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#1350421
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STAR WARS PREQUEL TRILOGY AWFUL DNR - ARE THERE BETTER VERSIONS AVAILABLE?
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For my personal edits, I am planning on using Schorman’s HDTV for AOTC and ROTS. I do plan on restoring the wipe when Threepio and Obi-wan are leaving Mustufar off the blu-ray to produce what is basically the theatrical version. But those seem to have more life and better colors than later releases. I’m enamored with CG Yoda, so my go to version of TPM has to include that I have made my own edit which is the theatrical cut using the original DTS audio tracks, but using the BR with CG Yoda. I found an HD cut of the theatrical podrace to get the first shots of that sequence and I creatively edited one of the clips in the extended air-speeder sequence on Coruscant to cover the missing shot so it is all HD. A little noise and grain hid the worst of the DNR, but that one shot of Qui-gon can’t be so easily fixed. It depends on which cut you are after. Three shots from the original theatrical version of TMP only exist in SD so with upscaling I haven’t been able to get them to look even watchable at higher than 720p. But if you just want to put something on, HDTV version is proabably the best looking. Though ZigZig’s recent release of his LD preservation rivals it in some ways for color.

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#1350418
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Luke's X-wing left at Bespin? How did he get it back?
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It is the same model, same cockpit set, and same full sized prop. We can assume that in the year between TESB and ROTJ that someone went back to Bespin to get it. The new official canon is that Lando and Luke went back after they found out Han was delivered to Jabba. Luke looked for his saber, but retrieved his X-wing.

Alternatively it would be pretty easy to have a different X-wing painted to match the original.

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#1349382
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StarWarsLegacy.com - The Official Thread
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I have to say he does good work, but the man is ignorant as to why Lucas edited out some of these shots. He keeps saying there is no reason and even after he cleans them up, I can see the reason and it isn’t what he thinks it is. For instance, the Wolfman was replaced not becasue of the quality of the shot, but because of the mask itself that Lucas hated. And the composite shot outside Yavin base just looks horrible because the matte painting looks so fake when you get to higher resolutions. We all still love the original, but Mike doesn’t seem to understand what drove Lucas to make the changes he made. It was not the quality of the shots, it was the composition and the flaws in production that had been under his skin.

Nice to hear from him after so long, but kind of depressing that nothing is going to come of this.

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#1347670
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Star Wars I - The Phantom Menace - ZigZig's Laserdisc Preservation
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CourtlyHades296 said:

I’m more interested in a scan of JSC than Faces.

There is already an excellent version of JSC. I have it and it is nearly as good as this version of TPM. It is also a much older LD release by about 15 years. The DSC and Faces release hasn’t seen a lot of love because it is mostly a repeat of what go released in 2006. But I think that has some flaws that a high quality LD preservation might fix.

althor1138 has done great work and has done so many versions except the DC, Faces, and TPM.

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Star-Wars-Laserdisc-Preservations-See-1st-Post-for-Updates/id/15283

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#1347253
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Star Wars I - The Phantom Menace - ZigZig's Laserdisc Preservation
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Yes, I have those two SD copies (TB and ORF) and I’m going to see if this added to those can improve it. In particular the three shots that don’t exist in HD (until we hopefully get a film scan). This version is glorious is so many ways.

And I hope that you might be tempted to do the one LD version that does not exist in this quality - the Definitive Collection/Faces. True we have the GOUT discs, but I have some concerns that some of the GOUT issues might be reduced with a proprer pulldown reversal and such an LD preservation might offer some improvements.

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#1345917
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Star Wars Prequels 35mm 4K Filmized Editions by Emanswfan
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NeverarGreat said:

It looks like all three of them are just the Blu-rays run through a sharpening/upscaling process. ROTS really suffers from sharpening artifacts while AOTC looks better for the process.

I’d say that they went back a generation. Not the actual BR version, but the master the used to make it. AOTC actually looks like it has more detail. I’m guessing whatever they did to “clean up” the image for the blu-ray is gone and they have “cleaned up” the video for 4k.

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#1343994
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ESB 1997 HD (a more accurate) Reconstruction
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Stotchy said:

I am really curious as to how you got the 97DTS track to sync.

Is this reconstruction frame accurate so the audio just worked? Or did you have to make changes to the soundtrack to fit the video?

Since we have frame accurate versions of the 97se and the DTS tracks are by film reel, it is rather simple to align them and sync the video to it.

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#1340645
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I'll never understand the attitude of people who oppose the release of the unaltered original trilogy.
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Yup, Blade Runner is a shining example of how the OT (and even PT) should be treated. Heck, even deleted scenes. Everything was cleaned up and polished and presented in a format that you can truly enjoy each of the 5 version of the film or the deleted scenes. Everything in 1080p, everything in a state that fan editors salivate over. That is what I want from an OT release. If you can do branching that would be awesome, but there are so many changes from the OT to the SE that isn’t very practical. So, like in 2006, a bonus disk with the OT. each version. There are 4 version of ANH and 2 of TESB and then the various soundtracks. And the SE PT done the same way with the different versions and soundtracks. And then a disc for the deleted scenes. A real set of deleted and alternate scenes… in color, cleaned and timed properly. But you’d have to have someone at Disney and Lucasfilm who cares enough to do this. I’d partner with Criterion for the release because they would love a project like this and wouldn’t be put off by the low profit margin that Disney cares about (and face it, we know they do).

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#1339267
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Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga 4k UHD -- 27 DISC Boxed Set -- 3/31/2020
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Han Solo IRL said:

MikeMatt101 said:

Broom Kid said:

Looking at the cap from above, thought I’d put together a comparison of “Here to Rescue Yous”

http://www.framecompare.com/image-compare/screenshotcomparison/7DKY7NNX

I think I got those all labeled correctly.

May I ask, is the last of these screenshots the 2019 Blu Ray or the 2019 4K?

It’s the 4K. It’s got a 3840x1610 pixel count.

yotsuya said:

It sounds like we need to rip the new BR’s and 4k discs and apply a lut to make the 4k version match the colors of the BR. From what I’ve seen the 4k versions have crap colors unless you discover what tinkering you need. Virtually all the 4k screen caps I’ve seen look like crap. Utter crap. So washed out and unlike any film I’ve ever seen in a theater. Natalie Kalmus would be appalled.

The 4K discs are orders of magnitude better than the new 1080p discs for colour and contrast on my GZ1000. Tone mapped screencaps on PC monitors don’t give a good or accurate representation of the 4K versions at all.

From what has been shared, I can’t see it. If you can’t even capture an accurate image of it, what good is it? It has the resolution but if this community is going to make use of that, the colors you claim to be seeing need to transfer over or they are useless. So if we can’t transfer them any other way, we copy the BR colors to the 4k image. Should be easy. I don’t care for 4k because of all the problems the format seems to be having. We can’t burn 4k disc, we can’t transfer HDR colors, can’t even get the right colors in screen caps.

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#1338541
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Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga 4k UHD -- 27 DISC Boxed Set -- 3/31/2020
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It sounds like we need to rip the new BR’s and 4k discs and apply a lut to make the 4k version match the colors of the BR. From what I’ve seen the 4k versions have crap colors unless you discover what tinkering you need. Virtually all the 4k screen caps I’ve seen look like crap. Utter crap. So washed out and unlike any film I’ve ever seen in a theater. Natalie Kalmus would be appalled.

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#1337122
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Star Wars Prequels 35mm 4K Filmized Editions by Emanswfan
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Having just watched TESB and then seeing that side by side, the CGI Yoda looks more like the original puppet than that abhorrent TPM puppet. I was watching and the puppet was alwasy looking at the ceiling while the CG actually meets the eyeline. And it has no expressions and looks drugged in the final scene. There is a reason we call it creepy and a reason why creepy is bad. The CG Yoda matches the rest of the PT. The only area where the puppet looks better is the hair. They f***ed that up in the CG, but the rest was well done. I fail to see why anyone who prefer that creepy version. It baffles me. Looks nothing like the TESB Yoda puppet. It was such a crap job that Frank Oz’s peformance is better joined to the CG.

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#1337044
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Help: looking for... 1997 SE - both the flunk and reivax versions
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ShiftyEyes said:

Interesting. I forgot about these versions. I even recently made a custom Blu-ray using the TB version. Turns out I have a DVD copy of the “flunk” version. Looks pretty good and I like the colors.

Seems there was some considerable noise reduction applied to the master for the '97 SE, resulting in a motion blurring type appearance.

Not as bad as the GOUT master.

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#1336726
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Star Wars Prequels 35mm 4K Filmized Editions by Emanswfan
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Dek Rollins said:

ChainsawAsh said:

My biggest “compromised purism” in Star Wars is wanting to conform the BR cut of TPM to the theatrical cut - that is, keep the editing of the theatrical cut exactly, but with all the visual updates of the BR (CGI Yoda, mainly).

It’s the only one where something like that would outright replace any official version forever for me.

But Creepy Puppet Yoda™ looks infinitely better than CGI Yoda. CG Yoda constantly has his head at a downward angle and looks up at the people he’s talking to only with his eyes, and he lacks the little bit of expression that CPY had left. Screw consistency, I prefer a decent but weird puppet that looks nothing like the character over awkward CGI that still looks nothing like the character. 😛

I HATE creepy puppet Yoda. HATE!!!

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#1336725
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Star Wars Prequels 35mm 4K Filmized Editions by Emanswfan
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ChainsawAsh said:

My biggest “compromised purism” in Star Wars is wanting to conform the BR cut of TPM to the theatrical cut - that is, keep the editing of the theatrical cut exactly, but with all the visual updates of the BR (CGI Yoda, mainly).

It’s the only one where something like that would outright replace any official version forever for me.

I have made that version. Thanks to finding the original pod race sequence in HD. I had to do a custom edit to remove the speeder flight on Coruscant, but the extended scene has coverage to make it similar.