You know, I kind of like being able to critisize the government and not have to ever worry about being sued because people generally dislike what I'm saying and accuse me of slander.
So, again, how about true freedom of speech? Let's ditch looking for loopholes and digging for reasons to give up that freedom. I, for one, would really like to hang onto that freedom.
I liked Children of Men, good stuff.
Going to try to talk my friends into watching Don Hertzfeldt's It's Such a Beautiful Day (2012) when we get together tonight. I always really loved Hertzfeldt's Rejected, which I think was introduced to me on this site via Nanner... For some reason I started thinking about Rejected today and decided to check out some of Hertzfeldt's other stuff. Looks like he has gone onto be pretty successful.
Warbler said:
perhaps I should have said "quality, nonbiased, trained mental experts, like psychologists and Psychiatrists?
and again, what about slander?
Again, what about freedom of speech?
TV's Frink said:
CP3S said:
So, haha, clearly it is Alex Jones who is responsible for the Boston Marathon Bombing!!!That's clearly not what I was saying. All I was saying is you can't automatically assume he's harmless.
It wasn't clearly not what you were saying, it is exactly what your link was suggesting (which is what I was commenting on), with you making no more comment on the whole thing than a simple, "not necessarily". Just saying, it is hard to know exactly what you were trying to say, but the link you linked to was as ungrounded, and speculative as any crazy conspiracy theory.
Warbler said:
CP3S said:
But don't you realize how dangerous your line of thinking is here? You disagree with what he is saying, so you say he is "truly insane" and needs to be locked up for his own safety.
incorrect there are many people whom I disagree whom I wouldn't say are truly insane and needs to be locked up.
How about we have trained mental experts examine Alex Jones and let them decide if he is completely crazy?
Because I wouldn't trust these trained mental experts. Maybe these same trained mental experts would decide I too am certifiable and lock me up if someone found something I say distasteful. How about we just support the freedom of speech in our country?
TV's Frink said:
CP3S said:
I'm more than content to have guys like Alex Jones on the air, he is harmless.
Not necessarily.
http://deadspin.com/the-tsarnaev-brothers-allegedly-followed-9-11-conspirac-476607277
That "article" is little more than some wild speculation. But this is what I think it is trying to say:
There is a blog post from a former customer of the Boston Bombers' mother. In this blog post the blogger explains how the family was very religious, followed the Koran (a book which was written as a recruitment tool, and ultimately teaches that Muslims are at war with all non-Muslims), and were pretty strict in following doctrine.
BUT the mother also mentioned that she believes 9/11 was a conspiracy done to make Muslims look bad, and that she learned this from her boys who learned about it and showed it to her on the internet. So, haha, clearly it is Alex Jones who is responsible for the Boston Marathon Bombing!!! HAHAHA, take that you evil conspiracy assholenuts! Your ramblings about Muslims not killing people (because the government did it) are causing Muslims to really kill people!
WTF? So yeah, Alex Jones AND the person who wrote that article Fink linked to are absolute nutters, but totally harmless. And I am happy I live in a country where they can wildly speculate to their hearts content.
Warbler said:
free speech doesn't seem to stop laws suits for slander.
CP3S, did you look at this video?
You Can't Make This Up. Oh Wait, YOU CAN!
Alex Jones is completely nuts. If he seriously believes the stuff is he is spewing, he is truly insane. Even though we have free speech, we institutionalize the extremely insane for their own protection.
I listen to Alex Jones sometimes when I am road tripping and bored, I find it entertaining and amusing. So yes, I know what he is all about and how ridiculous he is, and that some people take him completely seriously.
But don't you realize how dangerous your line of thinking is here? You disagree with what he is saying, so you say he is "truly insane" and needs to be locked up for his own safety. You could apply that in so many cases to snuff out freedom.
Sometimes radicalism can be revolutionary in a positive way. Imagine if prior to the civil war you had someone in the south hammering on to people about how black people should be free, allowed to vote, own property, and have every single right that any other person in the United States has. You can imagine a lot of people back then would have been saying that he is truly insane and needs to be locked up for his own safety and those around him.
I'm more than content to have guys like Alex Jones on the air, he is harmless. Yes, some nutjobs will cling to him and hang on his words, but the majority of people know it is nuts. That would really suck if every time someone didn't meet the status quo in their teachings, beliefs, ramblings, whatever, they were at risk of being tossed in a padded room with a straight jacket. This has happened plenty throughout history, let's not even entertain that kind of thinking on this soil.
Don't worry, Warb, I am pretty sure Alex Jones will be okay and doesn't need us to protect him from himself by having him institutionalized.
Warbler said:
they need to put a straight jacket on Alex Jones and lock him up in a padded cell.
No thanks. I'd rather have my freedom of speech, and the security of being able to say and believe what I want without fear of being put in a straight jacket and thrown in a padded cell just because someone disagrees with me, or thinks the things I say are crazy.
Love it, or hate it, Alex Jones is a great example of what makes America kind of awesome. America misses more than she hits, she needs all the awesome she can get her hands on.
zombie84 said:
Darth_Ender, are you aware that there is a Phase II fan film series that is actually quite well funded and has had some of the original cast members on it? They have used some of the original scripts and designs. It began as a series called New Voyages I think, but they changed it to a re-creation of Phase II halfway into it.
But it is campy as crap, and is horribly acted. Despite being well funded, and having original cast members making guest appearances, they feel like mediocre fan films. The writing is really awful too. It would be pretty cool if it wasn't such an amateur feeling production.
Don't come around here no more! Whatever you're lookin' for! HEY!
I've given up!
STOP!
Funny Games (2007)
Wow. I don't even...
I'm not sure if I thought is was brilliant, or absolute sadistic crap. Which I think means it met its objective. But still, I am at a complete less of what to rate this.
Thinking about it a little more, I think I have to give it
4 out of 8 broken eggs.
Would you be talking about the season 7 episode titled Masks, Bingo?
I am pretty sure The Inner Light is my all time favorite TNG episode. I find the whole concept really interesting.
I totally ripped it off in a short story I wrote many years back, where a man gets in a fight with his wife, goes out for a walk to cool off, stumbles into a large hole at a nearby construction site, wakes up, and the next thing he knows he is being chased down by an army of ogres, scooped up, thrown into a cage with a bunch of other humans, and sold off as a slave. For the first few years in this fantasy-esque world he is bent on getting home, but eventually becomes invested in his new life, writes off his old life as some weird vivid dream or fantasy, joins in a slave uprising, raises a family, lives to a ripe old age, and one morning wakes up in a deep hole at a construction site, just as discombobulated as the first time around, suddenly finding himself back in a strange existence he hardly even remembers and desperately wishing he could get back.
zombie84 said:
BTW, who here saw the intro with The Hobbit? How awesome was that? We all wanted the movie to continue! Luckily The Hobbit was a worthy successor. The 3D effects in ST made everyone in the audience duck, with all those spears flying in our faces. Loved it. I regret seeing the first film once, and this so far looks to one-up it in every way.
I saw the ST:ID clip at the beginning of The Hobbit. Maybe it is just my prejudice of distaste for the first film, but I was really bored during it and remember thinking, I'm about to sit through a three hour long movie, why do I have to be subjected to an extra ten minutes of sitting for this crap?
The spears being thrown "through the screen" was kind of cool, and I do remember people in the audience ducking, and what sounded like an older woman even let out a bit of a shriek. But is it really that much different than 3D gimmicks in any other movie? Isn't something flying out into your face pretty standard with every single 3D movie being made currently?
thejediknighthusezni said:
^?!?!?!?! HALF THE POPULATION IS BEING SYSTEMATICALLY CONVINCED TO HAAATTTTEEE WHITE CHRISTIAN MALES IN A VICIOUS AND DISCRIMATORY WAY!!! It's empowering the TOTALITARIAN left to destroy EVERYTHING that has made this nation great and good and decent!!! It is enabling our foreign enemies to acquire WPM to give to terrorists to destroy American cities!! You think that crap isn't ripping apart the families of white Christians and making their lives impossible?!?!?
"A vicious and discriminatory way"? "Totalitarian left?"
Wow. You are more of a nutter than FF (no offense FF, I love you man). I don't think you have even the slightest clue what discrimination is, or what it is like to be discriminated against in any kind of a significant way. Totalitarian? Now I know you have no clue what that word means. Ridiculous, man. Come on.
It is people like you who totally destroy the credit of the right, regardless of creed or color. There are a lot of things about conservatism I used to be really fond of, but over the past few years I have found myself feeling the need to dissociate with the likes of people like you, who seem to continually seep out of the woodwork.
A few years ago I never thought I would say it, but conservatism holds far more wrong than right for me. You throw out even the most wholesome loaf of bread when you find it festering with maggots, and so it is becoming for the entire right wing movement.
Listen to yourself, man! Every word you said in the above post is dripping with absolute crazy! You don't need the so called, "totalitarian left" twisting things to make you sound like a lunatic, you provide everything anyone needs for convincing all on your own. The sad thing is, you don't even know how crazy you sound right now, and the credibility you lose for your ridiculous hyperbolic ramblings you'll blame on the left wing media.
Tell me, if you care to, a few examples of white Christian families being "torn apart" and their lives made "impossible"?
Bingowings said:
I wonder how many trampolines we will lose this time?
27 and one eighth. Just peanuts really, when you consider all the trampolines in Scotland.
The closest I've ever gotten to that was this girl I met while working a crummy retail job in a small bookstore, pending word on a real job. She was really hot, but what I didn't realize at the time was she was also batshit crazy. Elizabeth in Bioshock Infinite kind of creeps me out because she really resembles this girl, right down to the facial structure, build, eyes, lips, dimples, and even the facial expressions. We hooked up several times, she had just gotten out of a divorce and didn't want anything serious, which was perfect for me. Long story short, she changed her mind about the serious relationship part and would show up at the bookstore all the time asking for me. It got a little creepy.
The coffee and rose thing was actually something that really happened to this girl I used to be really close too. We dated for over a year, realized we meshed really well on a select few really great aspects, and not so much in just about every other way, and began seeing other people while remaining "friends with benefits". She went on a couple of dates with this one guy, realized she had zero interest in him, and subtly tried to shake him, and by subtly, I mean ignoring his phone calls, making excuses every time he asked her out for over a month, and never responding to his texts, and even explicitly telling him he seems like he'd make a nice friend. She didn't want to hurt his feeling by outright saying she wasn't interested.
Anyway, I spent the night one night, and as she was getting ready for work at six am the next morning, she got a call from him. Since it was an odd time for a phone call, she answered rather than ignoring it like she had been. He told her he was in her parking lot waiting for her and had bought her coffee. That is incredibly creepy, and it kind of freaked me out. She told him she was busy, that it was really weird to show up at someone's place that early in the morning, and he had to leave NOW! Twenty minutes later she was ready for work. We totally expected he'd be gone by this time, we walked out of her apartment together as a car approached us, she muttered, "Ugh, that's him" and grabbed my hand. He drove past with an awkward (probably pained) smile on his face. With her hand in mine, he and I made eye contact, I gave him a wide mischievous grin and nodded at him.
Aaaand, he still kept trying to contact her for the next few weeks before finally giving up. He'd did other creepy things before that, like leaving roses on her doorstep.
That stuff can be totally romantic, if you are in a mutual relationship with someone, or if they are actually into you, otherwise it is just plain scary and desperate.
Someone is smoking something!
Ordered five tacos from Taco Bell for me and a friend. Got four packets of sauce this time. Guess the manager told them to cut back since the last time I was there.
Warbler said:
If you say so.
Before just writing off what I said with a Mexican food order, why not rebuttal with something productive, like telling me when the last time a production not featuring major stars won an Oscar in a category other than "short film", "foreign film", or "documentary".
Warbler said:
I am willing to bet if the movie had used the kind of cast that used in 25th anniversary concert, it would have won best picture.
Not a chance! If it wouldn't have had big name actors in it, the Oscars wouldn't have even payed it a bit of attention. It is as much a popularity contest as it is anything else.
Just started watching In the Flesh. Nothing spectacular, but I am kind of enjoying it. With tons of stories involving zombies to chose from these days (too many, and mostly crap), it is kind of interesting to get a different angle on the whole thing, involving cured reformed zombies trying to reintegrate into society.
The friend-zone, if you are the sort of person that has friends who wish you wouldn't be standing outside their door holding a cup of coffee and a rose at 6am to wish them a good day at work.
Bingowings said:
Not that anyone has done this here but I do get annoyed when people call a genuine one sided emotional bond a crush.
In the American vernacular, at least, that is exactly what a crush is, a one-sided emotional bond. Or is the situation you are describing one where a person has let the other one know how they feel, find they do not feel the same way in return, and yet still cling on and keep trying? If that is the case, I agree. That is something very different from a crush, more of a creepy stalker situation.
"MAKE THE TIME!"
Interesting results.
AntcuFaalb said:
CP3S said:
Second, celebrity crushes aren't viable crushes
Not entirely true. Mike Verta was married to Danica McKellar (Winnie Cooper from The Wonder Years) for a while. They had a son together.
Lol, I wasn't suggesting female celebrities are sworn to celibacy and have their ovaries removed and their vaginas sewn shut. Obviously someone gets to date them.
I'd love to hear one story of a celebrity meeting and falling in love with an obsessive fan who had a crush on them (who wasn't also famous, or a member of the industry themselves). Either way, I don't think it is doing DuracellEnergizer any good bemoaning that he was born in the wrong decade, and agonizing over the fact that the his aged versions of his celebrity crushes no longer exist.
Ugh, just using the word "crush" repeatedly in this conversation is making me feel strangely infantile.