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#1006211
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team negative1 - star wars 1977 - 35mm theatrical version (release details and updates)
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The number of frames in the Silver Screen v.1.6 is the same as Harmys 2.7 and each frame from both editions have the same frame number. ( JEDI TRANSLATION: Both editions are GOUT sync’d to each other).

So, the answer to your question is yes—-all the audio options from Harmy’s 2.7 will play in perfect synchronization with the Silver Screen v.1.6 when muxed.

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#1001861
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Project #4K77
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Williarob said:
At that point, a grindhouse version would be the way to go. In the meantime I can assemble the Grindhouse version in parallel to the cleaned up version which will be considerably easier.

I’d welcome a grindhouse version, even with the accumulate print-dirt and skip-frames. Might as well throw a bone to Disney and have them do a proper GOUT UHD release. 😃

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#996977
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Harmy's RETURN OF THE JEDI Despecialized Edition HD (AVCHD DVD9 & NTSC DVD5 available!!! SEE FIRST POST!!!)
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I’ve just uploaded a DTS audio file for the GOUT version of Jedi with 5.1 channel 1997 Special Edition audio mix. I have edited the audio file to play in sync with this release.

To patch over certain GOUT footages where the SE audio would be inappropriate, I’ve used the film’s 1983 theatrical mix found in the 5.1 channel DTS audio stream of the Despecialized Edition. So, these audio files are 97.14% SE97 audio and 2.86% of GOUT audio.

I also made one for Harmy’s Jedi Grindhouse 35mm LPP.

Like all my other edited SE97 audio files, found on the ‘spleen, the source of the 1997 SE audio was from CapableMetal DTS files, found on the ‘spleen, where it was made from the Cinema DTS CD-ROM discs (from the collection of Jetrell Fo). The data from the discs was encrypted to 6 mono PCM wave files representing each channel of the film’s surround soundtrack. CapableMetal processed and sync’ed each of the 6 files to fit TB broadcasts of the SE97, so, the SE97 mix presented in this audio file is from CapableMetal’s work and I appreciate his effort and for his sharing, as well as, to Jetrell Fo for obtaining the discs.

This is just another way to view the GOUT version.

The reason for 2 audio files of the same film, featuring the same content, is because the difference in length of these Harmy releases. The DE 2.5 is the longest of the videos while the the Grindhouse version is a minute and a quarter shorter, despite the fact that it has been “NTSC GOUT sync’d” by way of black frames as substitutes for the missing frames of the release print. The only difference in my audio files is how I arranged the end credits music. I’ll explain.

In the GOUT version of ROTJ, John Williams’ original music for this film’s end credits was edited to fit the length of that version’s credit roll. For the film’s Special Edition, the length of the end credits was extended, so, Williams’ end credits music was almost restored–the edit in the Rebel fanfare at the start of the end credits from the GOUT version was retained in the SE97. Also, to accommodate the extra length of SE97 end credits, a portion of music for that roll was repeated—the Ewok music portion.

For the DE version of the audio file, I’ve removed that duplicate Ewok-music portion of the SE97 end credits edit. Despite the shortening, the music will still go past the official end credits and into the Despecialized credits, but the music will finish before those credits end.

For the Grindhouse version, using only the SE97 audio elements, I’ve recreated the end credits-music edit from the GOUT version.

FAQ:

What happends if I use the DE audio file for the Grindhouse?
Eventhough, the audio will play in-sync with the video, when the video reaches the end-the final video frame, the screen will go black and the timecode counter will stop, but the audio stream will continue until it reaches its end. That means you’ll hear music over Harmy’s “special-thanks” credits and when that is done, the music will continue until it finishes. *

OK, so, what happends if I mux the Grindhouse audio with the DE video?
Well, audio will play in perfect sync with the DE video. When the audio stream reaches its end (being that it’s shorter than the video), the video will play with no sound until it reaches the final frame. *

*= based on what I found when using my MPC-HC media player.

So the long and the short is that because both the DE and the Grindhouse have been sync’d together, whichever audio file you choose to download it will play in perfect sync with both videos, it is just a question of how much music from the end credits do you wish to have.

Enjoy.

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#992429
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Raiders of the Lost Ark HDTV 35mm LPP regrade
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Hey, anybody remember this vinyl album?

This album came out at the time of the film release. I bought it back in ’82 and it has been in my collection ever since. Inside the album, in addition to the record, is a booklet with color stills from the movie.

Among the photos are some stills that were taken from a print of the movie. I’ve made a scan of these photos and I’m presenting them here for examination of the print’s color timing







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#992098
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Harmy's THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Despecialized Edition HD !!!MKV and AVCHD v2.0 NOW AVAILABLE!!!
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I’ve just uploaded a set of audio files for the GOUT version of Empire featuring the 1997 Special Edition audio mix in DTS 5.1 channel sound. I have edited each audio file to play in sync with the following presentations:

  • Harmy’s The Empire Strikes Back Despecialized Edition 2.0
  • Team Negative1 - The Empire Strikes Back 1980 - 35mm Theatrical Version (aka, Renegade Grindhouse ESB)

To patch over certain GOUT footages where the SE audio would be inappropriate, I’ve used the film’s 1983 theatrical mix found in the 5.1 channel DTS audio stream of the Despecialized Edition. So, these audio files are 98.41% SE97 audio and 1.59% of GOUT audio.

The Special Edition mix is sourced from CapableMetal’s DTS file that was made from a set of Cinema DTS-CD ROM discs from the collection of Jetrell Fo. The data from the discs was extracted to a set of 6 PCM mono wave files representing the film’s surround soundtrack. Each audio file was processed and sync’d to fit TB broadcasts of the SE97 edition by CapableMetal, so, the SE97 mix presented in this audio file is from his work and I appreciate his effort and for his sharing, as well as, to Jetrell Fo for acquiring the discs.

FAQ:

Wouldn’t one audio file work with both the DE 2.0 and Grindhouse?

Well, let me start-off by saying that both videos are different in length.
The Renegade Grindhouse ESB is a scan of a theatrical release print and that print has missing frames from the GOUT version. By the time you get to an hour and 44 minutes into the movie (after the lightsaber duel at the carbon freeze chamber), 3 and a quarter seconds worth of footage would be missing from the print.
The Despecialized Edition runs over a minute and a half longer then the Grindhouse. Not only does this edition have the GOUT version uncut, but after the film’s official credits are done, a set of credits for this edition are displayed that add-on to the video’s length.
So, one audio file will not work for both releases because the audio will not be in good sync with one of the videos. That is why I’ve prepared an audio file for each version.

Kk650 released his color regrade of this film with the Cinema DTS Special Edition audio. Could I just mux that audio to either one of the said videos?

I suppose you could. As I do not have kk650 video, I can not say for certain. You would have to check the length of both kk650’s video and Harmy’s. If there is a difference, you would have to play with the audio delay to get a good sync. Here is a suggestion: Cue up both videos to the first frame where the Star Wars logo image appears, get the timecode position of that frame from both videos, calculate the difference from the timecode positions, and use that value–in hh:mm: ss:mmm—in your muxer’s delay adjuster. If it works out for you, then you do not need my DE audio file. If you do not want to do all that work, my file has done it for you.
However, for the Grindhouse version, I would bet that kk650’s audio would not be in good sync, especially by the time that video reaches the hour and 3 quarter mark because of the release print’s missing frames.

Enjoy.

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#990961
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team negative1 - star wars 1977 - 35mm theatrical version (release details and updates)
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Just a heads-up:

I’ve prepared a 5.1 DTS audio stream for the said release that contains the Special Edition ’97 mix of Star Wars:ANH with hairy_hen’s reconstruction of the 1977 70mm 6 track to patch up GOUT footages that the SE 97 audio would appear inappropriate. So, this audio stream is 95.47% of SE audio and 4.53% of GOUT audio

The audio has been edited to play in-sync with not only this release, but, also, Harmy’s Star Wars: Despecialized Edition 2.7

This is just another way to view the GOUT version. It can be found on the ‘spleen.

I’ve made these edits from the DTS-HD MA file, found on the 'spleen, provided by CapableMetal (not to be confused with the unprocessed and unsync’d wave files of the SE’97 trilogy also found on the 'spleen and provided by CapableMetal). The source of the SE’97 audio came from the Cinema DTS CD-ROM discs (from the collection of Jetrell Fo) where the data was encrypted to 6 mono PCM wave files representing each channel of the surround soundtrack. CapableMetal processed and sync’d each of the 6 files to fit TB broadcasts of the SE97, so, the SE97 mix presented in this audio file is from CapableMetal’s work and I appreciate his effort and for his sharing, as well, to Jetrell Fo for obtaining the discs.

After completing the file, the thought occurred to me that kk650 had released his color regrade of the Star Wars OT with the Cinema DTS audio of the SE97. I do not have these so I am not sure the audio can be played in sync with DE 2.7 or the Silver Screen v1.6. But I did the work anyway just for the fun of watching the ’77 release with the ’97 audio, so, I think that this is how one should approach it.

For what it’s worth, enjoy!

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#990419
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Alien/Aliens Color Regrade
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Since that film was released in the 1970’s, that was the standard surround sound configuration at that time–left(1), center(2), right(3), and 2 mono surround channels.

You can read more about here:
Dolby Digital 4.1 Surround - Alien Anthology

Edit:
I meant to say that the 4th channel is used for surround and that signal would have been sent to what ever number of rear speakers that auditorium had.

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#989719
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The GOUT Sync Thread
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From my reading, are you trying to add the German audio from Laserschwerts (Krieg der Sterne Despecialized Edition 2.5) to the video of official GOUT DVD?

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#989669
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An Interview with an employee of CBS/FOX Video
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Joshua724 said:

As much as I applaud fan efforts to preserve the pre-SE audio tracks via the laserdisc, they pail in comparison to the cassette recording my dad did while at CBS\FOX. I appreciate any and all offers to transfer the cassette we have to a digital format for later use. After talking with my dad, even though he did the recording for me (something that he could hand down) and I could do with it what I want, he made it conditional because it was meant only for me. But, we decided to purchase our own metal tape deck and plan on digitizing the track that way. I’ll figure out how to make it available after that. As far as which version it is, it’s before the SE. So, what does it matter? But, if you need a date, call it the CBS\FOX 1984 version of ESB.

I was inquiring as to how this project is coming out.

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#989208
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Movies available with isolated dialog and sound effects.
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There is that 1999 DVD release of Alien (1979) that has the production audio in one of the audio tracks, but the audio is not complete, as that track also has a few alternate music score cues. That feature has not been carried over to the 2003 DVD release nor the blu ray release.

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#986887
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RELEASED: Raiders of the Lost Ark 35mm LPP Theatrical Experience - v1.0
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litemakr said:

alexp120 said:

To enhance this rare LLP theatre experience, I’ve uploaded on the ‘spleen a folder containing audio files of sound mixes of the film that have been edited to play in sync with this release.

Rather than duplicate the unintentional splicing of the release print’s optical soundtrack caused by damaged missing frames, these edits were made to polish the transition over the skip-frames so that you can better immerse yourself into the movie.

The audio options are as follows:
5.1 channel, DTS-HDMA mix from the official 2012 Blu Ray release. [dts file]
2.0 channel, Dolby Surround-encoded, 1981 theatrical mix sourced from the 1989 Japanese, Full-Screen, LaserDisc release (WAV file)*
2.0 channel, Dolby Surround-encoded, 1992 mix for the US, Wide-Screen LaserDisc release (WAV file)*

All you have to do is mux these files to the MKV video and you are good to go.

Bear in mind that each of these audio files includes the length of the introduction that proceeds the film, so, for best results, apply these files to the original video file that came with litemakr’s release

*audio files were made possible by schorman13 from his Indiana Jones LaserDisc Archive. My thanks to schorman13 for capturing the LD’s audio, for sharing, and for maintaining the archive.

Enjoy.

Awesome, thanks! If you have some extra time, the DVD mix should be included. That is a 5.1 version of the original 70mm 6 track mix. Pretty much the same as the wowow mix but less compressed. I prefer it to the blu-ray mix, which is a bit too remixed for me.

Just uploaded the edited 5.1 Dolby Digital track from the 2008 DVD.

Enjoy.

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#986267
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RELEASED: Raiders of the Lost Ark 35mm LPP Theatrical Experience - v1.0
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litemakr said:

Btw, alexp120, the blu-ray mix is not synched up correctly in your release. The audio is ahead most of the time. The LD mixes seem correct.

When I was editing the audio files I didn’t use any delay. All I did was remove audio material and made sure that the length of my audio edits matched the length of your video.

When I played your video with my audio edits muxed-in on my computer via MPC-HC, the audio tracks, including the DTS track, were all in sync perfectly. However, when I played it through my OPPO Blu Ray player’s USB port (from my portable hard drive), I did use my Onkyo receiver’s A/V Sync feature to sync them up. My receiver always has issues with the audio not being in-sync with the video from my Blu Ray/DVD player whether its playing a physical disc or material from a USB port.

So, the solution: you may have to adjust the audio delay in your media player or audio receiver to get it in-sync with the picture.

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#983429
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RELEASED: "Star Trek: The Motion Picture (Special Longer Version)"
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RayRogers said:

Jetrell Fo said:

RayRogers said:

This would be great to put in with the Blu-ray release which I’d also have the Director’s Edition DVDs included. Grabbed the .torrent file from MySpleen.

When I cap my VHS I will pm a mod about the upload but since it is OOP AND not in the release chute anytime soon for Bluray, I don’t see an issue uploading it once I’m ready to.

All I’d need to do then is just buy more Multi-Disc cases. Because I’d also have the OST CD release with it too. So far it’d be a grand total of 4-5 discs? Disc 1 - TMP Blu from Paramount, Disc 2 & 3 - TMP Director’s Edition DVD release, Disc 4 - TMP (Special Longer Version) Widescreen Custom DVD, and Disc 5 - OST CD.
For the VHS-to-DVD of the Special Longer Version, I’m expecting a DVD-DL. But it’d be best if it were the LD, depending on whichever captures in higher quality.

'Better make it 8 discs. You’ve overlooked La-La Land’s 3-CD set of the expanded OST

It’s still in print.

Or you can condense it to 7 discs by removing the single soundtrack CD release. 😉

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#982850
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RELEASED: Raiders of the Lost Ark 35mm LPP Theatrical Experience - v1.0
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To enhance this rare LLP theatre experience, I’ve uploaded on the ‘spleen a folder containing audio files of sound mixes of the film that have been edited to play in sync with this release.

Rather than duplicate the unintentional splicing of the release print’s optical soundtrack caused by damaged missing frames, these edits were made to polish the transition over the skip-frames so that you can better immerse yourself into the movie.

The audio options are as follows:
5.1 channel, DTS-HDMA mix from the official 2012 Blu Ray release. [dts file]
2.0 channel, Dolby Surround-encoded, 1981 theatrical mix sourced from the 1989 Japanese, Full-Screen, LaserDisc release (WAV file)*
2.0 channel, Dolby Surround-encoded, 1992 mix for the US, Wide-Screen LaserDisc release (WAV file)*

All you have to do is mux these files to the MKV video and you are good to go.

Bear in mind that each of these audio files includes the length of the introduction that proceeds the film, so, for best results, apply these files to the original video file that came with litemakr’s release

*audio files were made possible by schorman13 from his Indiana Jones LaserDisc Archive. My thanks to schorman13 for capturing the LD’s audio, for sharing, and for maintaining the archive.

Enjoy.

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#980124
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team negative1 - star wars 1977 - 35mm theatrical version (release details and updates)
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The v1.5 version was uploaded on the spleen but it was later removed by the site’s administrator. That version would have only 3 audio tracks–1 English stereo track, 1 English mono track, and 1 Spanish stero track. Perhaps you might be confusing the audio tracks with the subtitles that include English, Spanish, French, German, Italian & Finnish.

Anyway, an updated version, v1.6, is now available. The audio tracks here are the same as the ones from v1.5. If you wish to listen to the German audio track with this version, you would have to mux the German audio mix from Harmy’s Star Wars Despecialized version to the v1.6.

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#976801
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TITANIC 35mm on Ebay (Italian audio)
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Also, have you consider this posting from 35mm Forum?

Notice in this July 2nd posting…

He is now selling this print at $500, the last time I checked this morning. In the first post, he has an email address, so, you can contact him outside the forum.

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#972600
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TITANIC * 35MM POLY SCOPE PRINT for sale!
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alexp120 said:

Presuming that this project is not dead, I just caught this June 28th posting from “Bruce Lawson” on the 35mm Forum:

Notice in this July 2nd posting…

…that the person has reduced the price to $600 from $750.

This person has posted his email address, so, the person can be contacted outside of the forum.

The seller has reduced the price to a “rock bottom” $500.

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#972091
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Team Negative1 - The Empire Strikes Back 1980 - 35mm Theatrical Version (Release Details and Updates)
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That would be the optical soundtrack from the print, or optical track, containing the Dolby Stereo 2-track mix. The audio has some subtle background pops and scratches but it doesn’t overpower the sound mix. These anomalies are what audiences in the theatre watching the film would have heard at the time of the showings. The optical track audio would be in sync with the video because it came from the print. That audio track should have came with ISO file. On the spleen, that audio is the only audio on the ISO file.

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#971869
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Team Negative1 - The Empire Strikes Back 1980 - 35mm Theatrical Version (Release Details and Updates)
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BobaJett said:
As far as the audio, it looks to be about a half frame off. I wonder if I can import it into Premeire and move the audio track a hair to correct it. Any other ideas on why its off? The file plays off as well as the BD I burned.

The source of the file was from a theatrical print of the film that had some missing frames, mostly in the head end and tail end of each of the 6 reels.

Because…

Colson said:
…the GOUT is the available version of the film with every known frame from it.

….the person who attempted to sync the GOUT’s audio to the file didn’t consider the fact that the theatrical print had missing frames, so, that is why the audio and picture are not in-sync. By the time in the film that the Luke/Vader lightsaber duel at the carbon freeze chamber is finished, the audio and picture would be off by approximately 3 and a quarter seconds.

When you get to the spleen, find a torrent containing a group of GOUT audio files that have been trimmed to play in sync with the ISO file (after it has been extracted). For details, read here.

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