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AdmiralWasabi10191

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#1478321
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Star Trek The Motion Picture - Special Longer Version - 720p HD restoration/reconstruction/fanedit Version 1.0 (Released)
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Really hoping the SLV in OAR will be available in September with 4K The Director’s Edition as a bonus feature. At least in 1080p. Should have been released seamless branching last year with the Theatrical remaster 4K+BD of The Motion Picture. Would have been the easiest to implement.
The current remastered 4K & BD of the Theatrical cut has glorious film grain, which this SLV restoration attempt sorely lacks via unwelcomed DNR. I’ve already sold the 2009 BD because of the antiquated transfer and the DNR.

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#1478319
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Batman (1989) 35mm Opportunity
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The 4K release is fine, it’s the audio which I have issue with. Replaced foley for a lot of sounds. It’s the main reason why I haven’t sold the BDs of Batman (1989) and Batman Returns. All would be needed is color correcting of it to possibly appear similar to the BD or a 35mm print, and the original cinema audio track. I barely even watch the 4K of both Tim Burton Batman films due to what I and Venny typed.
Wonder if the OG cinema audio was on the Laserdisc at all, let alone the BD. I’m not knowledgable about this, even though I did see this in cinemas in 1989 when I was 10, of course I wouldn’t remember the sound mix.

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#1468069
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Info: Films re-released with alterations
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SpacemanDoug said:

On the old BD of Airplane!, there was a boom mic visible in two shots in the mirror during the scene whenever Kramer’s wife is talking to Paul in Kramer’s house that was (poorly) digitally removed, however oddly enough on the new 4K remastered BD, the boom mic was restored along with a small portion of the mirror frame that was accidentally erased on the old master as a result of the sloppy removal

https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=1&x=83&y=53&d1=14736&d2=14733&s1=152852&s2=152814&l=0&i=12&go=1

but yet bizarrely enough on the same 4K master, the wires used to throw around the beating heart in a scene towards the beginning of the movie were digitally removed that were visible on the old master

Keeping the original BD release for the bonus features whenever I get around to getting the 4K remastered BD.

CloakedDragon97 said:

The Nightmare Before Christmas changed the original Touchstone logo to the modern Disney logo for the 3D release. The opening credits were also changed to reflect this.

My guess that only applies to the 3D BD, correct? None of the other discs?

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#1465251
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What is your main way of watching the Original Trilogy?
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4K77 and 4K83, NO DNR!, for both STAR WARS and RETURN OF THE JEDI. Since 4K80 is incomplete regarding THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK, last I checked was around October last year, I figure on watching one of the random THX Laserdisc captures many different people have done.
Only own the retail 4K Disney/Lucasfilm 2019 releases, more for the bonus features, and none prior. Was going to get all the officially released iterations on DVD and BD but I can hold off for awhile. (2004, 2006, and 2011, I think?) Movie-Censorship has helped immensely. No clue regarding the 1997 Special Editions since as I’ve stated or about to, want the originals as first released in cinemas and all official iterations.

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#1456086
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Info: Mono soundtracks that were butchered with 5.1 remixes in later releases
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SpacemanDoug said:

AdmiralWasabi10191 said:

cryloh said:

What’s the deal with The Godfather (and Part II) in regards to their theatrical sound mixes? I’ve noticed that my Region 2 Blu-ray of the Coppola Restoration contains the remastered audio track as the only option, but I’ve heard that the Region 1 releases include tracks of the theatrical audio. Any reason why the original audio tracks would be limited to the North America release only? Just curious.

FYI, there’s no such thing as Region 1 or 2 for Blu-ray disc. Region A and B is there instead, of course.

SpacemanDoug said:

That’s actually a thing I’ve noticed in a lot of instances

US disks would include original mixes as a second option but their European counterparts would exclude them (Chinatown, Duel, The Omen, etc.), even though I’ve also noticed in Australian releases they would reflect the US disks

My guess is because they wanna save room for more foreign dubs because of the amount of different languages in that territory compared to the US and Australia where people primarily speak English

And btw as someone who owns the US disks of The Godfather, the mono tracks are indeed the authentic theatrical mixes and they’re region free so you could just as easily import them

The USA BD boxset for The GodFather has gone through a few different designs and the discs remain the same. I own one of the more current redesigns for the packaging of the USA boxset.

Those masters were also released on DVD so he’s possibly referring to the DVD set of those masters from Europe

He did type Region 1 Blu-ray and Region 2 Blu-ray which Blu-ray disc dropped the numbers for the regions and just went for A, B, C. But a lot of us knew that. Must have been a carry over regarding typing a lot about DVDs.

Received Spaceballs 4K+BD from the Kino Lorber sale yesterday and still not sure if the 2.0 tracks are dual mono or not and if it’s a downmix of the 5.1 track that’s on there. DVDCompare.net states there’s two portions of audio missing but doesn’t state which tracks are affected. Below is copy pasted from the site.

  • When Princess Vespa says "Nobody talks to me that way. “Nobody!” and shouts “NOBODY!” in the desert, it lacks the additional echoes afterward.
  • Dot Matrix’s line of “Ohh! No Vespa! Don’t! Vespa!” before Dark Helmet tricks Vespa is missing (although subtitles for this line are present).

PsyKovic said:

CourtlyHades296 said:

The UHD of A Clockwork Orange does include the original mono mix, which Blu-Ray.com’s reviewer preferred over the 5.1 remix (which on this disc sounds awful).

but with a lossy dolby 192 kbps

Would have been nice if it were lossless instead.

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#1455916
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Info: Mono soundtracks that were butchered with 5.1 remixes in later releases
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cryloh said:

What’s the deal with The Godfather (and Part II) in regards to their theatrical sound mixes? I’ve noticed that my Region 2 Blu-ray of the Coppola Restoration contains the remastered audio track as the only option, but I’ve heard that the Region 1 releases include tracks of the theatrical audio. Any reason why the original audio tracks would be limited to the North America release only? Just curious.

FYI, there’s no such thing as Region 1 or 2 for Blu-ray disc. Region A and B is there instead, of course.

SpacemanDoug said:

That’s actually a thing I’ve noticed in a lot of instances

US disks would include original mixes as a second option but their European counterparts would exclude them (Chinatown, Duel, The Omen, etc.), even though I’ve also noticed in Australian releases they would reflect the US disks

My guess is because they wanna save room for more foreign dubs because of the amount of different languages in that territory compared to the US and Australia where people primarily speak English

And btw as someone who owns the US disks of The Godfather, the mono tracks are indeed the authentic theatrical mixes and they’re region free so you could just as easily import them

The USA BD boxset for The GodFather has gone through a few different designs and the discs remain the same. I own one of the more current redesigns for the packaging of the USA boxset.

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#1452964
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Info Wanted: Mad Max (1979) Original Aussie Mono audio
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SpacemanDoug said:

red41804 said:

SpacemanDoug said:

red41804 said:

The Mono found on the Kino Blu Ray is again a down mix of 5.1.

No it’s not, I actually have the proof that it’s the legitimate domestic theatrical mix, I can share my video if you want

That fool who made that comparison video (and refuses to take it down despite being proven wrong) didn’t realize he actually used the European mix which used the Australian dub but used several sound effects from the American mix (the American mix in addition to changing the dub also added many sound effects that weren’t in the Australian mix), essentially meaning the European mix is a hybrid between the domestic and American tracks

Does this mono mix have the original SFX?

Yes it does, but the “missing” sound effects that comparison video claims were there originally were part of the European mix (and not the original domestic mix) which was a hybrid between the Aussie and American mixes, I had to track down a 1985 Australian broadcast of the movie to prove this

The European track is not included on the 4K release

Thank you for this information.

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#1452963
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Info: Films re-released with alterations
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SpacemanDoug said:

Can you possibly fix the one for Minority Report?

It is true that the BD has a different color timing than the DVD, but it’s far more likely that the BD is closer to theatrically accurate because its look is very consistent with Spielberg’s 2000s movies (ex. War of the Worlds) and the DVD looks much more teal than it needs to be

Agreed. Would be properly compared to a theatrical print compared what was used for DVD. Which DVDs should never be used for color comparisons, same regarding LaserDisc, because of lacking color gamut compared to a film print or digital intermediate.

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#1452960
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Idea: 'In the Heat of the Night' (tv series) - original aspect ratio preservation
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SpacemanDoug said:

I saw the Amazon versions and they’re widescreen too, they have the “free with ads” option and I sampled them specifically to check the aspect ratio, however they do at least have the episodes missing on the DVDs

Based on this I’ve concluded the only available HD masters are 16x9

Shame it’s cropped, possibly, and not OAR.

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#1452907
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Info: Mono soundtracks that were butchered with 5.1 remixes in later releases
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crissrudd4554 said:

Mango said:

The 60th Anniversary blu-ray of Psycho is nice in that its the uncut version, but the mono mix on it is just a downscale of the DTS X mix which is rather disappointing as the 50th Anniversary bluray had the original mono mix.

Universal corrected this. They issued replacement discs.

Have the Alfred Hitchcock 4-film 4K & BD set and I never got the replacement discs from Universal for Psycho after doing the process four times. Bought the individual release a couple months ago, checked both discs on the data side, and were the corrected mono track.

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#1452904
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Info Wanted: Mad Max (1979) Original Aussie Mono audio
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SpacemanDoug said:

AdmiralWasabi10191 said:

SpacemanDoug said:

red41804 said:

The Mono found on the Kino Blu Ray is again a down mix of 5.1.

No it’s not, I actually have the proof that it’s the legitimate domestic theatrical mix, I can share my video if you want

That fool who made that comparison video (and refuses to take it down despite being proven wrong) didn’t realize he actually used the European mix which used the Australian dub but used several sound effects from the American mix (the American mix in addition to changing the dub also added many sound effects that weren’t in the Australian mix), essentially meaning the European mix is a hybrid between the domestic and American tracks

The Australian track is the original audio and the American English is the dub, FYI.

I know, but I’m correcting the guy above who said Kino’s 4K release has the Aussie 5.1 downmix rather than the legitimate Aussie mono track, which it does have the original

It’s the European mix that utilizes the Aussie audio but adds various amounts of the sound effects from the American mix

Is the European mix even included on the Kino Lorber 4K release? It’s sitting on my shelf and I’m too lazy to look.

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#1452890
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Info Wanted: Mad Max (1979) Original Aussie Mono audio
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SpacemanDoug said:

red41804 said:

The Mono found on the Kino Blu Ray is again a down mix of 5.1.

No it’s not, I actually have the proof that it’s the legitimate domestic theatrical mix, I can share my video if you want

That fool who made that comparison video (and refuses to take it down despite being proven wrong) didn’t realize he actually used the European mix which used the Australian dub but used several sound effects from the American mix (the American mix in addition to changing the dub also added many sound effects that weren’t in the Australian mix), essentially meaning the European mix is a hybrid between the domestic and American tracks

The Australian track is the original audio and the American English is the dub, FYI.

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#1452889
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Dirty Harry - Color Regrade and New 5.1 remix project (Released)
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This is more of a question of the original mono tracks from the LaserDisc for all five Dirty Harry movies for the BD releases. Might there exist BD25s or guides on how to sync it up with the retail BDs? Don’t want to veer too far off this thread topic.
This regrade is nice but not very interested in the 5.1, unless if it isn’t the original cinema audio. Really hoping Warner Brothers will have Dirty Harry on 4K UHD with Blu-ray disc for a new remaster. Maybe even do an Unforgiven where the included BD is also remastered. This is more speculation than anything.

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#1448770
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Query: STAR TREK Feature Films Laserdisc original cinematic audio tracks Preservation. 35mm too?
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The majority of the STAR TREK Feature Films do retain their original cinematic audio tracks on the 2-Disc DVD releases albiet in Dolby Digital 2.0 for the majority of TOS films and most assuredly 5.1 regarding TNG films. Would really like to have the PCM 2.0 and possibly PCM (possibly higher bitrate Dolby Digital) 5.1 tracks from these films from the Laserdiscs or the 35mm prints available for download and preservation. The recent 4K UHD disc and Blu-ray disc remastered releases of The Motion Picture, II: The Wrath of Khan, III: The Search for Spock, and IV: The Voyage Home omits the original cinematic English audio tracks for 7.1 instead.

STAR TREK VI: The Undiscovered Country would be the most trickiest since the original DVD release was still the Special Home Video Version which was sourced from the Laserdisc. The optical audio track from the 35mm film would have the original cinematic audio and original cinema cut of the film. That’d be an entirely different preservation project.
Not entirely certain as to what else to type except it’s been nice seeing the 35mm print preservations of The Search for Spock and The Voyage Home. Would be a nice project, perhaps also a massive undertaking, to preserve films The Final Frontier through Nemesis via the 35mm prints. Anything to escape the dreadful DNR and inferior sources of the 2009 BD releases of those.

I have absolutely no way to make my own preservations regarding these two formats. Don’t have any Laserdisc or film scanning equipment.

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#1448768
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Star Trek: The Original Series preservation (a WIP)
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JadedSkywalker said:

Where resolution is concerned i think 2K is the sweet spot they’ve decided on for Star Trek television and 4K for the films. Although only the Kelvin films and The Wrath of Khan have 4k masters, and Deep Space Nine And Voyager haven’t been scanned in 2k yet. Enterprise is close enough with 1080P filmout tapes.

I cannot see them going back and doing TOS again in 4K.

Has anyone listened to the analog audio off the US discs yet, analog audio can be quite good.

I’m tempted to get some of the episodes on Laserdisc just to listen to them.

The recent 4K and BD releases of the remastered The Motion Picture, The Wrath of Khan, The Search for Spock, and The Voyage Home all appear to be stellar. Future sets along with The Motion Picture - The Director’s Edition remastered in 4K are more than eventual and the latter is currently being worked upon.

The Roddenberry Vault BD release uses AVC instead of VC-1 which was used on the TOS BD Season sets. The former only has episodes culled from Seasons 1 and 2, none from 3. Would have been nice to see further volumes but perhaps Paramount nixed the idea. The aforementioned Roddenberry Vault has far better compression for the episodes included compared to the Season sets. All of the episodes in both the Season Sets on BD and The Roddenberry Vault are the original broadcast versions and not syndicated as many prior releases were. Of course it has the revised/“updated” effects via seamless branching.
The Dolby Digital Mono tracks on both BD releases are unfortunately low bitrate instead of PCM, which is most likely on Laserdisc. The Season Sets on BD are unfortunately presented in broadcast order instead of production order.

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#1448764
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Star Trek The Motion Picture - Special Longer Version - 720p HD restoration/reconstruction/fanedit Version 1.0 (Released)
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Is there any chance for a non-degrained version? I loathe Digital Noise Reduction.
Wonder if there’s any possibility for another version of this with the 1983 TV aka Special Longer Version scenes to be upscaled with the newer remastered Blu-ray disc of The Motion Picture compared to the antiquated and irrelevancy of the 2009 BD.