AdmiralWasabi10191

Why not a 35mm scan of the Japanese audio release in 1080p or 4K? Maybe not.

sebkarlbjork said:

MonkeyLizard10 said:

It will be interesting to see what the colors end up like for JP on this project here.

I have a JP print in hand (which I am running another 4k project for, see other thread) and I can say that the earlier (nothing to do with the new 4k project this thread is about, talking about the original JP 35mm project done in HD) 1080P project versions 1 and 2 (assuming my copies didn’t get messed with and re-encoded in wrong colorspace or something and are the proper original files for the project) colors definitely do not match what I see on the print I have. There is definitely more saturation on the actual print (at least on the particular print I have access to at the moment) and the colors are a different tint, pretty noticeably so. I will also say that the colors are a bit different than I expected. The yellow and red on the jeep are not quite as ultra-saturated as I expected and the red is a touch different shade than expected, although a good bit moreso than on the 1080P original project files I have, and a lot of the vegetation isn’t a rich green but more of a bit kinda yellowish less greeny green (the old project has that too, just even a good deal moreso less saturated for the red on the truck and pink shirts and the green, while also not deep, rich greeny green, is tinted a different way and a bit different than what I see on the print on hand). I don’t know if the print I have on hand even has full richness or not. It seems decent, but I’m not sure it’s quite a week one print. But hard to say, I only did see JP in 35mm back in '93 and only digital ever since so I really don’t remember that sort of detail. After prints get shown a lot, they tend to lose a bit of contrast and saturation and the highlights and brights sometimes get more blown out and run together in a weird way, from what I recall from the 35mm projection days, when you’d often see quite a change from first week or showings to showings a month or two later if they never got a new print. Anyway, the one I have in hand, all the same, still might be richer and less faded than the one scanned for the 1080P project (assuming it’s not just the scanner used or the grading making the difference, which could be). Whatever the reason, the 1080P original project looks a bit dull and faded and with somewhat different tint to colors compared to the tiny bit of the 35mm print I have in hand I just peeked at. It’s really a fair amount different. Anyway, it will be interesting to see how this print and it’s project end up comparing to mine as well as to the original 1080P project.

I compared on a D56 high CRI lightbox directly next to monitor showing the two earlier 1080P project scan .mkv files. Not sure if it is because the print they used was more faded out or maybe processed differently in the film lab or the way the scan got done or graded. The files almost have a look like they were made in P3 or something but treated like they were REC709 primaries sort of deal, but it might just be the particular print, the scanning or grading. (that said still all props to the original 1080P JP project, there’s a lot great about it!)

How does this scanned clip compare to your print?

https://youtu.be/PRmnC1kHOs0

You should ask in that persons thread instead of this one. https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Jurassic-Park-35mm-historical-preservation-project-WIP-earliest-stage/id/100179

Pauln6 said:

I bought the latest boxed set which has a 4k version of the SLV but I have neither a 4k TV nor a 4k player.

What are the odds of getting a version downgraded to HD?

I can’t testify to improved quality because I can’t view it doh.

Get a 4K TV and a 4K player. BOOM, problem solved. Personally because of prior history with random devices, I don’t LG or Panasonic.
With me, I’ve been wanting to import the UK The Director’s Edition which has the SLV on 4K as mentioned seamless branching since it also has some BDs. I can wait for it, since it seems it’s in mediocre not very sturdy packaging, and would rather a 5-Disc 4K Viva Elite case.
So glad this project didn’t need anymore work, especially with it’s overuse of DNR with the upscaling program. OUCH.

RU.08 said:

Fullmetaled said:

How much more superior is it going to look compared to the uhd?

It won’t look better, it’ll just be a more faithful to how the print looks (virtually identical to the print if you were making a 4K DCP from the scan and projecting it in a cinema).

You should really let TGR97 respond to this.

TVArchive said:

I agree, I don’t remember those X-Files DVDs as being very good visually. Another issue with The X-Files is the amount of 90s effects that weren’t very good to begin with. Upscaling those could introduce tons of aliasing and other problems. I think I have a DVD set around here somewhere and I’ll check out S2 at some point to see if my gear can do anything with it.

Millennium Season 1 has been upscaled, encoded and is in the ‘done’ pile. Beginning work on Season 2 next week!

Some of THE X-FILES DVDs had some weird compression but would be neat to have the OAR, including original font, which the BDs use a weird aspect ratio and NOT the original font. I own all 9 OG seasons of THE X-FILES on BD, but it’s weird that 20th Century FOX/TV used the film frame and not matched to TV ratio.
Excellent news regarding MILLENIUM Season 1 and the great upscaler you’re using!
Ever considered The Lone Gunmen and Harsh Realm for upscaling?

35mm scan project for both 1080p and 4K would be better than any upscaling effort.

Fullmetaled said:

RU.08 said:

They haven’t scanned JP1 yet, but it’s being scanned in a very different way to much higher quality. That said Retrofilm looks like they’ve improved the quality of their scanner based on that clip which is wonderful, it’s also a real-time scanner so it scans very fast compared with how these ones are being scanned.

How much more superior is it going to look compared to the uhd?

That’s a far older transfer and only worth it for the bonus features. The 35mm will be much superior overall. 4K HDR10 or whichever soon, eventually.

I wish. Would really like to see 4K 35mm scans of this and HIGHLANDER III.

Why not a 35mm print for 4K scanning instead of whichever? Again, same shit repeated incessantly from other threads…
Movie-Censorship exists.

TVArchive said:

Thanks so much! I have been working on my upscale technique for several years, each source requires a different approach but I try VERY hard to lower DNR as much as possible to keep the upscale from looking like plastic. These were mostly shot on film and that grain needs to be there.

Again, thanks for the kind words. I’ve got several projects in the works so stay tuned!

Film grain is heavily preferred! Majority of fan restorations need to realize this, especially upscales, instead of making everything plastic waxy garbage. Would another of those projects be Harsh Realm or The Lone Gunmen? Because Chris Carter TV Shows.

The upscale appears great and I don’t see any excessive DNR as some people who use upscaling for other projects.

Leandar said:

Is this still available for download? If so, I’d love to get a copy of it.

Thanks in advance.

Special Longer Version is available officially without any ugly unneeded upscaling laziness.
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Star-Trek-The-Motion-Picture-4K-Blu-ray/319344/ https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Star-Trek-The-Motion-Picture-4K-Blu-ray/319941/

This project is DEAD.

SpookyDollhouse said:

PsyKovic said:

AdmiralWasabi10191 said:

I’d rather donate to a project regarding ALIENS.

There’s an already a scan for aliens

If this is true, I’d love to be pointed in the right direction.

Same, if it even exists.

I only have the USA DVDs of Buffy the Vampire Slayer. AND I had no clue about this either. Is it the same on the ANGEL DVDs? I haven’t checked in awhile.
I’ve the full series of both on DVD.

SpacemanDoug said:

AdmiralWasabi10191 said:

SpacemanDoug said:

AdmiralWasabi10191 said:

CloakedDragon97 said:

Amadeus
https://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=2234

Added to the Letterboxd list and the link to the title.
Back to the Future sort of counts but that was only on Home Video versions aka VHS, not the cinema release.

The Godfather trilogy 4K changes:

The Godfather:
-all optical texts digitally recreated, they’re mostly identical but still look a bit different (however what’s nice is the original Paramount logo was restored to the end, for the first time since VHS)

The Godfather Part II:
-all optical texts digitally recreated, they’re mostly identical but still look a bit different, however the opening “A Paramount Picture” credit is changed entirely to a different font and says “Paramount Pictures Presents” (however what’s nice is at least the original Paramount logo is restored to the end for the first time since the 2001 DVD)
-The 4K version shortens a shot that was meant to be a reel change and intentionally was extended by two seconds or so to accommodate but for reasons the reel change was moved somewhere else and the 2 seconds were left in, they appeared on every past home video release including the 2007 BD, but they were taken out for the 4K version
https://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=311098

The Godfather Part III:
-recut twice for home video, initially for the 1991 VHS as the “final director’s cut”, where it was extended from 162 minutes to 170 minutes, all home video releases before the 4K were based off of this cut
-the second recut was done in 2020 and retitled to “The Godfather Coda: The Death of Michael Corleone”, it’s the shortest running at 157 minutes and has some portions re-arranged as well
https://www.schnittberichte.com/schnittbericht.php?ID=610 (comparison between the theatrical and 1991 cut though note that this is in German and despite the TV broadcast being based off of the theatrical cut, is still cut for violence and such)
https://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=785871 (comparison between the 1991 cut and Coda)

the theatrical cut never got a home video release until it was released as a bonus feature alongside the 1991 cut on the 4K set

I really don’t need any of that. Just links, i.e. movie-censorship, to add to the films on the Letterboxd list. I’m streamlining this. Also will add The Saga Cut to the links for The GodFather Parts I & II.
I WILL add the links, of course. Thanks!

Can you at least add for the theatrical and 1991 cut comparison that it’s in German and the broadcast despite being based off of the theatrical cut is still edited for violence and such?

Yup!

stwd4nder2 said:

I appreciate the extra effort put in to posts other than just a link to another site. 😉

Corrected your typo. I would but this isn’t Blu-ray.com. This forum doesn’t even have the proper tools to do what I’d even want to do anyway. I did put the link to the original thread in the first post so text references are there, albiet it has some out of date information.
Letterboxd is fine, especially with how I have the List linked.

AND how was I able to double quote when this forum doesn’t have the feature? Copy pasting.

TGR97 said:

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SpacemanDoug said:

AdmiralWasabi10191 said:

CloakedDragon97 said:

Amadeus
https://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=2234

Added to the Letterboxd list and the link to the title.
Back to the Future sort of counts but that was only on Home Video versions aka VHS, not the cinema release.

The Godfather trilogy 4K changes:

The Godfather:
-all optical texts digitally recreated, they’re mostly identical but still look a bit different (however what’s nice is the original Paramount logo was restored to the end, for the first time since VHS)

The Godfather Part II:
-all optical texts digitally recreated, they’re mostly identical but still look a bit different, however the opening “A Paramount Picture” credit is changed entirely to a different font and says “Paramount Pictures Presents” (however what’s nice is at least the original Paramount logo is restored to the end for the first time since the 2001 DVD)
-The 4K version shortens a shot that was meant to be a reel change and intentionally was extended by two seconds or so to accommodate but for reasons the reel change was moved somewhere else and the 2 seconds were left in, they appeared on every past home video release including the 2007 BD, but they were taken out for the 4K version
https://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=311098

The Godfather Part III:
-recut twice for home video, initially for the 1991 VHS as the “final director’s cut”, where it was extended from 162 minutes to 170 minutes, all home video releases before the 4K were based off of this cut
-the second recut was done in 2020 and retitled to “The Godfather Coda: The Death of Michael Corleone”, it’s the shortest running at 157 minutes and has some portions re-arranged as well
https://www.schnittberichte.com/schnittbericht.php?ID=610 (comparison between the theatrical and 1991 cut though note that this is in German and despite the TV broadcast being based off of the theatrical cut, is still cut for violence and such)
https://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=785871 (comparison between the 1991 cut and Coda)

the theatrical cut never got a home video release until it was released as a bonus feature alongside the 1991 cut on the 4K set

I really don’t need any of that. Just links, i.e. movie-censorship, to add to the films on the Letterboxd list. I’m streamlining this. Also will add The Saga Cut to the links for The GodFather Parts I & II.
I WILL add the links, of course. Thanks!

CloakedDragon97 said:

Amadeus
https://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=2234

Added to the Letterboxd list and the link to the title.
Back to the Future sort of counts but that was only on Home Video versions aka VHS, not the cinema release.

$69 USD was from May through July. This month I donated $26 USD. Glad to have donated $95 USD total.
Most excellent!

CAL0901 said:

AdmiralWasabi10191 said:

Are there any fan edits of the Original Trilogy and Prequel Trilogy where it’s solely Extended Editions instead of wonky as fuck alternate edits?
check out Bobson Dugnutt at fanedit.org for several

Noice!

I made a new thread, but streamlined it heavily for the first post.
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Films-with-alternate-OFFICIAL-releases/id/97256/page/1

Venny said:

The_Evil_Dead_1_Fan said:

You want to preserve THE ONLY 100% PURE and 100% PRISTINE EXISTING versions of The Evil Dead (1981) ???

There are The THX APPROVED and CERTIFIED Widescreen and Full-Frame DEFINITIVE versions included EXCLUSIVELY in The ULTIMATE Edition DVD.

THE ULTIMATE PRINT.
THE SUPREME TRANSFER.

You will NEVER get ANYTHING BETTER than that, because NOTHING BETTER EXISTS.

(stop your lies, goodbye, scammers)

You do realize that prints of Evil Dead BEFORE edits were done exist right? Also who said anyone was scamming? Stop acting like a crazy person

But, they’re already a crazy person.
I have that Ultimate Edition DVD set, even have the 4K release too, and it’d be damn awesome to see a 35mm scan, in 4K of course! Because it’s the raw cinema version, and before all the zany edits. Better than a preservation of one of the Laserdiscs, IMO. UNLESS if a Laserdisc has exclusive bonus features or alternately interesting color timing.

The Aluminum Falcon said:

I know this is an old thread but is anyone interested in seeing the original Halloween preserved in 35mm? Might have a lead but need donors.

You ought to make a new thread for a preservation of a 35mm scan. (Hopefully 4K is a priority because 1080p is old news…) Would be an excellent disc, if it were so, to replace this woefully ancient and obsolete project.
I bet I still have this spoRv BD25 on a spindle somewhere…

CloakedDragon97 said:

Sorry about that.

It’s cool! I searched and Fantasia doesn’t seem to have alternate cuts/etc. listed. So perhaps a different site is needed which illustrates the differences.
Even though certain films may be bombarded with links in the Letterboxd list, would be best to have them where it ought to be.

Where are the updates?!