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#904504
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Team Negative1 - Star Wars 1977 - 35mm Eastman Vs Technicolot Theatrical Version (* unfinished project *)
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Robino said:

Lasz said:

Well, the color and contrast look amazing already!

However, I did notice some quite noticeable light streaking on the far right side of the frame almost throughout the entire sample:

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1519/23934842693_0112dfce27_o.jpg
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1716/24453343812_0abd9c0e54_o.jpg
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1677/24453343692_1b4559e81e_o.jpg

Is this present on the film or did it get introduced in the scanning process?

These artifacts are not part of the film print and were introduced by the acquisition device, in this case a DSLR camera.

It is called “CMOS SMEARING” and it happens on very bright areas of a CMOS captured image.

Some cameras are better than others but in this case it’s pretty bad unfortunately.

Just so that the previous scan won’t be a total loss, you can use portions of it as an extra feature in this current project. The shots of the light sabers and the engine burners on the backside of the X-wing/Y-wing fighters are enhanced by the unintentional light smear from the digital camera, giving the shots a sense of surrealism.

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#903395
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team negative1 - star wars 1977 - 35mm theatrical version (Released)
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ScruffyNerfHerder said:

bishabosha said:

At the end of the training remote session with Luke talking to Ben, what are the green ovals in the top right with white scribbled lines for?, in the last sentance or so before you cut to the Death Star board room

I think those are just reel change markers. It’s something we no longer see in digital projection, or on home video, but would definitely be present in 1977. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cue_mark for more info.

Hope that helps. 😃

Or you can watch this scene from TV’s “Columbo” …

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_ol8PbN_94(at 50:01)

…when the detective gets a crash course in reel changes. This is where I learned what that bright colored oval flashes were. 😃

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#902910
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team negative1 - star wars 1977 - 35mm theatrical version (Released)
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team_negative1 said:

Aquabat said:

This is awesome. Any chance of a version above 25 GB? 25 GB is a little small for a 1080p movie; especially one with grain. Criterion releases of grainy movies are regularly 40+ GB.
There are no plans to release any versions bigger than 25 G, due to negligible differences in quality.

Also,most people don’t have double layer bluray burners or media.

Team Negative1

And you have to now consider Ultra HD Blu Ray Discs that are hitting the market (a dual-layer disc can hold up to 66GBs). It’s only a matter of time that recordable UHD Blu Ray Disc will be available. So, presenting your next project in GBs above 25 should be considered.

In the meantime, anyone that downloads a video that has this said amount of data, or more, can just store it on a portable hard drive or even on a flash drive. Those said storage devices can be plugged, via USB port, to a Blu Ray player and it will play the videos. That is how I have done it for the past year and it has worked out well for me.

During this time the person can still enjoy the HD content from the storage device until UHD Blu Ray blank discs become available and he can then burn the content to that disc.

So, we encourage you, team negative1, to present your next project in the best quality possible without compromise. If it is 80GB, so be it. We can handle it.

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#883836
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Info: Alien DC Project ... an UPDATE. (Released)
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Jetrell Fo said:
Would MP4 be more desirable than DVD?

Regarding the betacam footage: If this will influence your decision, since, I presume, the picture/audio quality on analogue betacam is less then even DVD quality, then MP4 would be acceptable to me. There is no sense in using up memory for material that is not DVD quality.

I would download the video on a USB external hard drive and play it on my LG DVD/Blu Ray player. That is simple for me-quick and convenient.

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#794873
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Alien/Aliens Color Regrade (a WIP)
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I’ve contributed a post in the 4.1 sound thread of this forum that I would like you and all Alien fans to read.

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Dolby-Digital-41-Surround-Alien-Anthology/post/794872/#TopicPost794872

It’s in regards to a sound mix in one specific scene in the film that appears only in the 2-channel Dolby Surround version.  I’ll have links to playable audio WAV files to help explain this.
Thanks,
Alex

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#794872
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Info: Alien Anthology - Dolby Digital 4.1 Surround
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I would like to mention something that I’ve noticed in a scene from the movie where the sound mix for that scene is different in the various versions of the film.  This scene occurs around 40 minutes into the film, where the Nostromo crew discovers that the alien blood acts like acid and burns through several desks downward in their cargo ship. 

I feel that the best way to explain this example is to use several links to playable audio WAV files to help illustrate my point.

Now, we all know that Alien’s music track contains not only portions of original music for the film, but also music from another film, Freud (1962), both of which were done by Jerry Goldsmith.

In this link is the music cue from Freud that was used in said scene.

http://www.4shared.com/music/3XQsrPT8ba/Freud_Music_Cue.html

Here is a portion of the original music from Alien that was intended to be used in said scene.

http://www.4shared.com/music/i7EyDgVpce/Alien_1979__Original_Music_Cue.html

At the point in that scene where the crew has just entered into another deck, trying to find where acid-like blood is coming from, we hear both the Freud music cue and the Alien music cue mixed together.

In this audio file is a recreation of how the Freud and Alien music cues are merged together in the finished film. 

http://www.4shared.com/music/86oqj_SAba/Alien_1979__Final_Film_Music_M.html

6 seconds into this file, the Alien cue begins over the Freud music cue.

Finally, this file contains both music cues with sound and dialogue as it is heard in the final 2-channel Dolby Surround sound mix from the film.  In this audio demo, the scene begins with Dallas saying, “Next deck!” over the image of the melted toe of a space boot and ends when Ripley says, “its stopping!” The sound level in the Alien music cue is lower than the level in the Freud Music cue, so, you would have to listen carefully to the former.  This sound is from Fox Video’s 3-disc 1992 LaserDisc release.

http://www.4shared.com/music/-lEtC2Dpce/Alien_1979__Final_Film_Sound_M.html

My theory is when the sound mixers where re-doing the reel of this scene they forgot to remove the magnetic stem reels containing the Alien music from the reader. I guess since both pieces of music are modernist, this mistake just went over the director and the other sound mixers that were dubbing the movie.

I’ve studied the sound mix of that scene in the 4.0 surround mix of the film on the 2003 DVD release.  In the front left and right channels, the Alien music cue is greatly minimized because you would have to strain to hear it over the Freud music and the other sound elements.

http://www.4shared.com/music/4RvsBdlFce/Alien__1979__4_Channel_Front_L.html

 
However, in the rear left and right channels, the Alien music is present, not the Freud music, over the ambient ship rumble sounds.

http://www.4shared.com/music/yTvOBGaVba/Alien__1979__4_Channel_Rear_LR.html


The actual sound in the rear channels was lower than the front channels so I had to increase the rear channel sound levels drastically for this file to demonstrate.


Perhaps, after all these years, the filmmakers realized that the Alien music cue in that scene remained and they did their best to remove it or, at least, minimize it when preparing for the DVD.  I suppose they could have re-dubbed that scene, making sure not to add the Alien music cue into that scene, but why didn’t they?

I wonder if this leakage of the Alien music in that scene occurred in the rare 70mm, 6-track mix?  It would be interesting if we can find that out, so that we can get some further insight on what procedures went on in preparing the sound mixes for the various versions of the film at the time of its theatrical release.  It would be great if someone who has possession of an audio rip of that 70mm, 6-track LaserDisc version could post an audio of that scene so that we call all check it out.