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Mando EP3: A New Path (A Book of Boba Fett Edit) [RELEASED] — Page 5

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Darth Raditz said:

smudger9 said:

First cut coming in at the 3-hour mark, which is much longer than I would like. Annoyingly Mando’s trip to see Grogu completely derails the story, interferes with pacing and adds a huge chunk of time. I really wish they hadn’t used this series to reunite Mando and Grogu.

If pacing is an issue, have you toyed with making Mando’s visit to Luke’s planet a flashback in itself? That way you avoid the awkwardness of Mando telling Fennec “yeah, I’ll help you out…after I run some errands first.”

The idea I’m currently trying to run with is having Mando’s visit to Luke/Grogu at the end of the movie as a sort of epilogue.
The main barrier to this is whether I can successfully remove Grogu from Tatooine……

This would also fit really well with it being Mando Episode 3 because it starts with Din losing his clan, but ends with him getting Grogu back (and helping Boba in the middle).

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I’m not sure how you could remove Grogu from Tatooine without resolving the whole rancor rampage thing.

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smudger9 said:

leftshoe18 said:

I’m not sure how you could remove Grogu from Tatooine without resolving the whole rancor rampage thing.

The rancor rampage can actually be cut by having Boba v Bane be the climax. Then cutting to the Fennec assassination scene.

Having you considered replacing the ‘Cobb Vanth in bacta tank/MOD-ifier guy’ scene with the humorous ‘Grogu getting a joyride in Mando’s ship’ scene as the post credit, therefore giving a more serious ending?

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smudger9 said:

The rancor rampage can actually be cut by having Boba v Bane be the climax. Then cutting to the Fennec assassination scene.

I like that, but logistically you’d need to keep Grogu on Tatooine otherwise there’s no existing reunion between him and Mando.


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I was thinking of just going with Mando part 3: “This is the Way” for the title, I think that works for Boba (seeing as how he has Mando armor), and Cobb Vance as well (since he HAD Mando armor).

I do think the rancor rampage needs to be kept, but can TOTALLY be trimmed, as well as pretty much EVERYTHING with the mods and Free Town’s people because, uhm, they wind up doing absolutely nothing since the Rancor comes up. (Although, you may have already cut that.) Also, some of the training stuff can be trimmed, and Ahsoka basically repeats herself in conversations with Din, plus, Din just hanging around can be trimmed as well, right?

(I do like the idea of having the final scene being Mando and Grogu in the ship, though.)

Excited to see how you do this.

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Chase Adams said:

smudger9 said:

The rancor rampage can actually be cut by having Boba v Bane be the climax. Then cutting to the Fennec assassination scene.

I like that, but logistically you’d need to keep Grogu on Tatooine otherwise there’s no existing reunion between him and Mando.

Technically you don’t really need to maintain Grogu on Taooine to have a Mando and Grogu reunion. CarboniteSolo give this idea for a sequence of events, what I think could work for the final:

-Have Din arrive and spend time talking with Ahsoka, Luke training Grogu, but omit the scene when Ahsoka talks about Grogu’s training being interrupted if he sees him.

-Luke asking Grogu if he wants the lightsaber or his friend’s gift.

-Then we see Din’s ship flying off the planet.

-The last scene is Grogu tapping on the glass and Din pushing the button to accelerate.

Plus, you could take the central lines of their reunion and paste somewhere in this footage, maybe in the scene where Din’s ship is flying off the planet.

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Sirius said:

Chase Adams said:

smudger9 said:

The rancor rampage can actually be cut by having Boba v Bane be the climax. Then cutting to the Fennec assassination scene.

I like that, but logistically you’d need to keep Grogu on Tatooine otherwise there’s no existing reunion between him and Mando.

Technically you don’t really need to maintain Grogu on Taooine to have a Mando and Grogu reunion. CarboniteSolo give this idea for a sequence of events, what I think could work for the final:

-Have Din arrive and spend time talking with Ahsoka, Luke training Grogu, but omit the scene when Ahsoka talks about Grogu’s training being interrupted if he sees him.

-Luke asking Grogu if he wants the lightsaber or his friend’s gift.

-Then we see Din’s ship flying off the planet.

-The last scene is Grogu tapping on the glass and Din pushing the button to accelerate.

Plus, you could take the central lines of their reunion and paste somewhere in this footage, maybe in the scene where Din’s ship is flying off the planet.

This sequence is my next task. This week I’ve been cutting together the Tatooine finale and have managed to completely remove Grogu, Pelli and the Major-domo. The resulting cut is actually really good although the audio is going to be challenging!

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smudger9 said:

Sirius said:

Chase Adams said:

smudger9 said:

The rancor rampage can actually be cut by having Boba v Bane be the climax. Then cutting to the Fennec assassination scene.

I like that, but logistically you’d need to keep Grogu on Tatooine otherwise there’s no existing reunion between him and Mando.

Technically you don’t really need to maintain Grogu on Taooine to have a Mando and Grogu reunion. CarboniteSolo give this idea for a sequence of events, what I think could work for the final:

-Have Din arrive and spend time talking with Ahsoka, Luke training Grogu, but omit the scene when Ahsoka talks about Grogu’s training being interrupted if he sees him.

-Luke asking Grogu if he wants the lightsaber or his friend’s gift.

-Then we see Din’s ship flying off the planet.

-The last scene is Grogu tapping on the glass and Din pushing the button to accelerate.

Plus, you could take the central lines of their reunion and paste somewhere in this footage, maybe in the scene where Din’s ship is flying off the planet.

This sequence is my next task. This week I’ve been cutting together the Tatooine finale and have managed to completely remove Grogu, Pelli and the Major-domo. The resulting cut is actually really good although the audio is going to be challenging!

Sounds amazing 😍

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Sirius said:

Chase Adams said:

smudger9 said:

The rancor rampage can actually be cut by having Boba v Bane be the climax. Then cutting to the Fennec assassination scene.

I like that, but logistically you’d need to keep Grogu on Tatooine otherwise there’s no existing reunion between him and Mando.

Technically you don’t really need to maintain Grogu on Taooine to have a Mando and Grogu reunion. CarboniteSolo give this idea for a sequence of events, what I think could work for the final:

-Have Din arrive and spend time talking with Ahsoka, Luke training Grogu, but omit the scene when Ahsoka talks about Grogu’s training being interrupted if he sees him.

-Luke asking Grogu if he wants the lightsaber or his friend’s gift.

-Then we see Din’s ship flying off the planet.

-The last scene is Grogu tapping on the glass and Din pushing the button to accelerate.

Plus, you could take the central lines of their reunion and paste somewhere in this footage, maybe in the scene where Din’s ship is flying off the planet.

Managed to cut this together this evening. Actually didn’t take too much work and the result is really good.
Here is the sequence:

  1. Final scene of BOBF Ep7 where the shot pans from Mos Espa up to space to the N1 Starfighter. Use the full shot until it cuts to Grogu (that is cut).
  2. Cut in the scene aboard the star liner with the Rhodian child as he sees the N1 straighter move past. Keep the shot of Mando nodding to him (works as a great pointer to where Mando is going).
  3. Cut in an onboard shot of Mando on the N1 and a shot of him punching in the booster.
  4. Cut back to the Rhodian child as you see the N1 speed off in the glass reflection.
  5. Wipe to the N1 Starfighter exiting hyperspace above Verdant (I may cut in an on-board hyperspace exit shot of Mando on the Razorcrest from S1).
  6. The scenes on Verdant then play out with some cutting done.
  7. Edited so that Mando doesn’t leave after he hands Ahsoka the beskar vest.
  8. Altered Luke’s line “the Mandalorian was here” to the “Mandalorian is here”.
  9. Run sequence as Luke ponders what to do with Grogu and cut in shot of Mando looking up at them (Zoomed to cut out Ahsoka). This reminds us that Mando is still there.
  10. Wipe from Mando shot to the completed hut.
  11. Run the Grogu “choice” scene with an extended close up shot of Grogu at the end.
  12. Hard cut from close-up of Grogu in the hut to close-up of Grogu on the N1 Starfighter. Switch to the wide shot of the N1 and then run the sequence, ending with the Iris-out.

Boom! Works so much better than I expected and this is how I will now edit it.

Last tasks are to tighten up the middle of the Boba-Tatooine storyline and then decide on how many and how much to put into Boba’s flashbacks. Current runtime is 2h 55min, but I’m hoping to trim it back to 2h 45mins.

Its all coming together really nicely.

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Good to know you are achieving your goals with your edit, smudger! This is a really tricky edit, considering the series problems.

One of the big flaws of BOBF to me was not establish the connection between Boba and Bane early on the story. Bane isn’t mentioned a single time before, so their settlement in the end is weak, emotionally speaking. I had one idea that maybe could help a bit in this aspect, that is using AI voice lines to establish the relationship between the two. In their fight, Bane mentions a “final lesson” to Boba. Maybe, when Boba was talking to Fennec in the desert about abandoning his current life style (in the flashbacks), he could talk about Bane being his mentor in the adolescence and how he introduced Boba to the bounty hunter life, and that they parted ways (or something like that). Then, their final fight would have some meaning, i.e, to won Bane, Boba had to change his bounty hunter fighting style to the Tuskens one, this way symbolically abandoning the life Bane put him into and embracing the new life based on the Tuskens creeds.

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Boba and Bane have a relationship that is built up over TCW, which paves the way for the resolution here. The only problem is, you have to have seen that show for it to have any meaning, which isn’t great if it’s the crux of your new show’s finale.

The sudden inclusion of Mando was enough to clue me into “ah, they’re going to draw on other SW content for their main structure and content, and assume we already know about it,” so at least they signalled it. It makes me wonder - how do you even measure good narrative structure and setup any more in the digital information age? But that’s a whole other conversation.

It’s a shame TCW is animated, because otherwise you could use it as flashbacks in the bacta tank. Perhaps just some audio of the two speaking could be put over footage of Boba sleeping in the tank, to imply a memory/nightmare?

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CaptainFaraday said:

It’s a shame TCW is animated, because otherwise you could use it as flashbacks in the bacta tank. Perhaps just some audio of the two speaking could be put over footage of Boba sleeping in the tank, to imply a memory/nightmare?

Audio could certainly work as it’s the same voice actor. I could put in a brief flash of Bane’s face with a blurred outline.

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Have you settled on a title yet? I was thinking something akin to the name of Chapter 2: “The Tribes of Tatooine” would work, since the main focus of this adventure is on Tatooine and it’s different factions - The tuskens, the mods, the people of Freetown, the houses of Mos Espa - not to mention Boba’s goal throughout revolves around forming a “tribe” of his own. Of course, it depends on how much of this through-line remains in your edit, but even the Mando stuff is also heavly focused on “tribes” - the Mandalorian and the Jedi.

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Been working on a boba fett edit myself but ran into a problem with the downloads I downloaded the series under the name of kogi! Just a word of warning these downloads are jumpy!
A lot of scenes get a jump in the frame every now and then I downloaded from another source called Nosivid and no jumps! Just thought I would let u know.

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I’ve now edited together the final battle. I’ve cut Grogu and the Majordomo (which will allow me to completely remove the dreaded vespa chase) and it works really well. The audio is done except for the two music transitions into and out of the sequence, which I will re-score later.

Here is the link if you want to view it.
Password is my username

https://vimeo.com/683662024

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The editing looks great! faaar better than what we’ve got in the original 😉

Though I still think Boba talks too much 😃

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Looking great smudger!

Like szopman said above I do think it could use some trimming of the dialogue. Something I’d really like to see in the edit is less “smart Fennec -stupid Boba”. I hate that Fennec always has to talk him in the right direction. It just further drives the wedge in his past self being the most fearsome bounty hunter, when he constantly makes stupid moves. You should try removing Fennec talking Boba out of attacking Bane in that scene. Just have him make the smart decision of being more calculated when going against Bane, instead of external forces motivating him to be.

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WitchDR said:

Looking great smudger!

Like szopman said above I do think it could use some trimming of the dialogue. Something I’d really like to see in the edit is less “smart Fennec -stupid Boba”. I hate that Fennec always has to talk him in the right direction. It just further drives the wedge in his past self being the most fearsome bounty hunter, when he constantly makes stupid moves. You should try removing Fennec talking Boba out of attacking Bane in that scene. Just have him make the smart decision of being more calculated when going against Bane, instead of external forces motivating him to be.

Good idea about the Fennec/Boba dialogue. I’ll see how it feels when I watch the full edit. I agree it makes Boba look weaker, but I like that it adds something to the Fennec-Boba relationship.

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WitchDR said:

Looking great smudger!

Like szopman said above I do think it could use some trimming of the dialogue. Something I’d really like to see in the edit is less “smart Fennec -stupid Boba”. I hate that Fennec always has to talk him in the right direction. It just further drives the wedge in his past self being the most fearsome bounty hunter, when he constantly makes stupid moves. You should try removing Fennec talking Boba out of attacking Bane in that scene. Just have him make the smart decision of being more calculated when going against Bane, instead of external forces motivating him to be.

I totally agree.

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Looks great, do wish that it would be possible to remove even more of the mods scenes. But that seems like it would be very difficult/impossible.

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Peonthegrate said:

Looks great, do wish that it would be possible to remove even more of the mods scenes. But that seems like it would be very difficult/impossible.

And there would be no footage left! I had to leave in a bit more of the mods/freetowners side of the battle than intended because a large chunk of the Mando side was cut to remove Grogu, Pelli & the Majordomo.

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