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#527431
Topic
What are you reading?
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Pennsylvania Jones said:

CP3S said:

Pennsylvania Jones said:

I'm not the biggest fan of the prince calling him an ass EVERY SINGLE TIME HE REFERS TO HIM!!!

I know! The Prince is such as jerk, how dare he call the animal what it is...

I have a funny feeling that if Puzzle was a duck, and the prince constantly referred to him as "duck" every single time, it wouldn't bother you in the slightest, would it?

Ass is considered a cuss word.  Duck isn't.  And neither is donkey.

This isn't going to turn into a fight, is it?  I'm not in the mood to start a forum war. >:(

C-3PS edited:

In other words, I assume your problem doesn't stem from the prince not taking the time to learn Puzzle's name, or his lack of creativity apparent by failing to call him a wider variety of names, but from the fact that in American English "ass" also happens to be a dirty word and you are uncomfortable with reading it in a children's book.

Yes, that is the problem.  And I don't want to get into a damn fight!

 

Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! I'm not picking any fights here! You can remove your hand from your sword hilt!

I think you need to know that:

Ass: A donkey

Arse: What you sit with

 

To the writer and his original audience, he was not using a cuss word or trying to be "cute" by using a word with a double meaning. I have heard far too many Americans complain about Lewis being a bit too vulgar at times, or roll their eyes at his sense of humor in disguising this dirty word to make it seem legit so he could have a good chuckle. You'll find the word "ass" in the KJV Bible too. What were the translators thinking!?!

They were thinking that an ass is an animal, and not only that, but the more commonly used name for that particular animal. Same thing Lewis was thinking when he wrote The Last Battle.

You can't blame either of them for the Americans trying to simplify things by decided that the two words (with two separate etymologies at that!) should be spelled exactly the same way, which, unsurprisingly caused people to eventually shy away from calling an ass an ass to avoid confusion with the mildly vulgar arse they turned into ass. So now it is called a donkey.

So, C. S. Lewis and other British children's author who have used that word in their books cannot be blamed for the crimes of the language butchers across the ocean.

 

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#527394
Topic
What are you reading?
Time

Pennsylvania Jones said:

I'm not the biggest fan of the prince calling him an ass EVERY SINGLE TIME HE REFERS TO HIM!!!

I know! The Prince is such as jerk, how dare he call the animal what it is...

I have a funny feeling that if Puzzle was a duck, and the prince constantly referred to him as "duck" every single time, it wouldn't bother you in the slightest, would it?

In other words, I assume your problem doesn't stem from the prince not taking the time to learn Puzzle's name, or his lack of creativity apparent by failing to call him a wider variety of names, but from the fact that in American English "ass" also happens to be a dirty word and you are uncomfortable with reading it in a children's book.

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#526906
Topic
Video Games - a general discussion thread
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FremenDar said:

Nice being a hypocrite especially since this is in fact a video game thread. Pot meet kettle.

Not quite the same thing. 

Yeah, I am posting in a video games thread, sometimes I even play the things, but that doesn't mean I obsess over them, or, say, get extremely orgasmic when talking about my amazing super computer with 178 games install on the hard drive. If you have enough time on your hands to feel the need to own 178 games, let alone have them all installed on your hard drive at once (finding and installing all those games must have taken a good deal of time on its own), then you might need to take some time to consider all the other great things life has to offer.

Games are a great platform for immersive storytelling, and can occasionally be a great escape from the stresses of real life. I find them a good way to turn my brain off on occasion, and they're much cheaper, safer, and healthier than alcohol. But much like with alcohol, there still needs to be some moderation involved. If someone told me they had 178 bottles of liquor stocked up in their home, I'd have to assume they have a bit of a drinking problem on their hands.

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#526701
Topic
How would YOU re-do the prequels?
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You realize they were "misnumbered" from the since the late 70's right? With the prequels not coming along until the late 90's.We lived with it for that long, we could have lived with it forever.

 

Like Fink said, it was one of the cool unique things about Star Wars.

Kind of like you are coming into the fourth chapter of a serial, and much like in the days George grew up in, if you missed it, there was no such thing as home video to check out in order to catch up.

Every story ever written has to have a beginning and an ending, but that beginning and that ending are never really the beginning or the end. The story always has to suggest things that came before, and once it is over, if it was a story that interested you enough, you'll always be left wondering what happened after.

Star Wars was kind of nifty in its honesty that you are coming into the middle of a story. You missed all sorts of big important events that are mentioned in passing throughout the trilogy, but yet we never get to see them; instead the entire trilogy shows us the aftermath of the events that came before. We are introduced to a tattered and torn civilization that has now been overrun by a militant dictatorship. While we are told that things were once great, and the galaxy was once protected by valiant heroes, much like the main protagonist who is too young to remember these things himself, all we get to see is the aftermath of their defeat. We get got to experience the sense of awe and wonder regarding the past right along with Luke.

Lucas started the story in the perfect place. We got to learn about the universe and grow with Luke. In the prequels, we are just dropped into this massive ocean of silliness, a convoluted and silly plot no one can really wrap their head around (mostly because it continually changed as it was being written), and wouldn't make sense even if they could (okay, so if you are really, really, really determined you can, but it takes great effort and the ability and willingness to shut down the majority of your brains processing power). We drop into the story as if into the middle of a conversation, and unlike the original trilogy, as the story unfold we are still never given an inkling of what that conversation was really ever suppose to be about.

 

 

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#526641
Topic
Last web series/tv show seen
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ChainsawAsh said:

Also, are you watching the English dubs or Japanese with English subtitles?  The dub of Bebop isn't bad, but I'd recommend watching either FMA series in Japanese.  I can't stand the dubs for those.

They are the English dubs. My friend has the entire run of the original FMA with English subs and audio tracks in Japanese and English, but he only have the English dubs of Brotherhood.

After watching those few episodes of Brotherhood, I watched the very first episode of the original FMA and kind of liked how much more adult it felt. The violence was much more gruesome and less stylized too. My friend told me not to even consider messing with the original FMA, because of how crappy it gets after it diverts from the manga.

Hmm, sounds like I need to watch episode 5 of Cowboy Beebop. Cowboy Beebop was really disappointing, because after having it described to me I really wanted to like it. Sounds like I might have given up on it one episode or so too soon.