#897215
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Project Threepio (Star Wars OOT subtitles)
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I’m coming to what’s probably as close as I’m going to get with my “matching” subtitles.

Project Threepio: New Matching

Looking at this live, the most noticeable difference between these subtitles and the theatrical alien subtitles is that the theatrical font is slightly rounded at the corners, while my matching font has sharp corners (there are plenty of more minor things too). Rounded corners are something I’m afraid I can’t address without the aid of someone who really knows their way around a font editor much, much better than me. Other than that, in some cases these can look better than the burnt-in alien subtitles in some preservations, if those subtitles are recreations. But that’s a difference I can live with!

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#897178
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Religion
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Danfun128 said:

I probably am aiming for that level for neutrality. If they decide to become Christians, their Christianity must be their own. Maybe I’m wrong, but it seems like young kids are too young to make these kind of decisions. Some young kids only join a church because their sunday school gives out pizza every week.

I agree important choices should be made by adults, but I guess it’s the atheist in me that wonders if religion qualifies as an important choice (probably could have been phrased better, really not intended as flamebait, honest). I mean, as long as you’re a decent, kind, generous, loving person, does it really matter at all if you’re a Presbyterian or a Zoroastrian? Not to be too flippant, but that decision pretty much just dictates where you hang out on weekends, and whether you eat pork, right? I think what you may be worried about is that your own experience is that religion is some all-consuming thing that colors your world and alters the course of your life. But for lots of people, religion is pretty benign – nice even – and not a significant differentiator between them and other people. It’s a little zest in the bland modern world, a little cultural identity that they can call home. Whether or not they got it through a conscious and informed choice… isn’t actually that big of a deal.

And fair warning – everyone has biases (see above for mine 😉 ), your kids will inherit your biases, and if you’re lucky, your kids will call you out on them when they grow up. Neutrality is a very noble goal, but there’s nothing as infuriating as a parent who claims to be totally, completely neutral when they’re not. Try to be upfront about your own biases, like “you know, I’m not really the best person to ask about brand X Christianity because my own parents were brand X, and it was a really awful experience for me”.

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#896947
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Religion
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Danfun128 said:

When (and if) I eventually marry and have kids, should I deny them access to my parents? I’m afraid some of their insanity (Dominionism, persecution complex; creationism; bigotry toward Muslims, LGTBQ people, and to a far lesser extent, black people [While they don’t support anything overt like slavery, they think that God made whites to be better]), especially that of my mom (anti-vaccinations; New Apostolic Reformation; seeing stuff like Pokemon, Mario, Sonic etc as satanic; traumatic exorcisms) would rub off on them. The fact that Mom sometimes says “You reap what you sow” concerning my future children whenever I act too “rebellious” does not help matters in the slightest. By her logic, she’s cursing my children, even if she doesn’t see it that way.

I am not Christian, so just hanging that bias out there so you know how much to ignore me. IMO, absolute denial to grandparents is a pretty severe step, reserved for the realistic threat of physical and/or psychological harm. Most of the stuff you mention doesn’t meet that standard–except traumatic exorcisms, which sounds like it might qualify (I don’t need details, you judge for yourself). That said, near-complete denial to grandparents is both very easy and very common–it’s called moving way the hell away from them. Put enough miles between your kids and your parents, and they’ll only be around each other during very specific, very supervised, very limited times (the holidays–yaaay!), and the rest of the year you can relax. Lots of people have some fairly ghastly relatives that they’d honestly rather their kids never laid eyes on, but there’s a few things worth pointing out about that. Kids are smart. Give them a good moral and intellectual compass and they’ll be able to figure out what’s going on with your parents all by themselves. Kids also love forbidden fruit. You tell them to stay away from something, or keep them away from something, and they’re all over it. Let them figure out for themselves what they want to stay away from. By the sounds of it, it doesn’t sound like it will be very hard for them to figure out.

A related question. Though I may be sceptical of the Bible, I feel like it’s important that my future kids learn its contents, if only so they can understand the background of my family and make their own minds about its contents. I want my future kids to be critical thinkers, to have the right to have opinions that I might not agree with, but I know aren’t wrong. I want my kids to be able to be capable of making the right choices even without the fear of hell fire forcing them to obey. How do you suggest that I teach my kids the bible?

I went to public school in the US, and we read the Bible in school (Genesis and Job, etc, not the whole thing), but it was the Bible as literature. It was neither treated as “this is the Truth!” nor “this is just mythology!” It was, “this is an important cornerstone of literature in our language, so let’s read the thing” My English teacher also taught Sunday school, but he managed to find a very respectful middle ground. AFAICT Christians didn’t feel trivialized, non-Christians didn’t feel sidelined. I’m not saying you have to be THAT neutral, of course, since I’m assuming you’ll be raising your kids to be Christian (unclear on that) – but a certain amount of evenhandedness improves the message, no matter what your goal. Again, kids are smart. Give them analytical tools, and trust them to use them. They’ll appreciate it. Good luck.

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#896711
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Info: Subtitles and tsMuxer
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Well, here’s an interesting tidbit I just found out. It certainly looks like frame-accurate subtitles are not actually possible in either the SUP or BDN+XML formats (the two graphical formats). This is because for some reason, the internal timings are stored at a fixed 24.000fps, in a weird hybrid seconds+frames format, and are converted to 23.976fps values on the fly. This is usually not a problem but every now and then, something just won’t come out on the exact right frame. Which means we can add frame accuracy to the reasons to burn the theatrical alien subtitles in.

Not that frame accuracy matters at all for your typical subtitles, so maybe this issue never concerned the people writing the specs. But still, I feel like this is crappy because it’s a self-inflicted technical limitation that they could have pretty easily avoided. In fact, the way timing is handled seems so needlessly complicated, I don’t even…