xhonzi

Gaffer Tape said:

Oh, I think I figured out how R2 got in there.  What ady didn't show us is the preceding footage where there's actually a hole above the cave.  In the last shot, R2 flies up in the air with his rocket boots, does a little figure 8 and a somersault and then lands deftly in the cave.  I mean, obviously it's to match the prequels.  It's like poetry.

Blast, I was all set to go with this same joke.  

Have they done as I suggested and removed the X-Wing from Dagobah?  When Luke has to go save Han, he just fixes a bicycle seat to R2's dome and together they set off for Bespin.

TV's Frink said:

xhonzi said:

Seriously you guys, no one else saw the bump and set?

Was that...a sports reference?  From xhonzi?

 I'm pretty sure it's a joke reference.

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Hypothetical-What-would-you-KEEP/topic/10309/page/2/

Great previous debate about personal canon.  Make sure you stick around for my (dis)missive in post 31.

Glad you asked?  Did you finish it yet?

Darth Bizarro said:

I just picked up Jedi Search yesterday and I ended up reading half the book in one sitting.  Minus Lando's excursion to the blob races, I think it's pretty kick ass.  This will be the first EU book I've read minus the graphic novel adaptation of the Thrawn Trilogy.

After I finish Jedi Academy and go back and read the regular Thrawn Trilogy, I was thinking about skipping on ahead to Hand of Thrawn.  Are there any other books in between that people would recommend or are they pretty much all crap as I've heard?

Are you reading the rest of the Jedi Search trilogy?  You sort of have to now...

The short answer to your question is 'no.'  The slightly longer answer- you can do worse than Children of the Jedi.  And the Black Fleet Crisis had some good moments.  But mostly bad. 

doubleofive said:

That "No" isn't true. It's impossible. You'd think if Lucas always intended Vader to say "no" HE WOULD HAVE HAD HIM DO IT BEFORE NOW.

Search your feelings, L00k5, you know it to be true!

Seriously you guys, no one else saw the bump and set?

Also, the Luke yelling while jumping/falling that was out->in->out.  That could have been done in 1980.

SteveE said:

[my attempt to summarize: The Prequels weren't bad so much as they had an impossible job to do, which was to meet (nay, exceed!) everyone's diverse expectations.  We are all too old to see the PT the same way we see the OT, etc...]

While I agree with your philosophy, I think the PT is also just flat out terrible.  Some of the SW books I read are good, and others are terrible.  If your argument were more true, and the actual quality of the work wasn't as important as my mindset, perspective, and expectations... then I wouldn't experience some to be good and others to be bad.

Yes, we experience things differently as we age.  But yes, the PT are also just total garbage.

TV's Frink said:

xhonzi said:

And Ice Cream is definitely part of the OT. 

And ot.com.  Just ask the politics thread.

Or, inevitably, the BioShock thread.

Just an observation from someone who's spent a lot of time thinking about stories and how to write them- Story is not just a sequence of things happening.  It's about something.  Figure out what your story is about, then use scenes to build that something.

Jedi1520 said:

I think that this thread (and this website in general) is awesome. I was horrified by the prequels and not only think that they are some of the worst films ever made, but will be some of the worst movies EVER made. I think that this site is important.

But I want to start all signing on to the same thing so that we can get this thing moving.

I have one point that I think all of us should sign on to:

(1)

Some of the better ideas I read about have to do with a (forgive the noun) "alien" force threatening the republic. The problem with this is that if there is no "outside" power mentioned in any of the OT movies. And it does not make sense that, if such a power had existed, it would just show up and collapse without a trace. For this reason I think we should adopt as a rule that:

the Anti-Republic force MUST consist of political elements and species that exist in the OT.

Good points- though I think MUST is a strong word.

If an alien presence is the source/a major component of the conflict, then there must be some explanation as to why they're all gone.  "Explanation" itself might be too strong of a word, but let's just say you have to handle anything you bring up that isn't present in the OT.

And Ice Cream is definitely part of the OT.  Just ask Tobar:

TV's Frink said:

xhonzi said:

darth_ender said:

Decided to begin watching Dune (2000 miniseries).  It's strange and glosses over so much from the novel so far, but what can you do  with such a complicated novel when converting it to a visual medium anyhow?  My wife likes it so far.

I quite like the 2000 mini.  There's a "long cut" of it that I think is substantially better and also introduces some european style nudity

So...armpit hair? ;-)

 And how!

I hate unskippable commercials on BDs...  :(

darth_ender said:

Decided to begin watching Dune (2000 miniseries).  It's strange and glosses over so much from the novel so far, but what can you do  with such a complicated novel when converting it to a visual medium anyhow?  My wife likes it so far.

I quite like the 2000 mini.  There's a "long cut" of it that I think is substantially better and also introduces some european style nudity, which I'm sure your wife would approve of as much as mine did (which is to say not at all).

Bingowings said:

The Children Of Dune miniseries is much better (it covers the next two books so doesn't have comparison with the Lynch film hanging over it as a second sword of Damocles).

But I firmly disagree with this.  I thought that mini was a mess.  I've never read the sequel books, so it might not be the mini's fault... but it seems to have no idea where it's going until it's just over.  And I was always into Dune for Paul, so I guess I stopped caring once he exited stage left.  Maybe I should have read Paul of Dune, but it is written by that darn KJA.

There, I fixed it.

What is this thread doing on page 2?!?!

THIS IS NOT A PAGE 2 THREAD!

Pennsylvania Jones said:

doubleofive said:

xhonzi said:

Pennsylvania Jones said:

Everybody's got a water buffalo.

Yours is fast, but mine is slow.

Where do we get them?  I don't know.

But everybody's got a water buffalo.

STOP STOP STOP!!!!  YOU CAN'T SAY THAT EVERYONE HAS A WATER BUFFALO WHEN IT'S CLEAR THAT NOT EVERYONE HAS A WATER BUFFALO!

This is true. He's going to have people calling saying "Where's my water buffalo? Why don't I have a water buffalo?" I don't think he's prepared to deal with that and should stop being so silly.

 

 Glad to see some Veggietales fans here.

wut?

Trading Cards.

doubleofive said:

Gaffer Tape said:

And for those that are a little more discerning, what better incentive to blow money on a prequel trilogy you don't care about than with the lure of deleted scenes you've been waiting almost 30 years for?

They've nearly got me now. Of course, the changes to TPM are enticing as well. As much as I complain about the changes, I feel like I have to own all the versions now...

 If once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny.

bkev said:

Ripplin said:

bkev

Yes/no?

Love it. Thanks! I'll switch tomorrow. And yes, my hair IS shorter now, but... who cares? It's all about my hat.

I thought your hat was bigger and anime blue?

TV's Frink said:

xhonzi said:

TV's Frink said:

Yeah...I thought this was well known.  It's a 9 disc set, the movies on the first 6 discs and the bonus features on the last three.  The OT set and the PT set are each just the 3 discs.  The only bonus features for those are the two commentaries on each movie.

In defense of Lucasfilm, that's not dumb, that's a smart sales strategy.  And other franchise releases (both DVD and Blu) have done something similar.  It sucks, but it's business.

Is it?  You're assuming at least half as many people will buy the whole set to get these bonus discs than people that would buy the OT set to get the bonus disc.

I won't be buying anything... but it would be tempting to get the OT if the bonus disc was included.  Maybe your numbers work out- maybe there are 2-3 people now buying the full set for every person like me not buying anything.  Maybe not.

If it wasn't a smart sales strategy, why would they do it? 

wut?

 They have to have research showing it works.

Maybe it's a deliberate creative decision?

Everyone save the "Lucas just trying to screw us" comments, btw.

Why?  As Gaffer says, it's likely more motivated by Ego than sales anyways.

TV's Frink said:

Moth3r said:

hairy_hen said:

... someone's going to have to rip the audio and send it to me...

As much as I value your opinion, this is the point where I suppose I should point out that this would be piracy, and therefore against the rules of the forum.

But there's so much bullshit surrounding this whole release event that to be quite honest I'm completely "meh" about the whole thing.

So I guess it's ok to pirate this thing then.

What the hell?

Moth3r's not saying it's okay.  Just saying that he's not going to throw the book at hen.

TV's Frink said:

Yeah...I thought this was well known.  It's a 9 disc set, the movies on the first 6 discs and the bonus features on the last three.  The OT set and the PT set are each just the 3 discs.  The only bonus features for those are the two commentaries on each movie.

In defense of Lucasfilm, that's not dumb, that's a smart sales strategy.  And other franchise releases (both DVD and Blu) have done something similar.  It sucks, but it's business.

Is it?  You're assuming at least half as many people will buy the whole set to get these bonus discs than people that would buy the OT set to get the bonus disc.

I won't be buying anything... but it would be tempting to get the OT if the bonus disc was included.  Maybe your numbers work out- maybe there are 2-3 people now buying the full set for every person like me not buying anything.  Maybe not.

TV's Frink said:

It just goes to show how most video games don't accurately depict real life.

 http://www.amazon.com/Half-Real-Video-between-Fictional-Worlds/dp/0262101106/ref=wl_it_dp_o?ie=UTF8&coliid=IU8UEZNZ564H&colid=331BUTX54JY8Z

Available on my Amazon wishlist.  Just look up Mrs. [REDACTED] [REDACTED].

Pennsylvania Jones said:

Everybody's got a water buffalo.

Yours is fast, but mine is slow.

Where do we get them?  I don't know.

But everybody's got a water buffalo.

STOP STOP STOP!!!!  YOU CAN'T SAY THAT EVERYONE HAS A WATER BUFFALO WHEN IT'S CLEAR THAT NOT EVERYONE HAS A WATER BUFFALO!