C3PX

To me the opening of For Your Eyes Only always made me think something like this must have taken place in the writer's room:

Writer A: You know, don't you think Blofeld is kind of a tired old villain?
Writer B: But he is Bond's arch nemesis! Who else is Bond going to go after?
Writer A: That is my point! He is over used. How many movies does it take to kill one freaking bad guy? We need fresh new villains!
Writer B: We can't just toss him out and forget about him! He's Blofeld!
Writer C: Guys, guys, guys! I've got an idea! Let's kill him off in the opening sequence. Blofeld storyline closed, and we can all move on.
Writers A & B: Brilliant!

sean wookie said:

C3PX said:

Bingowings said:

It may also be a fun experiment to chuck out all those nasty laws against seafood, tattoos and clothes of more than one twine that sort of thing.

Then like I said, might as well toss the whole thing. That is like wanting to read the Qur'an with all the versus regarding etiquette in wife beating and the killing of infidels removed. Or reading the owner's manual for your car with all the bits about the importance of changing your oil removed. Those "nasty laws" such as not eating shrimp, pork, or other foods (which I fail to see as "nasty" in any way) and the practice of male genital mutilation (which I find particularly nasty), were an integral part of that religion.

 

Hmm, if you really want to know what is going on in what you read, Sean, the KJV isn't the way to go. How does the 3G work on that Kindle? Still has experimental web browsing, right? Then you could just load biblegateway.com and view just about any version you could want.

It has expiramental web browsing but it needs a lot of work (it sucks). The 3G is fine I really have no problem with it. The book functions wouldn't work on the web browser.

I like to get it on an EPUB or a PDF, something I can convert for the Kindle. 

I ordered a free physical bible from the Mormon Church.  I think we have a few at home plus tons of Jehovah's Witness books (my Grandmas). Though I believe it might be the JW translation.

The Mormons give out the KJV, so it will be the same thing you got from Gutenberg. There has got to be fully downloadable versions of more modern translations someplace on the web.

As for hard copies, I can dig through my books and see if I can find a decent one for you, if you like. I think I have a TNIV around someplace.

EDIT: Found one for download. The New English Translation is really good, has a few quirks, but it is quite accurate and pretty easy to read. Comes in a large variety of formats, ought to be able to find one that is easily converted to Kindle.

http://bible.org/article/net-bible-download

Bingowings said:

It may also be a fun experiment to chuck out all those nasty laws against seafood, tattoos and clothes of more than one twine that sort of thing.

Then like I said, might as well toss the whole thing. That is like wanting to read the Qur'an with all the versus regarding etiquette in wife beating and the killing of infidels removed. Or reading the owner's manual for your car with all the bits about the importance of changing your oil removed. Those "nasty laws" such as not eating shrimp, pork, or other foods (which I fail to see as "nasty" in any way) and the practice of male genital mutilation (which I find particularly nasty), were an integral part of that religion.

Hmm, if you really want to know what is going on in what you read, Sean, the KJV isn't the way to go. How does the 3G work on that Kindle? Still has experimental web browsing, right? Then you could just load biblegateway.com and view just about any version you could want.

Bingowings said:

The film I would love to see is Vincent Ward's Alien 3 because that would have really have been a visual departure from the first film and a completely unique story (but I'd have to jump through the dimension gate to find it).

Talking about things like this make me sad. So many great things that could have been that are constantly being ruined by studio interference.

However, from all I read about the Vincent Ward version of Alien 3, it seems much of it remained in the actual filmed version. Just swapped out monks for prisoners, and had less exciting sets than Ward's would have been, and it really isn't all that different.

You still have Ripley's surviving companions from Aliens dying before the film even starts, you still have Ripley finding herself  a lone woman on a planet/satellite full of bald men, and you still have her getting her head shaved. Eventually monks/prisoners start getting picked off by the alien after not taking Ripley's warnings seriously and start to try to defend themselves from it.

Maybe it would have been better, certainly it would have been as far as visuals are concerned. But I think a lot of the things people hated about Alien 3 would have still been there. Newt and Hicks dying before the film starts, making the ending of Aliens pointless, being one of the biggest complaints I hear about the current Alien 3.

No, it is not weird. Most Christians don't give a shit what their Bible teaches, they just care what their clergy tells them.

TV's Frink said:

sean wookie said:

Every Atheist needs a Bible...

*confused*

I am not a Muslim, but I have a Qur'an on my shelf. I also have a book of Mormon. And even the Apocrypha, though I am not Catholic or Jewish. I love reading Hitchens and Dawkins, though I am not an anti-theist or an Atheist.

Maybe Sean would have been more accurate to say that every well informed Atheist needs a Bible...

Weird to hear you say this, Sean.

I recommend the New Revised Standard Version.

The Jefferson Bible is an interesting little piece of history, but really quite useless. It is basically a "fan edit" of the Gospels, an attempt to make one long narrative from pieces of each and to omit all supernatural references. Essentially, Thomas Jefferson was trying to make a Gospel compatible with Deism; which is kind of silly, because the Gospels are very contrary to philosophy of Deism. It would be kind of like an Atheist today deciding to make an Atheist Bible by removing all references to God and the supernatural. An interesting idea, but if someone feels the need to fan edit the Bible in order to find it suitable for them, I would strongly encourage them just to toss the whole thing out and forget about it. 

If you do get the Jefferson Bible, just be sure to take it for what it is. You wouldn't want to be watching The Phantom Edit while under the impression you are actually watching the theatrical cut of The Phantom Menace.

As for having a Kindle, how is it? I really want one of those new ones.

I have a picture I took during one of my many world travels. Fink mentioned never even looking at his background picture, and so therefore never changing it. I am the same way, so I just found one of the most pleasing, generic, scenery pictures I had taken, a quaint old mountain village someplace no one would know of even if I mentioned its name. It pleases me. Or at least it pleases me to think that it pleases me. 

LL'I

TSOP

REVEWOH

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LEEF

EKIL

!GNITSOP

WERCS

UOY

KNIF

UOY

DIPUTS

WOLLEY

1!!!DRUT

-3PSC

In now particular order, and just off the top of my head:

All Quiet on the Western Front (1930)
War of the Worlds (1953)
Blade Runner
Brazil
Planet of the Apes (1968)
The Day the Earth Stood Still (1951)
Casablanca
Alien (am I the only one who liked Alien better than Aliens?)
Primer
Raiders of the Lost Ark
A Clockwork Orange
Full Metal Jacket

When I first heard about it (around 2006-2007, I believe), I don't think it was optional. I think the first article I read about it was before it was first installed in the airport and people were making a big deal about it, which is probably why it ended up being optional. Not sure what ever became of it or if it ended up in other airports. That article I linked to was pretty old. Since Bingowings was mentioned it a few times, I assumed they took root and were being used at least in the UK, but maybe not. 

While you may not feel it is a very big deal, it is still providing airport security a image of your naked body, and a lot of people are not going to be comfortable with that. I simply do not think that type of invasion of privacy is necessary. It is taking things way too far.

When technology has advanced to the point where the powers that be can develop machines with the power to tell how much hair is on my back, what sized cock ring I am wearing, and whether or not my girlfriend has implants, I think it is time for some hideous turn of events to knock us back a few years. There are some places technology was simply not meant to go, and we are heading there fast.

Gaffer Tape said:

1.  Is this some new high-tech "remove clothes" beam rather than the traditional "I'm a haunted house reject" X-ray machine?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/oct/13/manchester-airport-naked-security-scan

2.  Do they take photographs to keep on record with this new "remove clothes" beam, or does the image only exist for the duration you're walking through it?

Not sure. But I still feel it is far more invasive than necessary.

TV's Frink said:

^Didn't I basically say the same thing?

You did. Sorry, just now read it. Been having trouble finding the time to keep up with this thread.

Thanks for the links Bingo and Id. I'll be looking over those when I get a chance.

Darth Id said:

Anyway, both this and the other thread should be locked. 

...

Please.  9/11 upsets me, as it should any reasonable person.  Let's stick with the space operas, people.

Why would you even come into this thread if you are so uncomfortable talking/reading about this stuff? And why do you feel the need to dictate what others do on here? Stick to whatever threads you like yourself, and don't worry about what anyone else does. "Stick with the space operas" if all you want to do is discuss Star Wars, then I strongly suggest you ONLY go into the Star Wars related sections and not wonder into the off-topic section to tell us we shouldn't be off-topic.

Bingowings said:

C3PX the reason why you haven't heard of an air marshal bringing a plane down is because thankfully there haven't been many cases of one discharging his weapon while the cabin was compressed.

I know. That was the point I was trying to make. Even though we have them up there, they are not bringing down planes. So, statistically speaking, I don't see why you, or anyone else, should be so uncomfortable with the idea of having them up there.

As for the other stuff you said in your post, such as Al-Qeda being made up, it was very interesting. Have any sources on that information?

Gaffer Tape said:

but I have to say it doesn't really bother me if a bunch of strangers want to use their machines to inadvertantly find out what undies I'm wearing or if I'm circumcised or not.

Or if your seven year old son is circumcised or not, how perky your fourteen year old daughter's titties are, whether or not your sixteen year old son is sporting a boner, and what shaped breasts your wife has. I see no reason why this should bother anyone...

Time After Time.

There is nothing to win.

I just wish we could have friendly conversations around here again. Obviously we can't. Condescension seems to be a forum favorite these days.

A B C said:

CP3X, there is always something new to look at. You stick on your 911 ideas. The first links I posted when you asked the first time were not about that please note. Anyway, people used to post in the politics thread will always need some who are not agree to confront their ideas and also to show the complexity of their brain for a simple reason: to exist. Still I'm sure they have the best intentions in the world behind this.

We have one exceptionnal exemple of that not far.

... If you allow me now, I' m gonna take care of my vegetables.

 

Sorry, but you are coming off as a condescending dick. Just because I post in the politics thread, I am obviously quite stupid and single minded, so I need guys like you to come along and challenge me so that I can see the complexity of my own brain, which I am too simple to see otherwise? Very nice A B C.

How often must I look into 9/11 conspiracy theories before my brain can be as complex as yours? Is once every two years enough, or do I have to go at it again annually until I am convinced that the American government are the ones responsible? I looked into that stuff before, and you were offering me nothing new. There is not always something new, and there was nothing new in this case. Same old stuff I have already looked over, but since I did not arrive at the same conclusions as you, I must not be very intelligent or I must have looked at them with a closed mind, apparently.

Regarding your documentary about the bank, and the page you link to, I know those were not about 9/11 because I looked at them. I commented on it and stated that the documentary you linked was actually a very disreputable TV show, and hardly something to take as solid truth. I also said I do agree with some of the things that are said about the banks. I just don't think they orchestrated 9/11.

EDIT: In response to A B C's edit:

I agree that part Warb's argument is pretty weak. It started strong with the idea that millions of people would have to be in on it, especially if we feel the need to claim the BBC was in on it too, which was, as ridiculous as it sounds, actually done in this very thread. It is extremely implausible. But as his argument turned to a less than flattering picture of Bush to drive home the claim that he was too dumb to have planned it, it kind of lost its way. You can make anyone look mentally handicapped by grabbing still frames from moving pictures. 

First off, Bush is actually very smart, he simply isn't a very eloquent public speaker and his stupidity has been played up by the media and by variously forms of entertainment, including comedy sketches and youtube compilations only showing his blunders. You listen to a one on one interview with the guy, and you barely even recognize him as the guy who appeared in ever episode of Saturday Night Live for eight years, or the guy who does nothing but stutter and trip in youtube videos.

Second, he wouldn't have to be smart to be part of a 9/11 conspiracy, he would simply have to be willing. There are plenty of other evil geniuses out there to come up with the ideas.

Have fun watering your vegetables, A B C.

TV's Frink said:

C3PX said:

Woooohooooo! I have successfully joined the ranks of the hiders! Why? Simply to muddle and confuse Fink's mind...

But now I know why you did it, so ultimately you have failed.

Haha! Not anymore you don't! I fixed my fatal error, rendering it unfatal! Haha! I so win!!!

Warbler said:

but there are problems with Air marshals.  What if the terrorist infiltrate the air marshal problem?    What if they kidnap an air marshal, put the air marshal disguise and on one the terrorists?

Arn't you a little short for an air marshal? ;) 

He could be doing that right now, but it has never happened yet.

 

btw, have they actually started to use the "strip xray" machines yet?

They started using them years ago.

Bkev is kind of like... bkev.

Woooohooooo! I have successfully joined the ranks of the hiders! Why? Simply to muddle and confuse Fink's mind...