xhonzi

TV's Frink said:

^Can't blame me for that one.

xhonzi said:

Thanks, Frink... for killing my threads softly with typos.

Hold on a minute.  Since when is this your thread...unless...you're a kahluadarkj sock?  I knew it!

 Well...  it's true that I didn't start it...  But, you know, I was working it, in here... 

I did my moves, I did my dance moves.

Prace your bets!

I like very much your ideas, skye.  It's very far from the norm, and yet it scratches some particular needs for this.  It has some moral-dilemmas and potentially comes with a bookend for the story.  My take, speaking for myself, on the clones being souless was another attempt at building in an "expiration date" for the cloning idea so that it could be done away with prior to the OT starting up.

The telepathy thing comes from them sharing the same "brainwaves" or "mind" as their fellow mold-brothers?  What story(ies) is that from?  Interesting that new, smarter clones could then start to control the whole bunch and start a revolution.

But this other thing you said:

you said:

I thought part of the problem with the PT was that you had these huge battles of "fake" beings fighting with no real emotional attachment to any of them.

I don't know if I posted similar thoughts here earlier... but I totally agree.  It seems that most of the universe sits back and watches either a robot army or a clone army (or both) duke it out for the fate of the... separatists.  So... no one really cares much about the Clone Wars, you would think.  It's certainly not personal to anyone back home.  It might as well be happening 3 galaxies away for as much as the standard person cares.  A moisture farmer on Tatooine probably would never hear of these clone wars, let alone use them as a benchmark for adventure!

I also think that the galaxy at large could welcome a freedom-less Empire in place of a chaotic and violent Republic as long as

1. Peace was assured by the Empire.
2. The cost of human/alien life in the recent war was so high that anything seemed better than war.

In short- I think you have to keep Star Wars prequels primarily about ACTION and less about moral dilemmas... Though they should be there to a point... But the main con I see about your take on clones is that it places the emphasis on the clones themselves.  I can't get my head around that, because I think the clones, while necessary to explain the war, should not be too much the focus of the movies.  I'm too tired to explain that better, but perhaps you know what I mean.

(Crap.  I created this thread to hopefully keep the Avatar change discussions out of other threads.  Looks like I just ended up having my Tex Murphy discussion here instead...)

vote_for_palpatine said:

Big fan of the first game, just started the second game. Available for purchase at gog.com. I am an uncompensated endorser.

 "First" game means some different things to Tex Murphy fans (much as it does to Star Wars fans).

Mean Streets was very first- my mom & dad knew some of the developers.
Martian Memorandum came next
then technology spiked, and...
Under a Killing Moon was sort of the "first" of the new generation.
Pandora Directive perfected the experience
and then
Overseer came along and retold the story from "Mean Streets", so you could consider this the first one.

When Pandora Directive came out, my best friend somehow managed to start playing my copy (at my own house!) before I could, so I dug up Mean Streets and started playing that for some reason.  I got so into it that I finished Mean Streets before starting PD.  I think that's a testament to the quality of a game when you can do that!

Recently, I made my wife play UAKM and PD with me.  We were going to follow it up with Overseer, but somehow we got off track.  :(

Yes.... but I can't think of any right now.

*blush*

Sorry.  :(

You need stickied!

(how's that for a bump?)

Just get Frink in here to have one of his silly threads.  That keeps a thread on top long past its original purpose or value.  :)

LexX said:

 

Also I know pretty much where the half point is so it's kinda easy to put the events after that.

Is this, perhaps, from watching it on video disc or video CD?  We had it on video disc and I remember having to swith sides just after the Millenium Falcon leaves hyperspace (I think) on its way to Alderaan.  We made a VHS dub of the movie, but it still had a harsh audio jump at this point in time.

Ah... my first fan edit.  :)

And, to make you all feel better... here are my results. I didn't take the ANH quiz because I thought I was too close to having taken the notes. Since some time had passed, I thought I was far enough from it to take the ESB. ^The above is proof that I am not a cheater. :)

none, if you were looking for improvement, I think you did it!  So far it leaves you still in 3rd place...  but you were much closer to Boost this time.  You made the same cave/bounty hunter and Luke leaves D/Vader is at CC blunder that Boost made.

Boosts results I think are typical.  Of the other people I've given this quiz to, (including myself) the order of Vader arriving at CC and Luke leaving Dagobah to save his friends seems out of order.  Luke, in the film, has a sense of danger for his friends and decides to leave... and then it cuts to Leia... who's worried about 3PO and a little warry of Lando but is otherwise fine.  Then Lando shows up and small talks them almost to death and then: BAM!  There's Vader.

Other than that: good job on hitting several of those right on the nose!  Not even the mighty LexX can compete with you there!

Again, it looks like LexX will have the score to beat.  He thought the event ordering would be tough (it is) but he nailed them.  He was as much as 8:00 minutes off in the murky middle, but he redeemed himself with one that was spot on!

Well done.

Where are the "legendary pictures" promised by the thread title?

This thread = FAIL.

Okay, VFP... I see your new Tex Murphy Avatar...  I am a huge Tex fan-  I even worked for Access for a summer when Overseer was coming out.

Are you likewise a Tex fan, or did the picture just strike you?

ABC said:

There is no boobs in space anyway...

 Boobs in space or get out!

Warbler said:

 Maybe the director didn't want richer blacks or whitier whites.   

Hey!  Take your ultra-rightwing racist ideas to the politics forum, pal!

I was not allowed to watch OHMSS by my "friends" and "family" in much the same way Ghostbusters II was censored from my cinematic life.

I finally broken down, held up a movie theatre and made them play them back-to-back.  I loved them both.

I actually like Lazenby, and I can give one simple reason: He comes off as English.  I know he isn't (at least, not recently)... but Connery rocks the Scotsman, Moore is as American as apple pie... Dalton was okay, but a little greasy...

I also like that Bond seems truly in love with Contessa and not just sleeping around for the "awesomeness" of it.  Very much Casino Royale (no cheese) there.

OHMSS for the win.  But, as I've declared in my WHY you like what you like thread, I won't try to explain further why I like it or try to convince you that you should.

Yeah, bkev... don't be that guy.

And, like all good computers, he executes his programming until it is countermanded... which it never is?

Ben, Mr. Danger, sir?

Did you find a place to upload that yet?

I've always had the impression that C-3PO and R2-D2 were one step above "stow-aways" on the Tantive IV.  When we are introduced to them, they are wandering the hallways without much direction or purpose (as far as I can tell).  It seems to me that R2 happens to walk down the wrong/right corridor at the wrong/right time and runs into Leia who is desperate for a place to stash the DS plans.

Given the prequels- either as they exist or how they could exist... and given that the Skywalker and Organa families most likely have history with this pair of droids... Does this change your interpretation of those events?  Are the droids specifically hers?  3PO seems pretty ignorant of "The Princess" when Luke and Ben are watching the holo. 

bkev said:

 Also, protagonist pronounced properly.

 :(

Soooo good it needed its own thread?

That's fairly random, Sluggo.  Wait, are you a big fan of that R5-D4 story from Tales from the Mos Eisley Cantina or something?

I haven't seen either movie in years, so I can't really build an objective case...

I just remember thinking Thunderball was pretty awesome and that Never Say Never Again felt like a cheap knockoff to me. 

Irvin Kershner did wonders with ESB, but I can't say that I care for anything else the man ever did.

And I don't have to try to make you look stupid... that big blue anime hair does it for me!  :)