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#1039658
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AC-3 RF to RF Demodulator
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A single RCA audio cable, like this…


…plugged from the coaxial output port of the Demodulator to the coaxial input port of your receiver/amplifier will work just as good.

This setup got me through before I upgraded to HDMI ports.

Edit:
If you are connecting to an audio card of your computer, you’ll need an RCA Male to 3.5mm Male Cable, like this…

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#1034886
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The Original Trilogy restored from 35mm prints
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Say, Poita,
Are you aware that in the German Print/Reel 3 scan, there’s some cropping?

Here is one frame from the scan of the German print.

And here is the same frame from the UK print.

In the area between the 2 yellow lines is the picture information as it appears in the scan of the German print. The areas above the upper yellow line and below the bottom yellow line are what are missing in the German print scan.

Was this a glitch in the scanning device?

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#1033357
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Harmy's THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Despecialized Edition HD !!!MKV and AVCHD v2.0 NOW AVAILABLE!!!
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Revolution said:

Is there any interest in obtaining a true 5.1 source or using the 6.1 source from the blu >rays etc?

  • Rev

If you need to cure your 5.1 fix, on the 'spleen there are audio files for the Star Wars Original Trilogy (aka. GOUT) that uses the rarely heard 1997 Special Edition sound mix made from the original CinemaDTS CD-ROM discs. Of course, portions of the audio include the sound mix from the GOUT to patch over footages where the 1997 SE audio would be out-of-place.

Just mux these to the MKV video and you are good to go.

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#1029732
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The Original Trilogy restored from 35mm prints
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Here are the shots that have missing frames from the red –faded version of the portion of Reel 2 from the German print of ESB.

As you have requested, I am identifying the skip-frames of these shots from the scan as file names that are posted on the bottom of each frame in the scan. I hope that I am interpreting your request.

For GOUT References, I’ll be using this timestamp format–Time (mm:ss.ff) / Frames numbers,

Han Fixing Falcon

File Names:
SRC TC/Fm: 01:00:00:01/1 through SRC TC/Fm: 01:00:03:19/91, Number of Frames: 91
GOUT Frames Missing: 10. They should appear before file name, SRC TC/Fm: 01:00:00:01/1

GOUT References:
Harmy’s: 21:22.05/30743-30834, Number of Frames: 101
Renegade Grindhouse ESB: Print has missing frames also.

Veers leaves Vader, upper half of Vader’s chamber lifts to reveal viewing screen

File Names:
SRC TC/Fm: 01:01:48:22/2614 through SRC TC/Fm: 01:02:06:05/3029, Number of Frames: 416
GOUT Frames Missing: 7. They should appear between Files Names, 01:01:58:22/2854 and 01:01:58:23/2855. In those 7 missing frames, the static on the viewing screen would dissolve to the image of the officers. In the German print, the static image on the viewing screen jump-cuts to the image of the officers.

GOUT References
Harmy’s: 23:11.15/33366-33788, Number of Frames: 423
Renegade Grindhouse ESB: 23:10.21/33348-33770, Number of Frames: 423

Vader’s Medium Shot

Files Names:
SRC TC/Fm: 01:02:06:06/3030 through 01:02:10:07/3127, Number of Frames: 98
GOUT Missing Frames 24.
There are two skip frames in this shot.
The 1st one occurs between file names 01:02:09:18/3114 and 01:02:09:19/3115. In 01:02:09:18/3114, there are two dark horizontal lines on the bottom of that frame and on 01:02:09:19/3115, there is one dark horizontal line on the top of that frame.
The 2nd skip frame occurs after file number 01:02:10:07/3127, where there are two horizontal lines on the bottom of the screen

GOUT Reference:
Harmy’s : 23:29.06/33789-33910, Number of Frames: 122
Renegade Grindhouse: 23:28.12/33771-33892, Number of Frames: 122

Vader’s Viewing Screen: Ozzel gasps for air, Piett reacts

File Names:
SRC TC/Fm: 01:02:10:08/3128 through 01:02:11:00/3144, Number of frames: 17
In those missing frames, which should appear before file name-01:02:10:08/3128, Ozzel’s gasping face would go from full-face, move backward, and turn to profile.

GOUT Reference:
Harmy’s: 23:34.08/33911-34025, Number of Frames: 115
Renegade Grindhouse: 23:33.14/33893-34007, Number of Frames: 115

Luke Opens Belly compartment of Snowwalker with Lightsaber

File Names:
SRC TC/Fm 01:11:01:23/15887 through 01:11:06:16/16000, Number of frames: 114
GOUT Missing Frames: 37
Missing frames should appear after file name 01:11:06:16/16000

GOUT Reference:
Harmy’s: 32:30.14/46768-46918, Number of frames: 151
Renegade Grindhouse: 32:29.18/46748-46898, Number of frames: 151

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#1029546
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The Original Trilogy restored from 35mm prints
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Here is my analysis of the shots that have missing frames from a portion of Reel 2 of the German print of ESB.
GOUT Reference: Harmy’s ESB Despecialized Edition. MKV video, 23.975fps.
Additional Reference: Renegade Grindhouse ESB. M2ts video of release print scan, 23.975fps.

For each source of each shot, I’ll be using this format to describe position of the length of the video:
Time (mm:ss.ff) / Frames numbers,

Han Fixing Falcon

GOUT: 21:22.05/30743-30834, Number of Frames: 101
Renegade Grindhouse: 21:21.13/30727-30825, Number of Frames: 99 (missing frames from the head-end of this shot)
UK Print: 00:00.01/1-91, Number of Frames: 91
Comments: 10 missing of the GOUT from the head-end of this shot

Veers leaves Vader, upper half of Vader’s chamber lifts to reveal viewing screen

GOUT: 23:11.15/33366-33788, Number of Frames: 423
Renegade Grindhouse: 23:10.21/33348-33770, Number of Frames: 423
UK Print: 01:44.14/2614-3029, Number of Frames: 416
Comments: Missing 7 frames. To be honest, I can’t find where the skip-frame is in the UK print. The shot looks physically clean.

Vader’s Medium Shot

GOUT: 23:29.06/33789-33910, Number of Frames: 122
Renegade Grindhouse: 23:28.12/33771-33892, Number of Frames: 122
UK Print: 02:01.05/3030-3127, Number of Frames: 98
Comments: Missing 24 frames. I am taking a guess that the missing frames are from the tail-end of this shot because of the shot that follows…

Vader’s Viewing Screen: Ozzel gasps for air, Piett reacts

GOUT: 23:34.08/33911-34025, Number of Frames: 115
Renegade Grindhouse: 23:33.14/33893-34007, Number of Frames: 115
UK Print: 02:05.03/3128-3144, Number of Frames: 17
Comments: 98 frames missing from the the head-end of this shot.

Luke opens belly compartment of snowwalker with lightsaber

GOUT: 32:30.14/46768-46918, Number of Frames: 151
Renegade Grindhouse: 32:29.18/46748-46898, Number of Frames: 151
UK Print: 10:35.12/15887-16000, Number of Frames: 114
Comments: 37 missing from the tail-end of this shot.

Total Number of Missing Frames: 176, over 7 seconds of footage

What is impressive about this print is that even though I know where the skip-frame is in a shot, I see no evidence of where a frame may have been damaged-- dried-on adhesive markings, a torn frame that is poorly pieced together, etc. Either some digital enhancement has been applied to the frame to remove the said anomalies or the person maintained this print very well.

JEDIT:
UK Print… Of course, I meant the German print. I’m sorry for that

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#1028658
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Harmy's THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Despecialized Edition HD !!!MKV and AVCHD v2.0 NOW AVAILABLE!!!
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Swift S. Lawliet said:

Excuse me, but how do I convert the raw .wav files of the 1993 mixes from schorman’s collection to DTS-HD Master Audio?

I am planning on doing a separate MKA with lossless 1993 mixes since Harmy only added the 1993 mixes in lossy Dolby Digital format.

I know the 1993 mixes aren’t theatrical mixes but I am partial to them since they were the most polished pre-1997 mixes IMO and are my favorite.

To encode the .wav file of the 2-channel ’93 mix to DTS-HD MA bitstream, you’ll need the software, DTS Master Suite and that costs $1500.

A much cheaper and effective alternative would be to download the free audio software, Audacity, sync up the ‘93 two-channel mix to the audio of the despecialized edition, and save your edit as one 2-channel .wav file. Your new edited .wav file of the ’93 mix will still be lossless–no compression is applied. Then, add (or mux) your new wav file to the MKV video using another free software, MKVToolNix

That is how I did it when I edited schorman13’s LaserDisc audio rip of Raiders of the Lost Ark to fit litemakr’s Raiders LPP scan.

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#1028425
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Harmy's THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Despecialized Edition HD !!!MKV and AVCHD v2.0 NOW AVAILABLE!!!
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It is possible to insert 6.1 sound from the Blu Ray to the Despecialized edition, however the Blu Ray is the special edition cut with added shots not seen in the Despecialized edition. Therefore, the audio would have to be edited down to fit the Despecialized edition. Also, special edition audio that would be inappropriate for the Despecialized edition have to be removed and replaced with the Despecialized audio, like Luke’s scream as he falls down the Bespin reactor shaft in the SE cut (what I hear among the OT community, that is a pet peeve).

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#1026542
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Star Wars Despecialized Editions - Custom Bluray Set
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As for audio files for LaserDisc audio mixes, our member–schorman13–made an archive where he ripped audio tracks–AC3 bitstream, digital and analogue stereo tracks–from all the LaserDisc releases and uploaded them. They are on the usual place.

You can read about it here:
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Star-Wars-Laser-Disc-Audio-Archive/id/14542

Mind you, these audio files are not Blu-Disc ready, so, if you are making discs of these, you are going to have do the work in:

  1. Upsampling them from 44.1kHz to 48kHz
  2. Sync’ing these tracks to what ever version of the video you like

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#1025411
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E.T. 35mm Feature
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On the 'spleen, someone uploaded a 1080i DTV capture of the 2002 (walking-talking) version of “E.T.”, but it’s in a Blu Ray ISO that includes other stuff–like the 90 minute “Making of E.T.” documentary that was available on the boxed LaserDisc version.

Also, the uploader admitted that the audio is out of sync with the video.

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#1024802
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The Best Theatrical Version of Each Movie?
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gsherwo said:
What does “grindhouse” mean in the context of Star Wars?

Around here, “grindhouse” is a term to unofficially, IMO, describe the type of a video-scan release of a movie print where there would be no digital photo retouching done to it, so the content would be in whatever the condition the release print was when it was scanned – complete with print marks, color fading, skipped frames, with a sound track that has clicks and pops in the background—just the way the audience in the theatre would have seen it.

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#1021135
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DESPECIALIZED EDITION <em>QUALITY CONTROL</em> THREAD - REPORT ISSUES HERE
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There have been several different sound mixes for that film over the years, so, it is not a surprise that the sound levels for each element–music, dialogue, spaceship fxs, creature fxs, etc–would be different in balance for each sound mix.

As far as what you can do about it? You can replace the audio for that scene with the one you like, but you may have to do some research on your own. There are a few free audio editing softwares out there. Perhaps doing a personal project like this will help you learn how to use these softwares.

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#1018404
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The Original Trilogy restored from 35mm prints
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oohteedee said:
here is what I discovered are missing frames of the reel scans
comparing against the bonus DVD gout version

oohteedee said:

My DVD gout may have the frame numbers off but look at frame 15496 on reel 3 as a reference to the frame I mean. On my gout it’s duplicated. I viewed the gout in QuickTime 7 on my Mac as that version shows a frame count.

I think another problem is that one is comparing the 35mm scan that is displayed at 23.97fps (frames per second) against a DVD that is displayed at 29.97fps.

All NTSC DVD videos are displayed at 29.97fps. Motion Pictures are displayed at 24fps. Speaking in lamen’s terms, to release a motion picture on DVD, a 3:2 pulldown scheme is used where a frame of a film is duplicated on 2 to 3 video frames (or fields) on a NTSC video in order for the video to match the film’s running time—for every set of 2 video frames that a single film frame is duplicated, a set of 3 video frames duplicates another single film frame.

That is why, oohteedee, you are getting duplicate frames on the DVD. You should be comparing the 35mm scan against Harmy’s Despecialized edition of the film. Both of them are displayed at 23.97fps.

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#1017686
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Amadeus - Theatrical Cut Restoration 1080p (V2)
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If you look at the Nov. 5th post of this thread…

http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Amadeus-Theatrical-Cut-Restoration-1080p-V2/id/16803/page/15

zxthehedgehog said:
…If anyone else wants it, just send me a PM instead of using this thread.

So, try PM’ing that member.

Also, from this very page…

zxthehedgehog said:
You may not be able to get in touch with jimbotron235, but Handman, myself, and a few others still send out PMs for it.

I hope all this helps.

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#1014492
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Star Wars-Episode I: The Phantom Menace print on sale at 35mm Forum
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…and that is all I can say, as per poita’s advice

poita said:
…please don’t post images or names from the 35mm forum here, it will get people banned from the 35mm forum.

So, I hope there is someone in or out of that forum that can be a hero and get it.

P.S: I would not dare disobey a person that is restoring a Star Wars print 😃
Edit: Just realized I posted in the wrong topic. That is what I get when I’m in a hurry to finish erands. 😠

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#1012835
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Missing Frames From Release Prints, But Not Caused by Damage
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Folks here in this forum have been blessed with getting access to video scans of release prints from their favorite films. Almost all the scans feature an audio of the print’s optical sound track. Although the optical track is appreciative for preservation, some of us would like to enjoy the quality of the print through better sound quality, like from Blu Ray, DVD, and/or LaserDisc versions, so, we attempt to mux one or more of these audio tracks to the video scan. After doing that, we find that the audio tracks won’t play in sync with the scan because the source—the release print—has missing frames. So, we either edit the audio to match the length of the scan or we extended the video to match the audio tracks—via black frames, duplicating one or more frames, etc.

We all know, by now, that one cause of why frames are missing from a release print is because of the damage that print gets through excessive playing through a film projector. After a while, the film breaks apart during projection; a frame, or two, is torn; and the two pieces of film are taped together. Other times, frames at the head or tail ends of a film’s reel are damaged because of an operator’s constant taping together and later removing a long strip of black leader used to thread to an empty reel for a projector.

This brings me to the another cause of missing frames—one that I would like an explanation to. These missing frames only appear in the home video releases and are not on the release prints. In the release prints, these missing frames occur either in the beginning of a shot or at the end of a shot. In the frame where a missing frame would either follow or precede, it has no evidence of damage –dried-on adhesive markings, a torn frame that is poorly pieced together, etc. Even if you purchased a film print where all the frames of each reel are complete, frames that appear in the home video edition would be absent from the print. Because of this, one would not be able to sync this complete print to any audio mix of any home video version unless you either edit the audio to fit the print or add frames on the scan of the print to fit the audio.

Here are some examples.
RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK (1981)
Here is the last frame of a shot from the release print (at 00:05:04 from Litemakr’s release)

Notice the position of Indy’s hammer.

From the Blu Ray, here is that same frame (00:04:11).

…followed by this next frame, not seen in the release print.

…and that is the last frame of this shot.
Now see all these frame together below.

Here is the last frame of another shot from the release print (00:50:59)

Notice the front-end cap of a German soldier that is about to appear.

Here is that same frame, as seen in the Blu Ray (00:50:09).

…followed by this theatrically unreleased frame.

Now, we have a face that goes with that cap.

EMPIRE STRIKES BACK (1980)
Here is the first frame of this shot from the release print (00:41:33).

Notice the position of R2’s red light on his dome in relation to his barrel.

On Harmy’s Despecialized Edition, here is the first frame of this same shot (00:41:33). Now look where his red light is.

This frame and 3 others, seen below, did not show up on the release print.

Our own Mavimao gave a detailed description on the process of creating release prints from the camera negative which you can read here, but here is my version of the process in a nutshell:

  • In a film processing lab, technician takes reels of the original camera negatives and cuts them into pieces
  • Technician edits the pieces together to match the edited work print
  • Technician takes edited camera negative and makes a high quality print of it called an interpositive
  • Interpositive can either be used to make release prints, or, for safety, make a negative out of that print called an internegative and use the internegative to make release prints.

I would think that the interpositive would be used for both theatrical runs and for home video releases. If so, why are frames from the edited camera negative left-out from the release prints but appear in the home video versions.

  • Did the lab’s equipment, somehow, overlook certain frames from the camera negative when making the interpositive?
  • Are the procedures for distributing a film different between making a release print and a home video master that frames get missing in the release print?

Please enlighten me.
Thanks.

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#1008865
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Project #4K77
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Williarob said:
I don’t know about you but I’d rather have a single slightly blurry frame than a black Flash!

Amen to that!
Having a sudden black Flash occur in a darkened room while watching a movie is like a painless, yet irritating, version of getting both your eyes poked.

However, I do respect your decision on using black frames as a last resort.

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#1008827
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Yet another HDTV based project...
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towne32 said:

There is an episode II 35mm print on ebay. It’s relisted after failing to sell for $750 last week. I’m not saying it’s worth it at all (for about 4 shots of the worst Star Wars film ever 😃 ), just that it’s the only way of making a theatrical AoTC.

That movie was originally shot on a digital camera, not on film. Even if the print can be purchased and scanned, can the quality of the film frames, transferred from a digital file, can match the video that we have here?

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