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#452674
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Article on prequel films. Note: Does not pertain to Godfather II, which isn't a prequel - it's a sequel with extended flashback sequences - or a partial prequel to some.
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The first Hulk was made with no appreciation for the TV show, which is far and away what the "little people" think of when they think Hulk.  It left them with a lot of questions: Why did the Hulk tear tanks apart when he just as easily could have knocked over a bookcase?  Weren't there perforated desks and tables to break instead of having to fight soldiers?

The 2nd movie is somewhat of a reboot.  The "origin" scenes are completely different, but not terribly focused on.  The origin is more in line with the TV show.  But it also plays as a loose sequel to the 1st movie.

I liked the 2nd movie better, but I didn't hate the first movie.  I am a moderate Hulk Comic book fan.  Some comics are like the first movie: The Gov't wants to capture/control the Hulk and they send gamma powered dogs, robots or tanks to capture him and he spends a lot of time in the desert smashing stuff.  These comics aren't too good, but they are plentiful.  But the recent Planet Hulk & World War Hulk comics were quite good.  Hulk: The End is good.  House of M: Hulk was good.  Hulk is usually good when it's a little more high concept.  (Hulk IN SPAAAACE, etc.)  When the Hulk movie was more like the "regular" version of the comics, I wasn't surprised or disappointed.  But I wasn't overly joyed either.

It's funny that the 2nd movie was compared very favourably to the 1st, but both had IMDB scores of about 6.6 a couple of weeks after the 2nd came out.  Now they've settled at 5.7 and 7.1 for 1 and 2 respectively.

Did that answer your question, Slug?

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#452664
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Article on prequel films. Note: Does not pertain to Godfather II, which isn't a prequel - it's a sequel with extended flashback sequences - or a partial prequel to some.
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ChainsawAsh said:

Oh, and about the Star Wars prequels - whether or not they did a good job at following established continuity is a moot argument.  They were still designed to take place before Episodes IV-VI, not to start over and pretend they didn't exist (again, how well they did this is moot).  Therefore, prequel and not reboot in any way.

Yes, I was somewhat joking.  But you have to look at the way that "new" Star Wars exists almost to the exclusion of "old" Star Wars and wonder if there wasn't an attempt to "effectively" reboot it, even if they didn't "technically" reboot it.

Therefore, different M - she just happens to be played by the same actress.

Is that more likely than "new Bond, same M"?

So I guess the term "sequel-reboot" can apply here.

I win?  ;)

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#452661
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Monsters
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Yeah, Rancors were specifically what I was thinking of when I thought of EU reuse.  Unless you count Sand Wampas as being an actually thing.

I think it's a pilllar of the Star Wars formula that's often unthought of.

TPM
Big Fish. Bigger Fish, Biggest Fish

AotC
Gladiator Rhino, Mountain Cat, etc..

RotS
Obi-Wan's feathered lizard mount?

Am I forgetting something?

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#452640
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Article on prequel films. Note: Does not pertain to Godfather II, which isn't a prequel - it's a sequel with extended flashback sequences - or a partial prequel to some.
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Gaffer Tape said:

RE:  xhonzi

In GoldenEye, Dench is specifically stated to be a new M, while Brosnan is heavily implied to still be the same Bond.

In what ways is he "heavily implied".  I'm not doubting you, I just don't know what you're referring to.

And couldn't that be used as an argument that in CR, M is heavily implied to be the same M, and Craig is specifically stated to be a new Bond?

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#452614
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Most current posts from all forums on one page?
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Gentleman Frink,

I say, good man, given the lack of this forum contraption of what you speak, how is it that you assuage?  It has come to my attention that you are quite adept at keeping abreast ... on top ... current with all postings on the forum.  I pray thee, in what manner do you accomplish this feat?

With Irregard,

His Highness, The Honourable Dr. Xhonzi, III, Esquire (Emeritus)

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#452608
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Monsters
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How critical are "monsters" to the Star Wars fiction?

ANH
Krayt Dragon (call and skeleton)
Dewbacks
Banthas
Dianoga

ESB
Wampa
Tauntaun
Space slug
Whatever eats R2

RotJ
Rancor
Sarlaac

It seems like something I don't strictly care about, but has always been a focus of the OT.  I don't think a lot of the EU concerns itself with monster scenes.  Unless it's reusing stuff from the OT.