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Heya everyone,

Was looking for some critiques on Lando’s arrival. It’s definitely far from perfect. I have barely any remote form of editting skills. Wanted to give some bigger “feels” of the galaxy fleet arriving.

https://vimeo.com/561467060

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For whatever reason, the audio sounded better to me when it was playing in final cut, not using VLC or another player. I added in boba fett and mando, because u do see a shot of the Slave I and a mandalorian fang fighter (for like a milli second of a milli second, if that counts for anything). I’m currently working on getting more “for skywalker!!!” lines for a certain moment. Feel free to bash and maybe enjoy =D

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jadenkorr41 said:

Heya everyone,

Was looking for some critiques on Lando’s arrival. It’s definitely far from perfect. I have barely any remote form of editting skills. Wanted to give some bigger “feels” of the galaxy fleet arriving.

https://vimeo.com/561467060

password: fanedit

For whatever reason, the audio sounded better to me when it was playing in final cut, not using VLC or another player. I added in boba fett and mando, because u do see a shot of the Slave I and a mandalorian fang fighter (for like a milli second of a milli second, if that counts for anything). I’m currently working on getting more “for skywalker!!!” lines for a certain moment. Feel free to bash and maybe enjoy =D

I absolutely love this. Some of the scene resolution quality is a little low and noticeable but I may be able to help with those if you let me know the sources?

Also, I’ve seen a Star Destroyer in Hyperspace but can’t remember where, Can anyone help me out?

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Movies Remastered said:

jadenkorr41 said:

Heya everyone,

Was looking for some critiques on Lando’s arrival. It’s definitely far from perfect. I have barely any remote form of editting skills. Wanted to give some bigger “feels” of the galaxy fleet arriving.

https://vimeo.com/561467060

password: fanedit

For whatever reason, the audio sounded better to me when it was playing in final cut, not using VLC or another player. I added in boba fett and mando, because u do see a shot of the Slave I and a mandalorian fang fighter (for like a milli second of a milli second, if that counts for anything). I’m currently working on getting more “for skywalker!!!” lines for a certain moment. Feel free to bash and maybe enjoy =D

I absolutely love this. Some of the scene resolution quality is a little low and noticeable but I may be able to help with those if you let me know the sources?

Also, I’ve seen a Star Destroyer in Hyperspace but can’t remember where, Can anyone help me out?

thanks MR! I actually have it in 4K HDR, but vimeo wont let me upload a larger file. I’m guessing the scenes u are referring to are the ackbar and nien nub parts. Perhaps after doing some audio clean ups/adjustments, I can upload a prores version and let the experts tinker around with it.

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jadenkorr41 said:

Movies Remastered said:

jadenkorr41 said:

Heya everyone,

Was looking for some critiques on Lando’s arrival. It’s definitely far from perfect. I have barely any remote form of editting skills. Wanted to give some bigger “feels” of the galaxy fleet arriving.

https://vimeo.com/561467060

password: fanedit

For whatever reason, the audio sounded better to me when it was playing in final cut, not using VLC or another player. I added in boba fett and mando, because u do see a shot of the Slave I and a mandalorian fang fighter (for like a milli second of a milli second, if that counts for anything). I’m currently working on getting more “for skywalker!!!” lines for a certain moment. Feel free to bash and maybe enjoy =D

I absolutely love this. Some of the scene resolution quality is a little low and noticeable but I may be able to help with those if you let me know the sources?

Also, I’ve seen a Star Destroyer in Hyperspace but can’t remember where, Can anyone help me out?

thanks MR! I actually have it in 4K HDR, but vimeo wont let me upload a larger file. I’m guessing the scenes u are referring to are the ackbar and nien nub parts. Perhaps after doing some audio clean ups/adjustments, I can upload a prores version and let the experts tinker around with it.

I was indeed! The colour seems really off too but I’d love to work with you on this one if you like?

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Movies Remastered said:

jadenkorr41 said:

Movies Remastered said:

jadenkorr41 said:

Heya everyone,

Was looking for some critiques on Lando’s arrival. It’s definitely far from perfect. I have barely any remote form of editting skills. Wanted to give some bigger “feels” of the galaxy fleet arriving.

https://vimeo.com/561467060

password: fanedit

For whatever reason, the audio sounded better to me when it was playing in final cut, not using VLC or another player. I added in boba fett and mando, because u do see a shot of the Slave I and a mandalorian fang fighter (for like a milli second of a milli second, if that counts for anything). I’m currently working on getting more “for skywalker!!!” lines for a certain moment. Feel free to bash and maybe enjoy =D

I absolutely love this. Some of the scene resolution quality is a little low and noticeable but I may be able to help with those if you let me know the sources?

Also, I’ve seen a Star Destroyer in Hyperspace but can’t remember where, Can anyone help me out?

thanks MR! I actually have it in 4K HDR, but vimeo wont let me upload a larger file. I’m guessing the scenes u are referring to are the ackbar and nien nub parts. Perhaps after doing some audio clean ups/adjustments, I can upload a prores version and let the experts tinker around with it.

I was indeed! The colour seems really off too but I’d love to work with you on this one if you like?

Hell yes! First collab, let’s go! I think those two scenes are RotJ deleted scenes. I’ve upscaled them to 4K and added hdr to them, but I agree their lighting seems off. I used final cut “color matching” to do an amateur cheap level of adding some blue tint (to match exegol).

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This is really cool! It would be awesome to add some more from other places if there’s any to be found. My personal suggestion is to cut to some of the more nondescript pilots first before cutting to someone as recognisable as Boba Fett. Also, the shot of Mando pushing the throttle fits in so perfectly.

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I agree with the order. Just working on a bunch of additions. Hopefully, I can age them and animate the few frames we see them arriving. Here’s a rough concept https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6_B2xFF7NiDuQ7nyt35oRw/community?lb=UgztVt2ZtmH14TIc-6Z4AaABCQ

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CaptainFaraday said:

This is really cool! It would be awesome to add some more from other places if there’s any to be found. My personal suggestion is to cut to some of the more nondescript pilots first before cutting to someone as recognisable as Boba Fett. Also, the shot of Mando pushing the throttle fits in so perfectly.

Thanks for the feedback Capt Fara. Yeah, I’m still looking for other pilot in a ship that matches to insert in there. Variety is the goal.

The icing on the cake would be a live action version of someone in the Ghost ship. Oh that would be the win win, but no one in live action yet 😉

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jadenkorr41 said:

Heya everyone,

Was looking for some critiques on Lando’s arrival. It’s definitely far from perfect. I have barely any remote form of editting skills. Wanted to give some bigger “feels” of the galaxy fleet arriving.

The shift in music at 1:10 is jarring, as is the faint image of Luke.

Instead of cutting back and forth between the cockpit shots and the sweeping shot of the fleet, just finish the shot of the fleet, then move onto the cockpit shots all back to back and it will flow much nicer.

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Gravedigging from the Ascendant thread. Posted this here specifically because of sherlock’s suggestion. CONTEXT

@sherklock Apologies for the delay. Just didn’t think of a proper response at the time.

sherlockpotter said:

I don’t really think this is the time or place to talk about Rey’s arc. Unless Hal is willing to upend the entire structure of the film for V2, that should be kept in the Redux thread, methinks.

I’ll just say that I disagree with your analysis, Testing. There’s a lot of circular logic in your points, but I can only offer my own interpretation. I don’t think Rey’s arc was ever about being “loved”; it was about finding where she belongs. They’re similar, but not exactly the same. She doesn’t need other people to love her; hence why she was initially tough with Finn, rather than friendly. But she immediately likes Han, who represents a new mission. After Han she tries to go with Luke, when Luke fails her she goes to Kylo. She wants to belong with other people; she doesn’t want to be admired by them. That’s why her Force Vision shows her with no one but herself.

Maz even explictedly tells her “The belonging you seek is not behind you, it is ahead.”

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She believes this lie that the only way to feel happy, to feel loved is if she gains approval from others as well as if she pleases others which would then result in said others giving her the validation she desires to make herself feel happy; why do you think she freed BB-8 from Teedo? Why do you think she bypassed the compressor on the Falcon? Why do you think she told Luke that she would not fail him in the way Kylo Ren did?

I mean, it didn’t seem like she was worried about gaining anyone’s approval on Jakku. (Remember when she didn’t sell BB-8?) And I just thought she did those things because she’s, ya know, nice? Maybe I’m reaching.

Again, let’s move this discussion to another forum though.

Nah. Below is why.

I don’t think Rey’s arc was ever about being “loved”; it was about finding where she belongs.

She clearly shows signs of low self-worth throughout the trilogy, especially TFA & TLJ:

She rejects the Skywalker saber and her place as a Hero from Maz (now, you could argue that she was scared, but she was calmed down by Maz immediately afterwards) - implies she doesn’t think she deserves to be the Hero.

She wants Luke and Ben to be the Hero in TLJ - implies she doesn’t think she deserves to be the Hero, and it’s only after the throne room scene when she is forced to be said Hero.

She bypasses the compressor, literally spells it out word-by-word to him desperately, he shrugs it off without caring and this causes Rey to look away in disappointment - implies she seeks validation, and in turn that she doesn’t give herself any self-value. She also cries in TLJ when she realizes she’s failed to redeem Kylo, that she’s let the Resistance down.

She overcompensates by trying to show her worth, trying to prove herself to others, like when she insists: “Kylo failed you, I won’t.” This is also something Kylo addresses in TRoS: “You wanted to prove to my mother that you were a Jedi, but you’ve proven something else.”

She hastily attaches herself to other people, including Han, to the point where she cries whilst seeing him being brutally murdered by Ren despite barely ever spending time with him.

She blames herself for apparently killing Chewie in TRoS.

She has misplaced and inappropriate outbursts of anger, especially in TLJ (when she hits Luke from behind) and TRoS (when she stabs Kylo), despite having no reason to, other than an unconscious core belief of self-worthlessness being the only explanation.

She doesn’t need other people to love her; hence why she was initially tough with Finn, rather than friendly.

What? BB-8 convinced her that Finn stole Poe’s jacket. And he’s literally grabbing her hand without permission despite her being capable of escaping from the TIEs on her own.

But she immediately likes Han, who represents a new mission.

No. She sees him as a father figure, as Kylo confirms in TFA and TLJ, respectively. And, as I stated, she seeks validation/admiration from him, as shown in the compressor scene.

After Han she tries to go with Luke, when Luke fails her she goes to Kylo.

No. She sees Luke as a father figure as well and seeks her place to use it to justify her parents’ abandonment of her so she wouldn’t feel worthless, and she goes to Kylo because she was alone in the cave and didn’t want to feel alone - which is another symptom of her feelings of self-worthlessness, as she could just give herself some kind of feeling so she wouldn’t feel alone when it’s just her. You get the point.

I mean, it didn’t seem like she was worried about gaining anyone’s approval on Jakku. (Remember when she didn’t sell BB-8?)

My pointers of Rey seeking validation rely on inferences and subtext. They don’t have to be explicitly shown or addressed in the movie, otherwise it’d be spoonfeeding/pandering/yadda yadda, you get the point.

You do have a point about Rey not selling BB-8 to Unkar, but I still stand by my other points of her seeking validation from people.

Maz even explictedly tells her “The belonging you seek is not behind you, it is ahead.”

She needs belonging so she wouldn’t feel alone, as stated above.

And I just thought she did those things because she’s, ya know, nice? Maybe I’m reaching.

Yeah, you’re reaching. And I debunked those pointers above.

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CaptainFaraday said:

This is really cool! It would be awesome to add some more from other places if there’s any to be found. My personal suggestion is to cut to some of the more nondescript pilots first before cutting to someone as recognisable as Boba Fett. Also, the shot of Mando pushing the throttle fits in so perfectly.

Thanks for the feedback Capt Fara. Yeah, I’m still looking for other pilot in a ship that matches to insert in there. Variety is the goal.

The icing on the cake would be a live action version of someone in the Ghost ship. Oh that would be the win win, but no one in live action yet 😉

Absolutely. Rebels is my favourite piece of SW media. There’s gotta be some good cosplayers out there with a 4k camera, surely!

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CaptainFaraday said:

jadenkorr41 said:

CaptainFaraday said:

This is really cool! It would be awesome to add some more from other places if there’s any to be found. My personal suggestion is to cut to some of the more nondescript pilots first before cutting to someone as recognisable as Boba Fett. Also, the shot of Mando pushing the throttle fits in so perfectly.

Thanks for the feedback Capt Fara. Yeah, I’m still looking for other pilot in a ship that matches to insert in there. Variety is the goal.

The icing on the cake would be a live action version of someone in the Ghost ship. Oh that would be the win win, but no one in live action yet 😉

Absolutely. Rebels is my favourite piece of SW media. There’s gotta be some good cosplayers out there with a 4k camera, surely!

Hmmm if I can’t find that footage. Maybe a zoomed up shot of the ghost in focus and heras voice “ghost or Phoenix squadron standing by” or whatever their go to line is

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jadenkorr41 said:

CaptainFaraday said:

jadenkorr41 said:

CaptainFaraday said:

This is really cool! It would be awesome to add some more from other places if there’s any to be found. My personal suggestion is to cut to some of the more nondescript pilots first before cutting to someone as recognisable as Boba Fett. Also, the shot of Mando pushing the throttle fits in so perfectly.

Thanks for the feedback Capt Fara. Yeah, I’m still looking for other pilot in a ship that matches to insert in there. Variety is the goal.

The icing on the cake would be a live action version of someone in the Ghost ship. Oh that would be the win win, but no one in live action yet 😉

Absolutely. Rebels is my favourite piece of SW media. There’s gotta be some good cosplayers out there with a 4k camera, surely!

Hmmm if I can’t find that footage. Maybe a zoomed up shot of the ghost in focus and heras voice “ghost or Phoenix squadron standing by” or whatever their go to line is

Maybe zoom in on a 4k shot from Rogue One with the Ghost, and then dub over any of their dialogue from the show that fits.

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The trouble with the Rogue One clip is that it’s facing the wrong way. There is an ILM clip that passes through the fleet which is incredible but it was only a low render. Why design all those ships if you’re not gonna add some awesome cinematic shots to show them off?

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Originally posted the following in the Ascendant thread.

I pretty much re-wrote the dialogue in the first scene with Kylo Ren and Palpatine. Some lines are changed to make them feel less Chris Terrio-y, some are changed as I feel they sound more right than in the original film, I’m not going to spoil the rest, but they do have footnotes.

I feel like some of the new dialogue can be accomplished through AI synthesizers or whatever. Anyway, here you go.


[The enormous Sith Citadel comes into view, shrouded in darkness and lightning. Ren leaves his ship, draws his lightsaber and activates it as he walks to the temple’s opening. Brief cut to black. Ren descends down a hexagonal platform into the catacombs of the planet, filled with worn statues of ancient Sith.]

PALPATINE: At last.

[The platform finally lands. Ren, seeming uneasy, makes his way towards the source of the whisper, as lightning illuminates in the darkness.]

PALPATINE: [continued] Snoke trained you well.

KYLO REN: I killed Snoke, and I’ll kill you.[1]

PALPATINE: My boy, Snoke was just your beginning. I have influenced everything [as Snoke] you have ever heard [as Vader] all your life. [breathes]

[Ren, unshaken, proceeds further into the citadel, his path lit by the blade. He eventually wanders into a room in the citadel filled with Sith acolytes, connecting wires to a vat filled with red liquid and several mangled, deteriorating bodies — all closely resembling Palpatine, unique from each other in their own mutilated ways, except for one that closely resembles Snoke, but with some of Palpatine’s facial features[2].]

PALPATINE: The First Order was your failure. I can give you so much more.[3]

KYLO REN: No. You’ll die instead.[4]

PALPATINE: I have died before.

[Ren turns around to seek the source of the voice.]

PALPATINE: The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be… [lightning illuminates his face] unnatural.

[It is clear that his body hasn’t exactly been so kind to Palpatine. His body is frail, his skin pale. He spreads his mangled fingers[5]. Ren thrusts his saber forwards, holding it mere inches away from the former Emperor’s throat.]

KYLO REN: What could you give me?

PALPATINE: Everything.

[Meanwhile, a massive fleet of Xyston-class Star Destroyers breaks through the icy ground and emerges into the tempestuous sky.]

PALPATINE: The might of the Sith Eternal[6] will soon be ready. It’ll be yours if you do as I ask — kill the girl, then strike me down in anger, and my spirit will pass on into you. We will be one. We will rule together as the new Emperor.[7]

[Kylo Ren lowers his saber.]

PALPATINE: But beware, she is not who you think she is.

KYLO REN: Who is she?

[Palpatine smiles sinisterly as thunder rumbles and the scene cuts to black.]


[1] Yes, the “and” is intentional. So it’d sound a bit more… right. Yeah.

[2] This would replace the original theatrical shot with Snoke clones and poppasketti’s current shot with Palpatine clones. It drives home the inference that Palpatine is shitty at making clones — let alone any lifeform — with his tech, whilst also having to sacrifice the explicit nature of the reveal that Palpatine manufactured Snoke himself, pushing said reveal into inference… that Snoke was made from another one of Palpatine’s shitty, failed clones.

[3] One idea the film establishes is that the First Order hasn’t exactly doing so well in the year after The Last Jedi. It is reinforced by the First Order seeming smaller than in the previous two films, and Kylo Ren wanting to take Palpatine’s fleet for himself so the First Order would, as he, himself, puts it, “become a new Empire.” This change reinforces that, and I feel it helps separate the First Order from Palpatine and his fleet and makes it more of its own thing.

[4] I changed it to that because, well… basically, I’m like: “How would Palpatine dying first give Kylo Ren the ‘more’, exactly?”

[5] Yes, the shot of his hands is moved here, to immediately drive the point home that his clone body is rotting and decaying. And I feel that, as a side effect, that it’d get MisAnthro Pony to shut up about Palpatine lifting the fleet.

[6] In canon, that is the title of Palpatine’s Sith cult. However, here, it is used to refer to the fleet as a whole, replacing the title “Final Order”, as I feel Palpatine would want the Sith to be eternal and rule for eternity, you get the picture. Hopefully, other lines that reference this name can be AI-changed into “Sith Eternal”.

[7] This accomplishes a similar goal to in the actual Ascendant edit — setting up the stakes for later. I do like the idea in the actual edit, but I feel it muddies Palpatine’s plans and the inference that he has been planning to possess Kylo Ren after he kills Rey and, thus, destroys his “conflicted soul”. So, I made the inference from the theatrical cut explicit. Yes, the parallel to The Last Jedi was intentional.

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Movies Remastered said:

The trouble with the Rogue One clip is that it’s facing the wrong way. There is an ILM clip that passes through the fleet which is incredible but it was only a low render. Why design all those ships if you’re not gonna add some awesome cinematic shots to show them off?

Could it just be mirrored? The Ghost is a pretty symmetrical ship. Or do you mean it’s facing backwards?

I haven’t seen the ILM clip. Sounds frustratingly cool, though.

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Movies Remastered said:

Yeah, It’s backward. Here’s the other ILM clip 2:50 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9d1bkRC0Hs

I may still try to blur it for a background shot or something.

I couldn’t actually spot the Ghost in there after watching it a couple of times, sadly.

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Anakin Starkiller said:

jadenkorr41 said:

Heya everyone,

Was looking for some critiques on Lando’s arrival. It’s definitely far from perfect. I have barely any remote form of editting skills. Wanted to give some bigger “feels” of the galaxy fleet arriving.

The shift in music at 1:10 is jarring, as is the faint image of Luke.

Instead of cutting back and forth between the cockpit shots and the sweeping shot of the fleet, just finish the shot of the fleet, then move onto the cockpit shots all back to back and it will flow much nicer.

I’ve toyed around with cockpit shots first, then sweeping shot or vice versa or back and forth but multiple cockpit shots. Yeah the audio has some issues, I’ll post an updated clip at some point. Thx for your feedback!

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Rewatching Clone Wars recently, I’d love if it were possible to refer to Exegol as “Moraband” throughout the film, just to keep “the ancient Sith home world” in line with prior canon. But I feel like the name “Exegol” is said too many times and by too many people to make redubbing feasible. Thoughts?

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I think it makes more sense if Exegol was the place they went after Moraband fell, because we’ve already seen Moraband and there’s less reason for the characters to need to look for it. Especially since the character who initially says “Exegol does not appear on any star chart” is R2-D2, the one character who should know exactly where Moraband is, since he’s already been there.

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