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#1490022
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FrederikOlsen said:

Ava G. said:

Agreed, it would be fun to see a movie edit of the series. I’d love an extra movie to watch to bridge the trilogies.

I won’t write a full review, because I’m tired. But I will say that the finale was awesome, and made me emotional.

The end of that duel. OMG. Vader was the pitiable and broken horror villain Lucas always wanted him to be viewed as.

Obi-Wan goes through so much character development and finally transforms into the wise and hopeful Alec Guinness version.

I’ll admit, watching Obi-Wan’s eyes get teary when he saw Anakin’s broken face got to me. At its best, that scene included, Obi-Wan Kenobi has recontextualised the PT for me to a point where I’m cool with it. I don’t consider them very good films, but just months ago, I was basically in the “deny they exist” camp.

I’m not 100% into Leia and Obi-Wan having this close a relationship when her hologram in Star Wars makes no reference to that, but I can live with it. It’s no worse than the passionate kiss between siblings where one party has “always known”, Yoda supposedly training Obi-Wan, or Leia remembering her real mother. Some backpedaling is to be expected with Star Wars, and it’s been that way since 1999, really.

I would also have wished the cinematography would’ve been brighter. Dark scenes are fine, but this was the climax! But I’m noting this is a trend with shows that are shot and processed for HDR in general. Hopefully it’ll pass eventually.

Yes, people seem to want the blackest blacks on their OLED TV’s. Nonsense really. Just be natural. I did my first watch on my phone and I could see everything. Probably watching it next on my HDTV. Hope it isn’t too dark.

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MalaStrana#2 said:

Vader, episode 3: « I am what you made me. »

Vader, episode 6: « You didn’t fail Anakin. I killed Anakin. »

This fucking show isn’t even internally consistent. It’s incredible how badly written this shit is…

(Just waiting for basic fans to explain « he meant what he is in a physical state not his psychological state. It fits perfectly. It bridges PT to OT perfectly » 😂)

In episode 3 Vader is referring to his suit. In episode 6 he is referring to his fall. Two totally different topics.

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NeverarGreat said:

Omni said:

Guess now we know why Leia’s lightsaber resembles Obi-Wan’s and she named her son Ben 😃

Hey that’s a good connection!

RL, I was reminded of the GOT scene on Tatooine, it felt like I was listening to a Radio Drama because there was literally nothing visible on screen.

Also, another thing that baffled me was why Obi-wan thought his plan to divert Vader’s attention would work, and also why it did.

Like, Obi-wan knew that Vader had a personal shuttle with which to pursue him in alone, and also had the Grand Inquisitor with which to continue pursuit of the refugees. Yet Vader just diverts the entire Star Destroyer to follow Obi-wan and then just leaves it behind and says that he will now follow Obi-wan alone in his ship. Baffling.

Not really baffling. We see Vader do the exact same thing in TESB. He orders his whole fleet to pursue the Falcon into the asteroid field. And at that moment it is faster to have the Star Destroyer go after Kenobi rather than get in a shuttle or Tie fighter. Kenobi knows what motivated Anakin and Vader is even more obsessive. Until corrected by the Emperor.

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Episode VI was truly epic. Full of epic moments. A bit light with Leia, but she had plenty of time to shine earlier. Great duel, great setup for ANH. All the pieces are in place. Great to see two old faces again (Ian’s makeup was so much better this time). Now to binge it and see how it is all together. I think the other episodes will be even better in light of how the series ends.

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Dat_SW_Guy said:

SomethingStarWarsRelated said:

This de-aged Anakin showed up on my feed today:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HL-N2ywWhOw

It’s certainly going in the right direction.

I mean it looks janky and smooths out his face too much. If this was what Lucasfilm did, then there would be outrage for the overuse of CGI.

I’d rather have Hayden himself just do it, as it doesn’t really matter since he still looks youngish.

Yeah, I’d rather have the original person and at least make some attempt to make them look younger (with makeup and other on set techniques) than make it look fake. Though they did do a damn good job with Luke in BOBF.

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I still get a chuckle every time someone says the production quality is low, or the FX are bad, or they didn’t spend enough money, or it looks 90’s TV. Boy, some of you have really retconned the past in your heads to believe that. This series looks like the movies. TNG and B5 are 90’s TV and they looked nothing like this… ever. They look like the Star Wars Holiday Special compared to Kenobi. I think there are some creative choices that not everyone likes and they are blaming the wrong thing. The sets are fantastic (even the virtual sets) and the quality is excellent.

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Anchorhead said:

yotsuya said:

Yeah, not exactly the same story at all. In ANH they rescue Leia because they happen to be there, and they botch it and Leia has to get them out of the mess. I really don’t see a lot of parallels other than Leia got rescued from an imperial facility.

That’s worth noting before we get too far in the weeds on finding comparisons and similarities that are completely unintentional. As Yotsuya points out, they weren’t going to rescue her at all. In fact, they weren’t even going to the Death Star. All of that was happenstance. Just as an unrelated, remote system, farm boy even being part of the story was happenstance (before Lucas had writer’s block a few years later).

That said, there are plenty of things to criticize about this series and I’ve done so myself. However, I don’t see any of that Ring or Rhyming bullshit that some factions swear exists. If anything, this series telling a new story is one of it’s strengths.

As to its conflicting with the 1977 film, I don’t care. As an original fan from 1977, I’ve never let anything conflict with that film. I either ignore attempted connectivity or skip films entirely. Star Wars is a movie from 1977. Obi Wan Kenobi is a TV show from 2022. I have no problem whatsoever separating the two. If anything, I’d struggle to connect the two.

Very well put.

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Vladius said:

MalaStrana#2 said:

idir_hh said:

I thought this was an interesting take:

every episode mirrors an Episode of the Skywalker saga (I-VI)
https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsKenobi/comments/vacere/fan_theory_every_episode_mirrors_an_episode_of/

It’s been quite obvious so far; some fans are getting nuts about these “insane parallels” but I just find it to be poor storytelling.

Yeah I noticed it when episode 4 repeated all the same plot conventions and characters as actual episode 4. Instead of being impressed, I was disgusted that they thought that justified what they were doing.

Yeah, not exactly the same story at all. In ANH they rescue Leia because they happen to be there, and they botch it and Leia has to get them out of the mess. I really don’t see a lot of parallels other than Leia got rescued from an imperial facility.

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act on instinct said:

DrDre said:

The whole scene makes very little sense. It would be much more logical for Reva to present herself as a friendly face, and a representative of the Empire put in charge of bringing Leia to the safety of her parents, in hopes of getting at least some information. All Leia knows is, that she was taken by some pirates, and then apparently rescued by a former Jedi, who themselves are wanted criminals. There’s no subtlety in Reva’s character. She’s just a one note villain, who’s inept at interrogating a little kid, fails to recognize her innate Force ability (which is her job), and wants to torture her for information, she likely doesn’t have. Presenting a friendly face would make the Reva character more interesting, and competent, being able to do more than just yell and scowl.

Glad to see this, that moment also stuck out to me as really Disney-fied like they’re playing to the kids out there who see themselves in little Leia. That’s fun in an interactive theme park setting and ultimately Star Wars is for the kids more than the adults, but for a serious scene the more intense the interrogation got the sillier it was. If Reva handled the situation like you suggested (which is how real interrogations typically go) the whole scene would improve, Reva would have more dimension as a calculated villain instead of her usual one note, and Leia by rejecting her manipulation would reinforce her inner wisdom and even call back her skepticism of Kenobi in episode 2. I get it, the inquisitors are ruthless and it’s sort of been established that force mind reading is Reva’s thing, but in the wrong scene with the wrong character it can (and in my opinion did) go over the top and feel even cheesier than all the last minute saves.

Reva better break out that backstory soon and it better be worth it, right now the more she tries to act scary the less intimidating she gets, the character is becoming a cartoon.

For Reva to take a calm approach to interrogation would be against what they have established for her character. She seems stuck in the bad cop mode (not surprising for an angry inquisitor who has already been established as reckless). It might have made the interrogation more useful.

And the symbol she saw and pulled off the wall was a Jedi symbol, not a rebellion symbol. She’s grilling Leia to see if she has anything on this. The chance of Leia having any useful information (if you look at it logically from Reva’s perspective) is very low. I’m certain that with his close association with the Jedi, Bail Organa is being watched closely. But there is a chance. We already know that Leia doesn’t know anything more than what we have seen. Bail is in on the formation of the Rebellion and isn’t involved with getting the Jedi to safety.

Bail doesn’t move into action until the Death Star changes the game. He doesn’t risk Kenobi again. And likely Leia’s message to Kenobi is very coded in case it falls into the wrong hands. If you watch ANH, Leia knows who Ben Kenobi is. She never questions Luke. So she knew that name. And C-3PO makes a number of false statements. He tells Luke he doesn’t know who Leia is even though one of the first things he says in the film is about Leia. So he is protecting their identities constantly until he knows that Luke is truly an ally. He wasn’t privy to Leia’s instructions to R2, and is obviously confused, but doesn’t reveal anything that we know he knows. And with Rebels, Rogue One and the opening of ANH, we know he knows a lot.

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Omni said:

jedi_bendu said:

Omni said:

the first few minutes of this episode were the low point of the series IMO.

I’m surprised you say that as the opening bacta tank scene was my favourite scene in the episode.

Personally I thought it was a weak way to have them connect, but I’m mostly talking about the new gang we meet. Severely underdeveloped characters, that one guy at first hesitates to help only to have an inexplicable change of heart… then there’s Wade who dies at the end and… we’re supposed to feel for him, I guess? Like, the issue isn’t that they’re there, it’s that we’re supposed to care. They’re obviously representing the fight against oppression and the cost of the mission to the point that it shouldn’t matter who they are, but not even the symbolic nature of the role helps that brief storyline to succeed, like it does for me in Rogue One, and it really drags the whole thing. Doesn’t help that the rest of the episode was mostly boring…

I didn’t think we were supposed to care about Wade at all. He’s like Porkins or the other pilots in the original Death Star battle. Sure we care that they die, but there is no connection. The only death there that there was a connection or that were were supposed to care about was Biggs. And even then, only because Luke so obviously did.

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Ice said:

Anchorhead said:

Tiny nit-pick; The tracking device has been done. Come up with another way.

I think this is their way to tie into the OT a little; maybe that’s why Leia is so certain that “they let us go” in ANH; she’s seen it happen before.

As we see frequently in this series, Leia knows things. In ANH, the typical torture does not get her to talk. Even Tarkin’s threats don’t get her to spill the beans on the Rebellion. Vader may or may not sense she is strong with the force, but I’ve observed that a lot of what we see in the OT indicates abilities that could be force related. She seems to be able to pick up things from others. The youthful spouting of what she sees may have been tempered by her political training so she may still see a lot of those things, but doesn’t say it like she did when she was 10.

I think the writing of this series so far fits in with the OT very well and really helps bridge a few of the glitches that the PT left us with. Like Leia’s memory of her mother, which could very well be from Bail or Obi-wan.

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I am still baffled that anyone thinks this show is poorly done. It is a hit with fans in general and the only reason it will never be as popular as The Mandalorian is that it doesn’t have Baby Yoda (possibly the single most popular character in all of Star Wars). But the production quality of all of them are top notch. I can’t see any issue with the set, costumes, acting, anything.

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Vladius said:

yotsuya said:

Vladius said:

I’m legit angry. I was willing to go along with the show for 2 episodes and then most of this one, but it’s enough. It’s only marginally better than Book of Boba Fett which is not saying very much.
I don’t know why - I didn’t have high expectations. Maybe it’s because there’s enough stuff that I do like that was unexpectedly good. Any time Obi Wan is actually on screen ranges from decent to great.
But like everyone here is saying, everything looks cheap. Not cheap like the original Star Wars where they’re doing the most with a lower budget, but where they’re doing the least with a higher budget. All the inquisitors look goofy, and not in a good way. The sets are substandard. The directing is straight up bad. I feel bad saying that because Deborah Chow sounded really promising and respectful of the source material, but there’s no other way you would get this kind of sloppy chase sequences and setpieces and parts that drag on for too long.
Other than the editing which is also abysmal. I want to scream at the people making the show to STOP CUTTING AWAY FROM OBI WAN. JUST STOP IT. I don’t want or need to see Leia or Reva or whoever moving through a tunnel, or doing parkour, or walking, or talking, or anything at all. Why, WHY, when you have a show about Obi Wan and Vader meeting again for the first time, and you went to all the effort to bring in Ewan and Hayden, do you think it’s necessary to devote around half (more?) of the screen time to NOTHING? To characters that aren’t even supposed to be there, or exist!
The music is awful. Just so generic it would be better if it weren’t there at all. It’s sad because that’s one of the things Star Wars is known for and they literally had John Williams make an Obi Wan theme for it, and they somehow couldn’t bring themselves to make use of any of the large library of existing music to good effect.

I want to believe that this can be cut down into a good movie. There are certainly enough good things in it, it’s just that they’re surrounded by inquisitors (which I have never liked,) repetitive dialogue, poor chase scenes, and an overall lack of focus.

“Like you trained his father?” Such an awesome scene. Vader being scary, having a castle, and terrorizing the innocent. Great. Obi Wan’s flashbacks and trying to connect with Qui Gon, great. Nar Shadda-esque planet, pretty good. Clone Vietnam vet, cool. Some of the dialogue between Obi Wan and Leia, decent. Obi Wan taking out a bunch of stormtroopers, badass. There are so many nuggets of good things here that have to be dug out, but they shouldn’t have to be.

How does it look cheap? I can’t see that these are obviously sets. The designs are very Star Wars. They aren’t wobbling. So how are they cheap. Is it because they aren’t all crowded with stuff? Not every place in the universe is crowded. I just really don’t get the hate being heaped on this series.

And the pacing is pretty normal series pacing. So I don’t know why you are expecting movie pacing in an extended series. If they wanted movie pacing they would have made a movie. Making a 6 part series gives more time to explore more while telling the same story. It seems some of us like that and some don’t.

I can’t say the music is outstanding, but it also does not interfere. Good incidental music sits in the background and is only noticeable when called for.

No I mean the lighting, the materials used in the costumes and buildings, and the effects. Maybe also the caliber of actors for all the non-Obi Wan, non-Owen, non-Vader characters.

I’m not talking about pacing, I’m talking about what they choose to show or not show, and the way they cut it together. You can have a 6 part series and still have it be focused and interesting. In fact I think that would actually be easier than what they’re doing. (Every show now is trying to be a “prestige” show where there’s many vying factions and individuals with their own agendas, which is where I think the inquisitors come in.) For what it’s worth they did want to make a movie, they only turned it into a show after Solo underperformed and they canceled further spinoff movies.

I’m not seeing anything low production about any of it. Definitely not the sets, lighting, effects, or acting.

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MalaStrana#2 said:

yotsuya said:
the pacing is pretty normal series pacing. So I don’t know why you are expecting movie pacing in an extended series. If they wanted movie pacing they would have made a movie. Making a 6 part series gives more time to explore more while telling the same story. It seems some of us like that and some don’t.

I can’t say the music is outstanding, but it also does not interfere. Good incidental music sits in the background and is only noticeable when called for.

I can totally get why one would enjoy a lot this show, but at some point I cannot accept that the obvious flaws are being excused as “it’s a tv show”, “good incidental music”, etc. TCW has awesome soundtracks, so being a tv show is not an excuse. It’s fracking Star Wars, and we should accept “tv level production” for a Vader v Ben rematch… It’s madness.

Yeah, to me it doesn’t feel like a TV series in production. Pacing maybe, but not production.

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Vladius said:

I’m legit angry. I was willing to go along with the show for 2 episodes and then most of this one, but it’s enough. It’s only marginally better than Book of Boba Fett which is not saying very much.
I don’t know why - I didn’t have high expectations. Maybe it’s because there’s enough stuff that I do like that was unexpectedly good. Any time Obi Wan is actually on screen ranges from decent to great.
But like everyone here is saying, everything looks cheap. Not cheap like the original Star Wars where they’re doing the most with a lower budget, but where they’re doing the least with a higher budget. All the inquisitors look goofy, and not in a good way. The sets are substandard. The directing is straight up bad. I feel bad saying that because Deborah Chow sounded really promising and respectful of the source material, but there’s no other way you would get this kind of sloppy chase sequences and setpieces and parts that drag on for too long.
Other than the editing which is also abysmal. I want to scream at the people making the show to STOP CUTTING AWAY FROM OBI WAN. JUST STOP IT. I don’t want or need to see Leia or Reva or whoever moving through a tunnel, or doing parkour, or walking, or talking, or anything at all. Why, WHY, when you have a show about Obi Wan and Vader meeting again for the first time, and you went to all the effort to bring in Ewan and Hayden, do you think it’s necessary to devote around half (more?) of the screen time to NOTHING? To characters that aren’t even supposed to be there, or exist!
The music is awful. Just so generic it would be better if it weren’t there at all. It’s sad because that’s one of the things Star Wars is known for and they literally had John Williams make an Obi Wan theme for it, and they somehow couldn’t bring themselves to make use of any of the large library of existing music to good effect.

I want to believe that this can be cut down into a good movie. There are certainly enough good things in it, it’s just that they’re surrounded by inquisitors (which I have never liked,) repetitive dialogue, poor chase scenes, and an overall lack of focus.

“Like you trained his father?” Such an awesome scene. Vader being scary, having a castle, and terrorizing the innocent. Great. Obi Wan’s flashbacks and trying to connect with Qui Gon, great. Nar Shadda-esque planet, pretty good. Clone Vietnam vet, cool. Some of the dialogue between Obi Wan and Leia, decent. Obi Wan taking out a bunch of stormtroopers, badass. There are so many nuggets of good things here that have to be dug out, but they shouldn’t have to be.

How does it look cheap? I can’t see that these are obviously sets. The designs are very Star Wars. They aren’t wobbling. So how are they cheap. Is it because they aren’t all crowded with stuff? Not every place in the universe is crowded. I just really don’t get the hate being heaped on this series.

And the pacing is pretty normal series pacing. So I don’t know why you are expecting movie pacing in an extended series. If they wanted movie pacing they would have made a movie. Making a 6 part series gives more time to explore more while telling the same story. It seems some of us like that and some don’t.

I can’t say the music is outstanding, but it also does not interfere. Good incidental music sits in the background and is only noticeable when called for.

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Dunedain said:

Well, I’ve seen the first 3 episodes now. I was naturally concerned how this series would be handled with Disney involved, but they allowed an overall good job to be done with the Mandalorian in the first two seasons, so I was anticipating it might be good, also. So far, I think it’s going pretty well. Ewan is, as usual, great as Obi-Wan, and shows why Lucas chose him in the first place. He brings real weight and depth to the entire series. You can feel how much pain he’s had go through thinking and dreaming about the events on Naboo and the Clone War, the mistakes, the friends he’s lost in battle, and what happened to Anakin, most of all. That would have to be very hard. The whole Inquisitor thing is sort of ok, but this Reva is really annoying. While she’s endlessly saying she seeks to prove how worthy she is, etc., at the first chance she murders her superior, proving the Grand Inquisitor right about her; a lowly backstabber, no loyalty, no discipline and totally untrustworthy, just in a constant desperate bid for attention.

The confrontation with Darth Vader is quite a moment, Obi-Wan is rather shocked to see what has become of Anakin. And lets just say that Anakin remembers well his devastating defeat at the hands of his Master… And certainly Obi-Wan is feeling rusty after having laid low for years and having zero time for force and lightsaber use and practice. He’s already got his hand-to-hand combat and blaster techniques and marksmanship working well, and I get the feeling when he shakes the rust off fully, look out bad guys… =)

Sometimes I think some of my fellow members are unaware of how cutthroat the dark side is. They burn with anger and they are more than willing to kill each other to get ahead and Vader and Palpatine (and all the Sith before them) encourage it. They want only the strongest and the competition and murder keeps any of them from becoming strong enough to be a danger. So all these questions about why Reva is angry and why she shows no loyalty to the other inquisitors and goes behind their back is perfect writing, acting, and directing for Sith characters. It is brilliantly done. And the visual look is from Rebels so that was already established and adapted to live action. So none of these complaints are really about this show, they are about what has been established in the Star Wars universe that this show is using.

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I would not stoop to slinging the accusation of racism at anyone without adequate proof. But Moses Ingram has received a lot of racist abuse and I side with Ewan McGregor and Anson Mount that both the Star Wars and Star Trek fandoms should not tolerate any racism what-so-ever. All I have seen on this thread are complaints of her acting. In any part some might find the acting good and some bad. That is not racism, that is preference. Acting involves decisions on the part of the writers, actors, and directors that some might not care for.

But in other corners fans are not making that complaint but being outright racist. Ewan heard some of them and it broke his heart and he does not consider anyone making such racist based comments to be any sort of Star Wars fan. I don’t either. And it’s bad enough Anson Mount spoke for the Star Trek community in her support.

And again, I have seen nothing in the above comments to suggest racism from any member here. I would be very disappointed if that was the case.

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ken-obi said:

yotsuya said:

It is shame that this series, so anticipated for years, has so low production values so far.

I don’t get how this has a low production value. That just baffles me. I’ve watched the first episode 3 times and as good if not better than any episode of The Mandelorian. I get it if you don’t like it or don’t like some of their choices, but blasting the production quality of something this well made just blows my mind.

I hardly blasted the production quality. I said it was a shame that the production values for this is so low for the episodes we have seen this far.

Me saying that blew your mind? Really?
 

Okay, then I’ll try and expand upon what I said. To me it looks cheap in places, certain scenes in the desert, the rooftop fight, Revan spinning and twirling her way through it, and the fake Jedi’s “office”. I found them to look cheap and uninteresting. Costuming, editing, cinematography and camera placement also looked off. That could The Void, or other factors, but they were jarring to me and appeared cheaply done too.

To me The Mandalorian looks superior to this from a production standpoint. This series so far is on a par with BOBF, and not the quality episodes featuring The Mandalorian. That new Andor teaser looked to have superior production values than this (though only a teaser, obviously).

So far Kenobi has given me the feel of a modern “sy-fy” sci-fi show shot on a budget and tight schedule out in Canada. Not a well-funded limited series by Disney+ with the technical know-how and experience of Lucasfilm, who have re-tooled the story (as both a film and TV series) and spent some serious time on this show. To me this is a flagship series, or should be. Bridging the Prequel and Original eras, and possibly the fans of those trilogies, with a much anticipated story of one many fans’ more endearing characters, played by an actor that even the most ardent Prequel critic would acknowledge did a solid job with the work given him in the Prequel films.

The Kenobi story is compelling, the execution and feel of the show so far is not. The acting is strong, Inquisitors apart, as originally posted this is surprising given the quality of performances on their other projects.

Again this just for the two episodes we have seen so far. I’ll gladly eat humble pie if the remaining episodes have better production values to them.

If there is a “two-hander” episode with just Ewan and Hayden talking and building up to future confrontation then the production values won’t matter as much. The story, the acting, the build-up is what really matters here in this series. Yet so far, when it is opened up to set the scene, or showcase the backdrops, or attempting to show off (like Revan on the rooftops) then that is where it is suffering production-wise.

But that’s all just my opinion. I’m glad you are enjoying it, and others too. I hope that goes for the future episodes of this as well.

Again, I don’t get it. So a big empty room is somehow not realistic? I just walked through a functioning location today that looked very similar (except it was white and brightly lit). I think you just don’t like their choice and instead of just saying you don’t like what they did, you are insulting their abilities. I don’t think that is fair. I definitely don’t agree. I had no problem with any of the things you point out and I definitely don’t think they point to any flaws in the production. Sets do not have to be crowded to be realistic. I definitely don’t get the “syfy out of canada” feel like you describe. I get more of the big hollywood feel with a big budget.

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Dirge said:

  • Leia’s chase scenes are ridiculous (she toddles around at three miles per hour and this somehow leads to extended chase scenes with grown adults). And speaking of Leia, while it’s fine that she is ultra-perceptive (like when she senses her cousin is afraid of his father and such), the long spiels she goes on are far too mature for what is still a very small child.

Haven’t been around 10-year-olds lately, have you?

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ken-obi said: Lucasfilm have realised they won’t often hit those storytelling and “magic in a bottle” highs of the Original Trilogy, and instead will give more us more new stories done in a more uninspiring and “formula scifi tv” series, with the occasional sprinkling of old Star Wars magic here and there.

I agree that not every project can hit the magic and achieve epic popularity. Disney had known this for a very long time. It isn’t a new thing for them.

It is shame that this series, so anticipated for years, has so low production values so far.

I don’t get how this has a low production value. That just baffles me. I’ve watched the first episode 3 times and as good if not better than any episode of The Mandelorian. I get it if you don’t like it or don’t like some of their choices, but blasting the production quality of something this well made just blows my mind.

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The Kenobi <s>Movie</s> Show (Spoilers)
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I decided to watch the two episodes again in light of the few negative comments in this thread. I have to say I disagree with all of them. Two excellently made episodes, fantastic acting, fantastic casting, fantastic writing, fantastic sets and costumes. I really don’t understand the negative comments. This feels like the world between Eps III and IV. More than Solo or Rebels. I don’t think this series will have the massive impact of The Mandalorian, but only because there is no Baby Yoda. This series really ties in and explores the characters of the surrounding movies (in just the first two episodes!) and promises to be quite a ride. Can’t wait to see Hayden as Vader. Just what we have seen so far the suit is so much better than Ep III.