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Do you think the special editions will get the same remastering as the 50th anniversary? — Page 4

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Camera film does not use dye, it uses a chemical emulsion. You might be confused because dye is used to create Technicolor prints, which do NOT fade. Making Technicolor prints is a lithographic process, not a photographic process.

Certain types of film do not fade, like black/white because it uses silver particles. Color film has always used more volatile chemicals to create the color reactions. Different types of film from different eras have different amount of fading.

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The only thing other than historical preservation that would justify the inclusion of the ‘97 versions is if George decided to radically alter the movies yet again. Like, if he gave Star Wars the “final cut” treatment like Ridley Scott with Blade Runner or George’s friend Francis Coppola with Apocalypse Now.

Having said that, Apocalypse Now is an interesting example because to my knowledge the only alteration that was done for its Final Cut was the removal of a scene that had been added for the Redux version. And yet the earlier two versions were both included seamlessly branched on a second disc.

I’ve joked about this, but it’s still not too late for George to do his “I may have gone too far in a few places” edition of I-VI. I even remember there was a rumor right before the digital versions came out in 2015 that someone had been at the ranch (or wherever) and noticed someone working on the unaltered original version of the Han and Greedo scene, thus leading to speculation that it was going to get changed back to how it was. Obviously that turned out not to be true, but meanwhile the Han and Jabba scene is the only thing other than the additional Luke and Biggs moment that Lucas ever put back into the OT. Well, that and the repurposed RotJ footage of Vader walking off his shuttle that was used for the SE of ESB. I don’t think anything deleted from when they shot it back in the day got added back into RotJ.

If George wanted to change his mind about the editorial alterations to the running time, or even go the opposite route and add even more (or redo the cg) then there’d be a much stronger argument for including the ‘97 SE.

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The 50th is happening because its Fox’s crown jewel and it’s a valuable movie. It’s an asset. I highly doubt Disney cares about film preservation or cultural whatever, it’s about money.

And it’s what the fans have been clamoring for and asking for. We’ll see if people actually want the original and show up in large numbers. Its kind of a shame its a limited release and isn’t going wide like a new film. I’d like to see just how well it would do if they went big, like the 1997 special editions. promote the hell out of it. Have comic book adaptations, a soundtrack, a novel. Action figures. Posters. Prepare a 4K UHD physical release after the film has left theaters. Perhaps have it locked to Disney plus for a limited window like Maclunky.

Maybe they can also do a new retrospective book. A documentary on the film career of George Lucas. It would be hard to top Empire of Dreams, and the Rinzler making of Star Wars.

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When do ya’ll think we’ll start getting more announcements about this?

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Fang Zei said:

I don’t think anything deleted from when they shot it back in the day got added back into Rotj.

Some of the celebration shots in Endor were added back in, such as Luke shaking hands with Wedge.

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Verboten said:

When do ya’ll think we’ll start getting more announcements about this?

D23 is 14-16th August this year - so it may get a mention or feature in one of those video montages of ‘what is coming in 2027’ type of thing.

There’s also been a noticeable increase in leaks / announcements of merch for the 50th anniversary; books, comics, lego, figures & collectibles etc, and there is already the usual wide range of apparel plastered with the 50th logo - with more to undoubtedly be released soon.

I guess they’ll be doing pre-bookings tickets from the screenings starting on 19th February a couple of months before hand? So they will want some time to promote that - to let it all sink in with the general public?

As the official site mentioned the film being “part of Lucasfilm’s yearlong 50th anniversary celebration”… together with all the above - my completely uneducated guess would be… November.

What about yourself, Verboten? When do you think we’ll see some further announcements / promo content?
 

I don’t think we’ll see mention of the Star Wars ALI becoming available on Disney+ - or a physical media release - until sometime after the cinema screenings of the film have finished - I doubt they’ll want to impact on their cinema takings, and will want fans to ‘triple-dip’ our money on the film. Again, that’s just my guess - and would love to be wrong on that.
 

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SonnyGFunk said:

Fang Zei said:

I don’t think anything deleted from when they shot it back in the day got added back into Rotj.

Some of the celebration shots in Endor were added back in, such as Luke shaking hands with Wedge.

Also some unused shots from Lapti-Nek were reused for Jedi Rocks.

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SonnyGFunk said:

Fang Zei said:

I don’t think anything deleted from when they shot it back in the day got added back into Rotj.

Some of the celebration shots in Endor were added back in, such as Luke shaking hands with Wedge.

Luke hugging Wedge in RotJ, the new Oola footage. and the extra Biggs scene in Star Wars. May be the only things I like about the special editions.

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JadedSkywalker said:

SonnyGFunk said:

Fang Zei said:

I don’t think anything deleted from when they shot it back in the day got added back into Rotj.

Some of the celebration shots in Endor were added back in, such as Luke shaking hands with Wedge.

Luke hugging Wedge in RotJ, the new Oola footage. and the extra Biggs scene in Star Wars. May be the only things I like about the special editions.

I can’t thing of any original footage from TESB being reintroduced into the SE though, unless I’m missing something obvious. I know it had the shuttle arriving on the star destroyer and Vader disembarking, but that was ROTJ footage.

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I think D23 will be mostly about Starfighter and other unrelated projects. They’ll likely get into the nitty gritty of what they’re planning with the OUT at Celebration after SW’s re-release has wrapped up.

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kali9615 said:

I think D23 will be mostly about Starfighter and other unrelated projects. They’ll likely get into the nitty gritty of what they’re planning with the OUT at Celebration after SW’s re-release has wrapped up.

True, but I expect we’ll get something at least before the re-releases. It wouldn’t make sense for them to prepare press kits for the film and then only release them after everyone has already seen the restoration.

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oojason said:

What about yourself, Verboten? When do you think we’ll see some further announcements / promo content?
 

End of the year?

I feel like it’s weird that they haven’t talked about it more already, but I haven’t really followed these types of re-releases for other movies, so I don’t actually know what’s normal or what to expect.

Then again, I did get the impression that the only reason we got an announcement when we did was that the leaks forced their hand.

I realize this will make everyone roll their eyes, but I’m still anxious and pessimistic about a home video release, so that’s what I want to have officially confirmed the most.

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I hope it makes the Maclunky editions from 2020 and the Lowry mess look like amateur hour. Then instead of the Original is locked to a bad GOUT laserdisc. Its going to be in reverse. The Lucas approved cut is going to look awful. The original is the restored version. it’s a reversal.

Why didn’t get Lucas approved cuts in the same quality as the originals all the way back when they did the Special Edition in the 1990s. dare I say ego and one man’s choice and stubbornness.

In the Era of late DVD and Blu-Ray there really wasn’t an excuse. When everything you can think of was coming to home media. The its too expensive sounds not truthful.

Now we are in late stage 4K UHD. Maybe even the long-prophesized death of physical media. But I hope the OOT arrives on 4K before Sony pulls the plug.

Is it gloating to love that Han will not shoot second in the 50th Anniversary edition. To want to see Lapti Nek and Yub Yub and not the garbage replacements if a ROTJ remaster comes to theaters. or even to see TESB and have Vader say Bring my shuttle, and to have the original Emperor back in terms of his voice over or Jason Wingreen as Fett.

To me it feels like a wrong has been righted. For the OOT devotee, the GEN X fan. Much rejoicing if the entire original trilogy comes back to cinemas and we get physical home releases.

A true gift to the fans. Not another the deal is getting worse all the time. Or another disturbance in the force over deliberate creative decisions. DNR and oxymorons.

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JadedSkywalker said:

I hope it makes the Maclunky editions from 2020 and the Lowry mess look like amateur hour. Then instead of the Original is locked to a bad GOUT laserdisc. Its going to be in reverse. The Lucas approved cut is going to look awful. The original is the restored version. it’s a reversal.

Why didn’t get Lucas approved cuts in the same quality as the originals all the way back when they did the Special Edition in the 1990s. dare I say ego and one man’s choice and stubbornness.

In the Era of late DVD and Blu-Ray there really wasn’t an excuse. When everything you can think of was coming to home media. The its too expensive sounds not truthful.

Now we are in late stage 4K UHD. Maybe even the long-prophesized death of physical media. But I hope the OOT arrives on 4K before Sony pulls the plug.

Is it gloating to love that Han will not shoot second in the 50th Anniversary edition. To want to see Lapti Nek and Yub Yub and not the garbage replacements if a ROTJ remaster comes to theaters. or even to see TESB and have Vader say Bring my shuttle, and to have the original Emperor back in terms of his voice over or Jason Wingreen as Fett.

To me it feels like a wrong has been righted. For the OOT devotee, the GEN X fan. Much rejoicing if the entire original trilogy comes back to cinemas and we get physical home releases.

A true gift to the fans. Not another the deal is getting worse all the time. Or another disturbance in the force over deliberate creative decisions. DNR and oxymorons.

As someone who has long awaited this, I don’t think it gloating to revel in a long-overdue victory.

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well depends on how the disney universe makes them

earth 1 nowadays kinda reminds me of the star wars multiverse

there are a lot of good topics in this forums

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The special editions I was referring to was the current ones not 97 and want to know they would get proper restorations, because the 4k for the special editions looks awful and the hdr is bad. plus I like some parts of the special edition.

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Jedi master anakin 1 said:

The special editions I was referring to was the current ones not 97 and want to know they would get proper restorations, because the 4k for the special editions looks awful and the hdr is bad. plus I like some parts of the special edition.

Doubtful. Those were all intentional choices made for those cuts.

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CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Jedi master anakin 1 said:

The special editions I was referring to was the current ones not 97 and want to know they would get proper restorations, because the 4k for the special editions looks awful and the hdr is bad. plus I like some parts of the special edition.

Doubtful. Those were all intentional choices made for those cuts.

So the video quality issues are all on purpose by George Lucas that’s a shame.