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#500705
Topic
The Empire Strikes Back is the best Star Wars movie. Or is it?
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miker71 said:

Leia's "walking carpet" line has always bugged me, do we even see a carpet anywhere in the trilogy? It's an instant back-to-Earth-ism for me that line. And it's not even funny...

 

That part of it has never bothered me, while I am not sure if we ever see a carpet in the trilogy (Ben's hut? Yoda's hut? Jabba's palace? Owen and Beru's? Bespin, perhaps. Those are the only potential places for them I can think of. It isn't like the films spend any time in the dwellings of the average citizen of the Galactic Empire, which would be the sort of setting one might expect to see a carpet), it isn't like the camera spends much time looking at the floor either. They've developed technology way beyond ours, I am sure someone would have gotten tired of walking around barefoot on cold floor and invented a rug at one point or another. I don't really see that as a back-to-Earth-ism.

When I was a kid, I did think that line, along with "Laugh it up, Fuzzball" was pretty funny. But as I got older it began to bother me because it seemed out of place for Leia. SW Leia was royalty and a stuck up, selfish, spoiled snob. In that context the line fit. However, trilogy Leia evolved into something much more than that, and it makes her seemingly racist comment seem out of place for her character. Referring to him as a "walking carpet" and not addressing him directly when he clearly understands basic suggests she thinks of Wookies as lessers to humans (not to mention, she didn't give the poor guy a medal).

I guess we could chalk the whole thing up to her just having a really bad day and being in a bit of an irritable mean mood in the first film. She did just watch her planet get blown up, lost her family, and-- What the hell!? We went through three freaking crappy prequel films and we never got to see Alderran? What a missed opportunity to add some extra emotion to that scene! Six movies, hours spent on the same lame backwater desert planet, and we never even get a glimpse of Alderran? Sorry, just now realizing that. Where was I? Oh yeah, I guess we can forgive Leia's out of character racial slam on Wookies since she had just gone through so much. Humorously, I've always thought that line a better candidate for removal than Han's BAMF shooting first moment.

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#500698
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Last movie seen
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skyjedi2005 said:

I always wondered if the four lights torture scene in TNG was a reference to 1984 by Orwell.  Where they try to convince 2+2=5 instead of 4.

Which probably was an Orwell reference to what Stalinism ?

 

Yeah, that scene is a very clear reference to a moment in 1984. For anyone who hasn't read it: The main protagonist (Winston) has been caught and is being tortured in order to force him to conform to be an appropriate member of society. His torturer, O'Brien tells him they found his diary and that he wrote in it "Freedom is the freedom to say two plus two makes four. If that is granted, all else follows." So O'Brien holds up four fingers and asks him how many fingers he is holding up. Winston tell him four. Then O'Brien asks him, what if the party wants 2+2=5, then what? And asks Winston to again tell him how many fingers he is holding up, inflicting pain on him every time he answers truthfully with "four".

 

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#500626
Topic
Video Games - a general discussion thread
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GF and I finished Lego Monkey Island with full achievements. Final verdict: felt extremely short. It usually doesn't take the two of us long to take down a Lego game, but this one felt like it took us about half the time any of the others have taken us. Lego Star Wars III on the other hand had some pretty decent longevity to it, definitely a much better value. Lego Pirates of the Caribbean would be a good bargain bin or $14.99 and under GameStop section purchase. Fun, but not really worth more than that.

 

 

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#500325
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Last web series/tv show seen
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Yoda Is Your Father said:

The American version of Red Dwarf is absolute ball-bag.

Which one? There were two separate pilots filmed, they were both shit. Glad neither one made it out of the pilot stage, it would be another embarrassing moment in American TV history, and something Red Dwarf fans would have some 'splaining to do about when telling their friends about the series (Kind of like H2G2 fans with the H2G2 film, hate that thing. "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is a really great book, you should read it" "Yeah... I saw the movie. Definitely not my cup of tea" *facepalm*).

 

 

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#500051
Topic
Last web series/tv show seen
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greenpenguino said:

Hmmm.. We seem to have alot more success adapting your television to our screens than you do adapting our TV for your screens...

 

True story. Though I thought it was funny the American version of The Office went over so well that it even airs in the UK as The Office: An American Workplace. Three's Company was extremely well received too though, and is considered a classic here. So we seem to get it right sometimes, at least.

Life on Mars is one of my absolute all time favorite shows, just started watching through it again this week. Every time I fall in love with it all over again. The American remake was absolutely atrocious! Really need to get my hands on Ashes to Ashes, never seen a single episode.

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#500028
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Last movie seen
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Leonardo said:

Sorry, it's just that I've never watched TNG, and I just know the line from the Picard Song.

 

I watched the video for the Picard song, weird. Some people have waaaay too much time on their hands...

Anyway, it actually didn't use the instance of the four lights I was trying to reference (in that episode he is being interrogated as a prisoner of the Cardassians, he has four bright lights shining on him and his interrogator is trying to break his will and get him to agree that there are five lights. So the line is spoken by Picard numerous times), my quote needed to be read with far more drama and defiance than the instances of the quote in the Picard Song.

Here is the clip from the TNG episode:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moX3z2RJAV8

 

And just to be slightly on topic, Day of the Dead is still the last movie I have watched.

 

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#500026
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Last movie seen
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I agree with 005, 4 balls makes more sense (because it doesn't), 4 balls is way funnier and it is true to the source of the ball rating system established my sallyliao in 2011 (the Sallyliao Ball Rating System).

sallyliao said:

Nice! Loved it. The Mist. I was pleasantly surprised, despite some dodgy CG. Really loved the ending. 3 balls out of 4 balls.

And when someone messes it up, we can quote Picard at them... :D

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#499745
Topic
Does Romero's Dead series depict the same zombie apocalypse?
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TV's Frink said:

TheBoost said:


no one cared

This.  And why care now?

Not to start anything, but here is another example of if it isn't relevant to you, it doesn't need to be talked about at all attitude. I just don't get where this attitude comes from.

There are a ton of threads with discussion I would be hard pressed to care any less about, as such, I just don't click on them. I think people would get more than a little annoyed with me if I jumped into every sports thread and asked "Who cares? Why does this matter?" etc. Asterisk obviously started the thread because it is an interesting topic to him.

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#499631
Topic
opinions on film restoration/preservation and how it applies to Star Wars - what do you think should/should not be allowed?
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S_Matt said:

I think I can see what would happen if a "restored" version of Star Wars supposedly identical to the final release version were to come out on blu ray - most of you would still boycott it because of something or other it got wrong in any of its 120 odd minutes of run time. There *has* to come a point where close enough is good enough. Its just never going to happen that anyone would ever restore a 35 year old film in a way that would please every die hard restorationalist in all instances.

You're very persistent.

We've all told you how we feel and what we want. Starting to feel like you just want to pound things into the ground or get us all to agree with you.

What we want out of a restored version isn't unreasonable. What we want is a restored version. That doesn't exist.

I am sure if Orsen Welles could have filmed Citizen Kane in color back in 1941, he would have. That is fantastic! But I don't really care what Orsen Welles might have wanted had the technology existed. I want the film that actually was made. Why is that concept so hard for you to wrap your head around?

Star Wars isn't by any means or stretch of the imagination my favorite movie, so it isn't that I am being overly anal or picky with just this one film. Plenty of other old films were restored and released on DVD and looked great. No modern special effects, no computerized recomp, just cleaned up, restored, and transferred to DVD, a representation of a film from the age it was made in stored on a high quality modern media format. Pretty simple. It isn't rocket surgery. If this was done with the original Star Wars films, I'd be happy. You don't believe me? Okay.

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#499471
Topic
Does Romero's Dead series depict the same zombie apocalypse?
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asterisk8 said:

I still have to ask, why is that sort of convoluted logic easier to believe than just that each film is a unique take on the concept of zombie apocalypse?

Seriously. Asterisk, you and I are very much on the same page here.

I think that is why Romero hasn't really spoken up on this issue, the continuity doesn't matter and is far from the purpose of the films.

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#498850
Topic
Does Romero's Dead series depict the same zombie apocalypse?
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I hadn't realized the common consensus was "yes". I am inclined to agree with you. They work together thematically, and carry the exact same disaster, but the dates are so far apart that I have actually always just assumed they didn't have connected continuity.

In Dawn of the Dead, though it was made ten years after the first film, and the setting of both films reflect the time they were made in, it seems the zombie apocalypse had happened very recently. Though admittedly, Day of the Dead obviously takes place a good deal of time after the outbreak began; I guess it would be reasonable to assume that Dawn and Day share the same zombie apocalypse. Bottom line is that I don't think it really matters. The details of the outbreak were never even a major point of those films, they all drop right into the thick of it and focus on the characters in the situation. The audience is purposefully kept in the dark as much as the characters are, and the details are left vague, because they aren't that important to the story being told or the points being made.

Not to say discussions like this arn't still fun to have.