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#154121
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This 2007 Archival Edition - For Real Or Not ???
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I disagree. The strong sales of the 2004 DVD release tells me that there ISN'T a market for it cuz the average joe doesn't care what version they have. To them, it's Star Wars and that's it. They're not distinguishing between SE or OT or whatever.

If the mass majority wanted the original versions, there would have been a lot more grumbling on the issue. Most reviews of the 2004 set barely touch on the issue and the ones that do just associate the need to have these versions as part of the "geek factor."

The market of the OOT is a niche market. We're that market and we are a small number compared to the number that will just blindly buy whatever GL puts out. And LF will bow to the numbers.
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#154117
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This 2007 Archival Edition - For Real Or Not ???
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Okay...I hear a lot of talk about some sort of archival release of EVERYTHING Star Wars movie-wise on DVD whether it be on Blu-ray or HD-DVD...my question is...

Where the hell have any of you heard that this is going to happen?

Is there some kind of OFFICIAL statement that this is going to happen or is this just some HUGE assumption that many of you are making?

I'm pretty damn sure that 2007 will see some kind of special release, it being the 30th anniversary and all, but how do you know it's going to have the whatever new versions and the original versions on it?

Seems to me that a lot of people are banking on these "archival editions" and I think they ain't gonna happen. Everything GL has said indicates that those original versions are history, gone, ka-put, nowhere to be found or seen.

Seriously, unless someone can produce an official quote or statement, then this is strictly rumor only and no one should be counting on it or getting their hopes up. Hope I'm wrong and we do get this kind of release, but I ain't getting excited about nothing yet till I get an OFFICIAL statement and see a box art and pre-order info.
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#152000
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ROTS Extras: CGI TPM Yoda
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/152000/action/topic#152000
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Originally posted by: Mr Bungle
I am sure there will be a Special Edition of the Prequels

talking of the Special Features i found this amusing on the commentry.

"they had to go back and film Obi Wan picking up Anakins lightsabre after their duel- he later gives it to Luke in Episode IV- because "we kind of forgot about that"


and it's a wonder why the prequels sucked ass!?!??!?!

People tell me I'm nuts for thinking the prequels were good and I hear this statement from the people MAKING the movies!!!!!!!!

I already threw my steaming pile of crap at Lucas.....I just wonder when everyone else is gonna wake up and follow suit.

This is as much of a slap in the face as we're gonna get. They don't even know the events in their own saga to make films to properly fit.
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#150077
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"Like all creative minds, they need to be slapped down!"
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/150077/action/topic#150077
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Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
Sounds like a far better idea than the actual AvP. //vomit



Yeah, that one was pretty harsh. Was cool to see a Predator kick the shit out of an alien.....but the character were so.....boring!!!

I actually was thinking that they could do much, much more with both the predator and the alien series. They could really tie both together quite well too.

Predator - as we know it
Predator 2 - as we know it
Predator 3 - takes place in the future as a prequel to alien......the company has a run in with an predator ship....it ends with the predator ship crashing and being the same ship that Ripley and her crew visit in Alien.

Alien - as we know it
Aliens - as we know it
Alien 3 - as we know it

Aliens: Earth Hive - trilogy of films where the aliens get to Earth and completely fuck everything up (based from the comic series, which was great) and how an android Ripley helps to destroy the aliens and save Earth

Alien Resurrection - as we know it
Alien Vs Predator - as I described above with the cloned Ripley joining the Predators and you can do more of these if need be

Sound good?
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#150036
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"Like all creative minds, they need to be slapped down!"
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/150036/action/topic#150036
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Originally posted by: The Bizzle
Hey, he's gonna put those feelings out there so vehemently, he can defend them as such Such is how discussions go. I never said his feelings weren't understandable, either. Actually, the only thing I didn't understand is how he can dig quality entertainment like Firefly and still think Alien Resurrection is a good movie, but he's definitely not alone in that regard. He's got like, 6 other people with him, I think. Diff'rent strokes and all.

it's all gravy, MeBe, although I'm sure he appreciates the head-pat.

Besides which, at least we have common ground in that we both really like Firefly and Serenity



A head-pat? You're not trying to patronize me? Are you, Biz?

I still stand behind that Alien Resurrection was good. It had a good concept, but it could use a sequel or two. Just that weird alien/human hybrid at the end was a little hard to swallow.

Thanks MBJ for coming in.....I really hate the term "fanboy." It gets thrown around too much over the PT vs. OT or SE vs. OOT issue and has really turned me off. All I ever wanted was the original trilogy to stand the test of time and then have a prequel trilogy that told the whole story and was every bit as great as the OT. That would have been a great thing if I ever had kids and showed them Star Wars. Something to share with the next generation, I suppose. As it stands, I have neither. The films I grew up with "no longer exist" in the eyes of its creator and the new films can be summed up on two words: "shit sandwich." Bonus point to who gets that reference.

So, for all it's worth, I feel a bit cheated cuz I was VERY into Star Wars when I was a kid and it was a way to hang onto the kid in me a bit longer.

I just hate that many would call me a fanboy and dismiss the whole thing. Anyone who says that to me, I say fuck 'em then....plain and simple
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#149846
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"Like all creative minds, they need to be slapped down!"
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/149846/action/topic#149846
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Biz...

Regardless of whatever fuckups Whedon has made, I still think his writing is light years ahead of Lucas.

I actually liked Alien Resurrection (except that wierd alien mutation at the end), X-Men was awesome through and through and I honestly think Firefly was mistreated (airing the pilot last?!?!?!!?).

I realize that I am sort of championing Whedon lately, but I really do think he's better than Lucas. I never said he was "The New Lucas."
I just feel rather let down by Lucas and then I discover this great show called Firefly and then see this great movie called Serenity and I feel somewhat reinvigorated that even though the greatest sci-fi epic (to me anyway) of Star Wars was ruined, there is still some good stuff out there to discover. And there will be more great stuff to come!!!

And I really hate that fanboy shit that gets spewed around a lot. I'm not a virgin, I don't live in my parent's basement, I don't live, eat breathe and shit Star Wars or Star Trek. I like stories....particularly science fiction stories. I'm no more fanboyish than those crazy fuckers who go to sports games every weekend. Gosh, give the fanboy bullshit a rest!
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#149828
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"Like all creative minds, they need to be slapped down!"
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/149828/action/topic#149828
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I don't who this Joss Whedon guy is, but damn he is 100% right on how to make a saga great, and how to ruin it.


Then I HIGHLY, HIGHLY suggest that you get the Firefly DVD set and if you can, get your butt to the theater to see the movie, Serenity.

It is everything that Star Wars is lacking in the prequels. Firefly has a Han Solo that shoots FIRST!!!!!! That's enough for me.

Seriously though, I've been listening and reading a lot about Joss Whedon and I can't help but think that this guy knows what he's doing and knows what the hell he's talking about. Plus, he's a pretty likeable person and seems like he's doing this for fun. Watching Lucas in the bonus stuff on the DVDs was like watching a test pattern.....BORING!!!

Another interesting comment by Whedon in the commentaries was about AOTC. Joss something to the effect that there was stuff he really didn't agree with early in that film. He never elaborated and I think it might have been about camera work though, but I would LOVE to hear his opinion of the prequels, mostly cuz he's a writer in Hollywood who's doing work that I think is better than most out there right now.
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#149823
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"Like all creative minds, they need to be slapped down!"
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/149823/action/topic#149823
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SW is Lucas's toy, and he's an adult, how could you convince him that certain things needed to be slapped down?


I understand where you're coming from with this, but I think it's just a testiment to Lucas' ego, which has GOT to be huge. He's probably the most powerful force in movies today. No one is going to argue with him after all the money he's made.

I think the prequels are going to be laughed at in 10 years time. People are going to look at it and say they are shit.

I just think that Lucas shouldn't have done any more Star Wars movies. I'm happy with the OT.

As for the Firefly stuff you said, none, he does have plenty of people working with him, but in some of the other commentaries, the writers said that Joss would change and add stuff. So to me, it has his handprints on everything, but it isn't ALL Joss. The prequels is ALL Lucas.
Even if he had help on AOTC, it's still all Lucas. The OT had other writers all the way through. Even the Star Wars script was doctored by some other writers even though Lucas got credit for it. Empire and Jedi were written totally by people other than Lucas.
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#149813
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"Like all creative minds, they need to be slapped down!"
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/149813/action/topic#149813
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Joss Whedon said this on the commentary to the pilot episode of Firefly.

I immediately thought of Mr. Lucas. He had no one to tell him "NO!!!" on the prequels. I think that's what hurt them most of all. Lucas isn't as great as many (I sure did) thought he was. It wasn't just him. It was all those people who worked with him on Star Wars and Empire. Many of them were gone by Jedi and it showed. They were there to check and balance Lucas.

As a aspiring writer myself, I can see where you would want creative control and don't want anyone telling you "what to do." I used to think editors, producers and such were evil people, but after seeing what Lucas has done to Star Wars with those crap prequels, I have completely changed my mind on that. I think they're necessary. Creative minds need to be kept in check, otherwise you get something like Jar Jar Binks or Ewoks or shit dialogue in front of a fireplace.

It's all good though. I used to be angry about what Lucas did, but I unplugged from Star Wars for a while and got some perspective. Star Wars and what Lucas has done and become is simply just a demonstration of what not to do in any artistic endeavor. Always write the whole story at once, never wait too long to tell it and always have someone critiquing what you do (feedback is important, even during the creative process).

To me now, Lucas is a joke. Joss Whedon is the man now. Don't mean to be sprouting Whedon off though....I just love Firefly and Serenity. Makes me feel like I did when I watched Star Wars as a kid. I needed that right now after Episode 3.