AdmiralWasabi10191

Tantive3+1 said:

I’m looking into expanding my home video collection of SW by including the DVD/Blu-rays, but first, I have a few questions about them, so there’s no confusion when purchasing them.

3. For the 2011 “The Complete Saga” Blu-ray Set, there’s one set that looks like this,
   

And another that looks like this

What’s the difference between the two release-wise?

To make it easier the only differences are the packaging. The discs are completely the same. First one released in 2011 is the Digisleeve, and the 2015, still 20th Century FOX, is a slipbox with the discs housed in a 9-Disc Viva Elite case. The 2015 release is a space saver while the 2011 release would take up more room on a shelf. Both have the booklet.
I have the 2015 release of the 2011 Blu-ray disc versions. Didn’t want the initial bulky packaging even though it has beautiful production artwork for the Digisleeves. That, and the 2015 release is less expensive compared to the 2011 release.
Digisleeve is where the disc is in a sleeve or nook instead of on a hub.

Tantive3+1 said:

Last question, does the 2020 UHD Blu-ray Box Set include these extras?

TFA
The Scavenger & the Stormtrooper: A Conversation with Daisy Ridley and John Boyega

TLJ
Meet the Porgs

TROS
A Final Alliance

IDGAF about the Sequel Trilogy BUT, here’s what DVDCompare.net lists for the “SKYWALKER SAGA”. I don’t know how to embed links in text on this style of forum so it’ll be the url.
http://dvdcompare.net/comparisons/film.php?fid=36744#4
http://dvdcompare.net/comparisons/film.php?fid=46003#4
http://dvdcompare.net/comparisons/film.php?fid=53267#2

Appears the last featurette/bonus/extra seems to be a Target Exclusive on DVD, and not entirely sure if there’s a separate release with it. I’ve absolutely no clue if the latter is in the so-called Saga set. I’ll ask a forum I’m on.

ifjg said:

I think Editdroid was considered the gold standard back in the day for video quality + preservation of bonus features. No idea how you could get it, though. Unless you specifically want LD video quality, probably best/easiest to just go with 4K77, since that includes the LD commentaries synced up.

I don’t mind LD quality specifically for the releases I posted. Of course I have 4K77 & 4K83 whichever version number No DNR. Figured it might be fun to have high quality Laserdisc to DVD preservations, and if anyone has made any menus.
I’m repeating myself from the first post.
Haven’t even kept up with the fan preservations for STAR WARS from defunct home media in a very long time.

Double post.

I’ll be watching 4K83 version ? No DNR in May to celebrate the 40th Anniversary of RETURN OF THE JEDI. The 4K, not 1080p.

springfeel said:

Paramount will probably release a 4k eventually. Likely a dnr mess but u never know. They did a fine job with ferris bueller 4k .

Speaking of ng3 that’s the only one that hasn’t got a laserdisc treatment yet .

FERRIS BUELLER’S DAY OFF isn’t on 4K UHD! MADNESS!
Digital and Streaming don’t fucking count either.
NAKED GUN, NAKED GUN 2½, and NAKED GUN 33⅓ would be great to 35mm scans. In 1080p AND 4K.

I do know about 4K77, 4K80, 4K83, and potential or already happened film scans of the 1997 Special Edition iterations of the Original Trilogy. More about the preservation of the Laserdiscs onto DVD.
I’m not going to trudge through hundreds of pages to search for information on this forum. Meaning no DNR or artificial sharpening regarding these. Hopefully dual layered DVDs were considered for these preservations, all bonus features included where applicable regarding the sets. No clue if any fan preservationists added menus or not.

https://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/36787/1130-85/Star-Wars:-A-New-Hope-(FOX)
https://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/00873/1425-85/Star-Wars:-The-Empire-Strikes-Back
https://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/00874/1478-85/Star-Wars:-Return-of-the-Jedi
https://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/05091/0693-84/Star-Wars-Trilogy:-Definitive-Collection
https://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/11011/8763-85/Star-Wars:-A-New-Hope
https://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/11013/8764-85/Star-Wars:-The-Empire-Strikes-Back
https://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/11014/8765-85/Star-Wars:-Return-of-the-Jedi
https://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/07972/4102985/Star-Wars-Trilogy:-Special-Edition
https://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/00046/PILF-2830/Star-Wars:-The-Phantom-Menace

MySpleen uploads don’t count. Google Drive, Resilio, Mega, MediaFire, etc. are better options.
I only know of the 1995 “FACES” releases being CLV instead of CAV as the 1993 set was, from my understanding. 1997 Special Edition Trilogy versions I used to have the “Five Star Collection” DVD pressed bootlegs decades ago which I no longer have.
Any help is greatful!

Those crazy pressed Bootleg DVDs! There were a ton of those and I even had the Five Star Collection DVD Bootlegs, was the 1997 Special Edition versions but LD to DVD and not scanning film, prior to the 2004 Original Trilogy DVDs, 2004 version of course for that. Didn’t have any of the other pressed bootlegs besides that one.
http://www.swonvideo.com/
Interesting!

djsmokingjam said:

Please could someone send me links if there’s any still going?

Fingers crossed for that rumoured Arrow set this year!

Who rumoured that set?

The Griff said:

AdmiralWasabi10191 said:

I’m not at all interested in the woefully pitiful BD25 Extended Blu-ray disc from this project, since the Australian Blu-ray disc is vastly superior, but for the BD50 USA Theatrical Cut. Of which I’d put with the USA Blu-ray disc

What exactly was “woefully pitiful” about it? It was great to have the missing cues in a stereo/surround format - which compliments the wonderful score. You still can’t get that option on any other release, legit or otherwise.

That’s the same as Atmos/DTS:X remixes for a film which was originally mono or stereo surround. Fuck off with that bullshit. OG cinema audio, even if it’s lossy, 100% for me compared to idiotic remixes, which are surround/Atmos/DTS:X, for people such as yourself who want all their speakers working. You only picked what you wanted to respond to.
Yes, I always choose the monoaural track on the CONAN THE BARBARIAN Australian BD I own instead of the remix. Again, I’m only interested in the BD50 USA Theatrical Cut, not the BD25.
OH LOOK, I’M A FUCKING BROKEN RECORD.

korach1921 said:

AdmiralWasabi10191 said:

korach1921 said:

SpacemanDoug said:

Sent to both of you

Can you send it to me too? I recently bought the Complete Quest Blu-Ray with the intention of making an isolated score and correcting the soundtrack and color, but I see MySpleen beat me to it almost a decade ago

Why would you need to do that? The Australian Blu-ray disc release and French Blu-ray disc re-release have the corrected soundtrack via the mono and color. It’s the Extended International Cut and not the USA Theatrical Editions on those two releases. Only thing you’d need to do is the isolated score and that’s it. MySpleen can fuck off.
http://dvdcompare.net/comparisons/film.php?fid=18450#2 https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Conan-the-Barbarian-Blu-ray/24760/

So wait, correct me if I’m wrong, but you’re saying the version on the Complete Quest Blu-ray that I have has the original mono and color? I didn’t notice a mono track on my copy. Are you saying I should find the Australian and/or French one instead?

Nope, it doesn’t. Import the Australian BD from JB Hifi or FishPond, it’s quite inexpensive There’s a 2-Disc Australia BD release which has both Barbarian and Destroyer which are far superior to the USA BDs. https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Conan-the-Barbarian-and-Conan-the-Destroyer-Blu-ray/45476/
I only own the USA BD because it has a cut exclusive to it. The Complete Quest USA BD release doesn’t have the original mono (lossy) and corrected colors. Only two things I don’t really like about the Australian BD, which I’ve owned for awhile, is the cover doesn’t use the original poster nor font, and the OG mono track (for the Extended Cut) is lossy instead of lossless.
From DVDCompare.net: This release is confirmed to have the corrected audio AND video (the nightfilter issue), and the addition of the original mono track.
For Conan the Destroyer, tons of other releases on Blu-ray disc, other countries, have far more bonus features compared to the USA BD. BUT, the UK BD of Conan the Destroyer is the only release which has the original cinema mono track in lossless. All the other BDs on the planet, including USA, use the 5.1 remix.
I’m not at all interested in the woefully pitiful BD25 Extended Blu-ray disc from this project, since the Australian Blu-ray disc is vastly superior, but for the BD50 USA Theatrical Cut. Of which I’d put with the USA Blu-ray disc.
BUTTE, it’d be even more awesome if someone did a 4K 35mm scan of the USA cuts of both CONAN THE BARBARIAN and CONAN THE DESTROYER. Especially for the audio.

I’m not going to request until I rebuy the DVDs of all three seasons.

SpacemanDoug said:

moviejim said:

It is on disk 1 of the bluray complete series

No it’s not, what you’re thinking of is the original uncut broadcast pilot which runs 49 minutes, which is in SD and is the same master as the season 1 DVD

The default on the BD is the 45 minute syndicated cut which is also used for streaming services

It’s so bizarre Warner refused to upgrade the uncut pilot episode for HD and instead just include it in SD as a special feature (reminds me of how they did the season 7 super-size episodes of Friends for the BD set)

Well, damn.

The Return of the Living Dead can be removed from this list. It’s an OOP release. http://dvdcompare.net/comparisons/film.php?fid=16956#7 https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Return-of-the-Living-Dead-Blu-ray/47130/
English LPCM 2.0 Mono (Unaltered). It’s uncompressed, not lossless or lossy.
Unless if titles released in other regions don’t count then this list is pointless.

korach1921 said:

SpacemanDoug said:

Sent to both of you

Can you send it to me too? I recently bought the Complete Quest Blu-Ray with the intention of making an isolated score and correcting the soundtrack and color, but I see MySpleen beat me to it almost a decade ago

Why would you need to do that? The Australian Blu-ray disc release and French Blu-ray disc re-release have the corrected soundtrack via the mono and color. It’s the Extended International Cut and not the USA Theatrical Editions on those two releases. Only thing you’d need to do is the isolated score and that’s it. MySpleen can fuck off.
http://dvdcompare.net/comparisons/film.php?fid=18450#2 https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Conan-the-Barbarian-Blu-ray/24760/

Fullmetaled said:

CloakedDragon97 said:

What was wrong with the color grading?

Evil dead 2 has red push on the uhd blu ray evil dead 1’s uhd might be too warm and not the intended look because ever other editions of it had a cooler look so it might be a case where one of two things happened it now it has the intended look or they altered it and now the Moody color timing is gone. 😦

Are you basing this on a film print or the archaic Laserdisc or DVD releases? Are you HDR10 capable with any hardware? If you’re only SDR capable, then why does it matter?

Charles Threepio said:

Have you tried 4K83? Just wondering.

THIS.

moviejim said:

It is on disk 1 of the bluray complete series

WOO ANOTHER THREAD WHICH IS DONE BECAUSE OF AN OFFICIAL RELEASE! Nice.

Checked last week and I still have the spoRv BD25 of this. Only worth keeping for the LPCM audio from the Criterion Laserdisc and some other audio tracks.

The audio from the Laserdiscs would be nice since it’d be a far greater bitrate compared to what’s on BD. Which is bullshit lossy instead of lossless.

jimbotron235 said:

PsyKovic said:

By any chance you will be using 35mm scan footage?

No, this is strictly sourcing the Blu-ray and DVD for video. I imagine once the 35mm project is completed, this will be obsoleted, which is fine by me.

Good. I’d rather a 35mm scan compared to an obsolete upscale.

SpacemanDoug said:

AdmiralWasabi10191 said:

timemeddler said:

interesting, there’s a 480p transfer on the spleen claiming to be the 1973 version, is that from this print? Perhaps it could be used as the source to created a despecialized version of American Graffiti.

The Spleen can go suck a fuck.
35mm print would be best. 1080p or 4K scan. Would it ever happen? That’d be neat.

The one on myspleen is a 35mm scan, it’s just 480p

That’s fucking hilariously stupid that it’s 480p, not 1080p or 4K.

timemeddler said:

interesting, there’s a 480p transfer on the spleen claiming to be the 1973 version, is that from this print? Perhaps it could be used as the source to created a despecialized version of American Graffiti.

The Spleen can go suck a fuck.
35mm print would be best. 1080p or 4K scan. Would it ever happen? That’d be neat.

Why not a 35mm scan of the Japanese audio release in 1080p or 4K? Maybe not.

sebkarlbjork said:

MonkeyLizard10 said:

It will be interesting to see what the colors end up like for JP on this project here.

I have a JP print in hand (which I am running another 4k project for, see other thread) and I can say that the earlier (nothing to do with the new 4k project this thread is about, talking about the original JP 35mm project done in HD) 1080P project versions 1 and 2 (assuming my copies didn’t get messed with and re-encoded in wrong colorspace or something and are the proper original files for the project) colors definitely do not match what I see on the print I have. There is definitely more saturation on the actual print (at least on the particular print I have access to at the moment) and the colors are a different tint, pretty noticeably so. I will also say that the colors are a bit different than I expected. The yellow and red on the jeep are not quite as ultra-saturated as I expected and the red is a touch different shade than expected, although a good bit moreso than on the 1080P original project files I have, and a lot of the vegetation isn’t a rich green but more of a bit kinda yellowish less greeny green (the old project has that too, just even a good deal moreso less saturated for the red on the truck and pink shirts and the green, while also not deep, rich greeny green, is tinted a different way and a bit different than what I see on the print on hand). I don’t know if the print I have on hand even has full richness or not. It seems decent, but I’m not sure it’s quite a week one print. But hard to say, I only did see JP in 35mm back in '93 and only digital ever since so I really don’t remember that sort of detail. After prints get shown a lot, they tend to lose a bit of contrast and saturation and the highlights and brights sometimes get more blown out and run together in a weird way, from what I recall from the 35mm projection days, when you’d often see quite a change from first week or showings to showings a month or two later if they never got a new print. Anyway, the one I have in hand, all the same, still might be richer and less faded than the one scanned for the 1080P project (assuming it’s not just the scanner used or the grading making the difference, which could be). Whatever the reason, the 1080P original project looks a bit dull and faded and with somewhat different tint to colors compared to the tiny bit of the 35mm print I have in hand I just peeked at. It’s really a fair amount different. Anyway, it will be interesting to see how this print and it’s project end up comparing to mine as well as to the original 1080P project.

I compared on a D56 high CRI lightbox directly next to monitor showing the two earlier 1080P project scan .mkv files. Not sure if it is because the print they used was more faded out or maybe processed differently in the film lab or the way the scan got done or graded. The files almost have a look like they were made in P3 or something but treated like they were REC709 primaries sort of deal, but it might just be the particular print, the scanning or grading. (that said still all props to the original 1080P JP project, there’s a lot great about it!)

How does this scanned clip compare to your print?

https://youtu.be/PRmnC1kHOs0

You should ask in that persons thread instead of this one. https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Jurassic-Park-35mm-historical-preservation-project-WIP-earliest-stage/id/100179

Pauln6 said:

I bought the latest boxed set which has a 4k version of the SLV but I have neither a 4k TV nor a 4k player.

What are the odds of getting a version downgraded to HD?

I can’t testify to improved quality because I can’t view it doh.

Get a 4K TV and a 4K player. BOOM, problem solved. Personally because of prior history with random devices, I don’t LG or Panasonic.
With me, I’ve been wanting to import the UK The Director’s Edition which has the SLV on 4K as mentioned seamless branching since it also has some BDs. I can wait for it, since it seems it’s in mediocre not very sturdy packaging, and would rather a 5-Disc 4K Viva Elite case.
So glad this project didn’t need anymore work, especially with it’s overuse of DNR with the upscaling program. OUCH.