I want a R.O.B.!
I gave my Power Pad away a few years ago. Too hard to store the thing and tote it around. Before I open my console museum, I'll need to get my hands on another.
Warbler said:
zombie84 said:
Teenage kids have now grown up that you can have an intelligent conversation with who have never known what it is like to experience a time when Al Queda was an aggressor.
that is 1000000000000% bullshit.
How is that bullshit? It is true. You're not still pissed off about Pearl Harbor, are you, Warb? Someone who was five when 9/11 happened, is sixteen. Ten year olds at the time are now of legal drinking age.
I work with kids in these age ranges. None of them talk about Al Qaeda or 9/11. A lot don't even really remember much of the events. When the Boston Marathon bombing happened, the first thing they thought of wasn't "OMG! Islamic terrorists!" It was, "Crap, another psycho!"
zombie84 said:
There are over 70,000 people killed in a mild genocide in Syria over the past year and a half that is the worst tragedy since Rwanda that requires your more immediate outrage and attention.
you don't think I care about what is happening in Syria? you are sadly mistaken.
He isn't saying you don't care, he is saying that 9/11 was pushing twelve years ago and you are still enraged and freaked out by it, while things like the events in Syria are easily a multitude more horrific, but it isn't near as big of a deal to you as 9/11.
But obviously, if someone is murdered on a doorstep on the other side of town, or in another state, the other side of the continent, or in another country, it doesn't have near the impact on you as someone murdered on your own doorstep. Zombie is kind of ignoring this phenomena.
zombie84 said:
If 9/11 fills you with rage, Boston makes you upset, then Syria should give you a full blown stroke. Unless you feel "they don't count" then all of this needs to be put into perspective.
zombie84 said: In the list of world tragedy's, 9/11 is a fart.
go fuck yourself. why don't you go out and by yourself an Al Qaeda tee-shirt and ball cap.
I am putting you on ignore. I am done talking with you.
Shit, Warb.
zombie84 said:
Warbler, I said 9/11 was isolated when it came to American soil. It is. Even though foreign embassies have had attacks committed against them, as far as United States citizens living in the borders of the United States, 9/11 was a one-time deal. That's a fact.
That's not a fact. Not too many years before 9/11 there was a botched attempt at bombing the World Trade Center via a truck loaded with explosives in the parking garage. Only a small handful of people were killed, but over a thousand were injured. Not isolated.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_World_Trade_Center_bombing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1977_Hanafi_Siege
There are over 70,000 people killed in a mild genocide in Syria over the past year and a half that is the worst tragedy since Rwanda that requires your more immediate outrage and attention. If 9/11 fills you with rage, Boston makes you upset, then Syria should give you a full blown stroke. Unless you feel "they don't count" then all of this needs to be put into perspective. In the list of world tragedy's, 9/11 is a fart.
I very much agree with this.
I didn't live in America at the time of 9/11, or the few years preceding and following it, and I've always had a really hard time relating to Americans on it. I remember the event even put an end to my email correspondences with my friends in the US (all of which I've never reconnected with), right after this happened every email I got was so filled with hatred and rage, I just stopped emailing them back. It was this ignorant disdain for all things non-American, especially eastern, and it was really dumb sounding and annoying. Lots of ragging on the French too.
Perhaps you had to have been there. I don't think I'll ever be able to understand the rage Americans have when they speak about 9/11. It was horrific, but so few people died, so many violent acts have happened before and since that have claimed so many more innocent lives (including our stupid wars) and we forget about them moments after hearing about them.
Yeah, I've never kissed a French girl. It's hard to get over all that body hair. ;)
thejediknighthusezni said:
They still haven't fingered any white males ...
Gross.
I stopped reading it after Adywans first post when I reread it before my last post, just now I read more, and the discussion goes on for longer than I thought it did. It is stupid, especially since the OP asked for people's thoughts on who it might have been. You merely said that would be your guess. Hardly anything harmful, considering Al Qaeda is a terrorist organization that prides itself for killing civilians, they are more than fair game.
I've known a few conspiracy theory types, and it is true, it is kind of a game to them. They're disaster junkies looking to connect the dots in everything, like some puzzle. But, that doesn't mean they don't care about the deaths that are happening, or don't have the same feelings of shock and disgust as you do about these violent situations. They just attribute the cause to a different source than you do, and jump to conclusions. The ones who think these are false flags are pretty disgusted and pissed off over them.
Of course, you have those others who think these are faked and that kids didn't actually die. Maybe this is just their way of coping with these horrible realities. Choosing believe in a fantasy world where an evil government is faking this stuff to control us, over a world where someone might randomly kill a bunch of our kids for no reason and never explains why.
Also, rereading the first page of this thread, I don't think people jumped all over you and called you racist. A Canadian guy who apparently thinks Al-Qaeda is a race, if he was in fact responding to your comment, said it is almost borderline racist to automatically assume it was a Muslim organization rather than consider the possibility that it might be homegrown. That was one person, not people, and he wasn't exactly accusing you of racism.
Adywan was the other one that "jumped all over you", and his wasn't really anything harsh either. He was just sharing his opinion that he feels it was premature to assume foreign terrorists, when we have plenty of issues with public violence right here on the home front.
In both cases, it was just someone stating their opposing opinion. Why are differing opinions and views so threatening to you? From getting defensive when someone feels your view is wrong, to cussing out fellow forum members when they hold a view you find distasteful, to wanting to lock up Alex Jones because you can't stand him.
I do find it amusing that now that the bombers were found to have been Muslims, and rather serious ones at that, we are trying to focus in on the fact that they were 9/11 truthers and make that the significant factor. It is all about avoiding a touchy subject, and trying to toss the muck onto a target nobody minds seeing muck thrown at.
Any ideology that teaches that some lives are worth less than others, is a very dangerous thing. Cultural sensitivity be damned. There is ultimately no defense for such a backward way of thinking, and those who hold such ideologies, as history has not so kindly demonstrated again and again, can be quite dangerous. I find that way of thinking far more dangerous than someone dreaming up and preaching silly conspiracies theories about lizard people and false flags.
I won't be surprised if my post gets a lot of negative reaction. One reason I assume the one in the religion thread isn't getting a reaction, is because it is kind of long and people aren't reading it.
But, everything in my post is really hard to argue with. It is all true, and most people know it is true, but it just sounds so wrong and incorrect to say it.
I don't know if there is anything that has suggested there is going to be some sort of twist or suprise. J.J. always keeps his stuff pretty secretive. There may not be any big surprise, and he is just trying to keep the storyline from getting out.
If the current spoilers are accurate, I feel like they will ruin the film as much after the movie is seen as they will before seeing the movie. They are really godawful and stupid.
This is fun.
Video toward the bottom of page.
FanFiltration said:
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Arrrg. Now I will never know what you said, and it will drive me crazy.
I don't believe the spoilers that are going around for this post Sydney screening. Sounds too silly. I think it is a safe bet they are BS. If they are accurate, this movie may just be worse than the first one.
Of course, I thought something similar when plot details for the Lost season three finale, Through the Looking Glass, were leaked (only then I thought the leaked plot was too awesome to be true), but they turned out to be spot on.
I used to have a Power Pad when I was a kid. It was a ton of fun when you had a bunch of friends over. I remember it would always slide along the carpet, and sneak its way over the bricks in front of the fireplace without anyone noticing until someone would stomp their foot down on the corner of the bricks and cry out in pain, then we'd all get off and reposition it. Anytime I think of the Power Pad, I always associate it with the pain of stomping on the corner of the damn brick.
I only ever played two games on it, World Class Track Meet (exact same game as the above Stadium Events, only rebranded after Nintendo purchased it from Bandai, which is why an actual copy of Stadium Events is so rare and valuable now), and Super Team Games. Super Team Games was my favorite, mostly for quirky things like the crab walk, the bubble bounce thing, tug-o-war, and especially skate boarding.
TV's Frink said:
From the Religion thread but more appropriate here...
CP3S said:
I was thinking a little bit more about this link Fink posted in the Boston Marathon Bombing thread: http://deadspin.com/the-tsarnaev-brothers-allegedly-followed-9-11-conspirac-476607277
In short, it is someone going on about how ridiculous Alex Jones is for his wild conspiracy theories, crazy speculation, and how quick he is to jump to conclusions. The author links to a blog post made by a woman who knew the bombers' mother and retells how their mother believed that 9/11 was done by the US to make Islam look bad and justify war. The author then goes on to do exactly what he condemns Alex Jones for and wildly speculates that maybe the reason these guys did it wasn't because they were Islamic fundamentalists, but because they were paying back America for the evil America has done to them with framing Muslims for 9/11.
Yeah. At least Alex Jones is talented enough to make his wild speculation seem plausible, in a convoluted crazy sort of way.
Follow up:
http://deadspin.com/report-boston-bombing-suspect-was-a-9-11-truther-478631719
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/bomb-suspect-influenced-mysterious-radical
Yup. He was a 9/11 truther. So?
The associated press article you linked to also explained that he had a close friend who steered him toward a "strict stand of Islam". Of course, it probably is more likely that it was his trutherism that drove him to do it.
That was actually another thing I was going to comment on in my post in the Religion thread today, but left out. I think it is a major failure of liberals that they try so hard to defend Islam. Let it all drop. We don't need it, and there is no reason to defend it in the name of multiculturalism. Antiquated harmful old religions don't need our defense. Sure, be accepting of this cultural background, but we can do that without defending and condoning (there is nothing wrong with wearing a burka if it is your choice, but it is very wrong to force others to wear them, or to inflict pain and suffering upon them if they refuse to comply). Statements like, "it is a beautiful religion of peace" are complete bullshit. A beautiful religion doesn't treat their women like second class people and require them to cover their heads and faces in public. There is nothing beautiful about that.
Since everyone is saying Hide is pretty good, I am going to skip the last couple of episodes and give it a shot.
the voyage homo
I was thinking a little bit more about this link Fink posted in the Boston Marathon Bombing thread: http://deadspin.com/the-tsarnaev-brothers-allegedly-followed-9-11-conspirac-476607277
In short, it is someone going on about how ridiculous Alex Jones is for his wild conspiracy theories, crazy speculation, and how quick he is to jump to conclusions. The author links to a blog post made by a woman who knew the bombers' mother and retells how their mother believed that 9/11 was done by the US to make Islam look bad and justify war. The author then goes on to do exactly what he condemns Alex Jones for and wildly speculates that maybe the reason these guys did it wasn't because they were Islamic fundamentalists, but because they were paying back America for the evil America has done to them with framing Muslims for 9/11.
Yeah. At least Alex Jones is talented enough to make his wild speculation seem plausible, in a convoluted crazy sort of way.
Anyway, the blogger also goes on a good deal about how religious they were, which seems like a kind of an important point for the author of that article to ignore.
This got me thinking. I'm generally very harsh on Islam, while I tend to let Christianity slide quite a bit. While ultimately, I feel we'd be better off without either one of them, I tend to be far more defensive of Christianity than I sometimes feel I should be. Which always leads me to ask myself, is it just ethnocentrism? Probably to a good degree it is. I have close friends who are both Muslim and Christian, but I was raised Christian, my family, relatives, and closest friends are Christians. It would be almost impossible not to be biased. But even so, I try to be as fair as possible.
Why is it fair that I feel Christianity has redeeming factors, and at the same time feel that Islam has none? I've lived in one primarily Islamic country, and traveled through many others, and have seen misogyny, homophobia, and violence in those places directly associated with their religion. It is backwards and disgusting, and very real and prevalent, even today. The Judeo-Christian culture is certainly guilty of the same crimes, and plenty of others. So where is the redeeming factor?
Bingowings hit this nail on the head for me. Not too long ago he described his fondness for Jesus and his teachings, stating that Jesus is his Buddha. And there is where I find the redeeming factor in Christianity. Jesus was pretty badass, he taught his followers to clothe the naked, feed the hungry, and visit the sick and imprisoned. He was all about sacrifice and benevolence. He was all about turning the world upside down and doing the unexpected, selfless good, when all reason pointed to the opposite.
While Muhammad carried around a big ass sword and spread violence in the name of God, Jesus led around a group of lowlifes: fishermen, assassins, thieves, whores, and tax collectors, the dregs of society, and he personally showed them a selfless way of life and rubbed it in the faces of the pious. He practically showed the status quo the middle finger, while living his life for others, and urging everyone around him to do the same. Real or not (probably not), Jesus is absolutely one of the coolest figures ever depicted on any medium.
Islam doesn't have that. Maybe someday we'll be able to toss out all these crumby Judeo-Christian religions, leave all their backwards and harmful teachings buried in the past, but still keep the tradition of Jesus alive.
Maybe once I beat Bioshock Infinite, I'll finally make the time to watch Django Unchained. Been dying to watch that movie, I even have it, just haven't been able to find the time. Any movie watching these days takes place with friends, and it turns out I'm the only person I know who hasn't seen it yet.
New Tarantino and new Bioshock were two things entertainment wise I've been the most excited about over the last year, and I'm way behind on the both of them.
Spent the day playing Bioshock Infinite. Phew, my head hurts from playing for several hours straight... But whoa, I love this game! I didn't keep up on it during development other than basic stuff, and I have managed to avoid all spoilers, so a lot of the stuff popping up in it is completely unexpected to me (I knew a bit about the tears and the anachronistic music). I'm almost to the Comstock House, so I imagine I am getting pretty close to the end of the game. Probably knock the rest out later tonight or tomorrow.
Nope, I think he meant The Voyage Homo.
Here's a trailer:
That's intense! I probably get to watch about 3-4 movies a month.
DuracellEnergizer said:
Mimic 2 (2001)
What Lies Beneath (2000)
Bad Moon (1996)
Caravan of Courage: An Ewok Adventure (1984)
Buried Alive (1990)
Tales from the Crypt: Demon Knight (1995)
Mute Witness (1994)
Urban Legend (1998)The Pagemaster (1994)
Darkness Falls (2003)
The Missing (2003)
Tower of Terror (1997)
A Nightmare on Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors (1987)Coal Black and de Sebben Dwarfs (1943)
The Mist (2007)
The Ninth Gate (1999)
Alien Hunter (2003)
The Thing (1982)
Halloween (2007)
The Strangers (2008)
The Hitcher (2007)
Trick 'r Treat (2007)
Supergirl (1984)The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (2003)
The Fog (2005)
The Butterfly Effect 2 (2006)
Drag Me to Hell (2009)
Did you really watch twenty-seven movies over this last week?
Well, I'm just glad I don't live in the country you wish the US was.
Parents were in town the other day. My mom really wanted to see my place, so I cleaned it up real well and discreetly tucked away anything that might lead to uncomfortable questions.
Some freaking how I left my damn wookee on my bed and didn't notice it. She did and asked, "What's that?"
"Uh, I was bored the other day and there just happened to be a toilet paper roll and some dryer sheets in arms reach..."
She laughed and shook her head at my juvenility. Phew, I would have never heard the end of that...
Easy solution: Don't tune into him. You don't have to stand him, or even hear a word he says. Problem solved, no breaking down the integrity of out freedom of speech needed. Yay.