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#452601
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Article on prequel films. Note: Does not pertain to Godfather II, which isn't a prequel - it's a sequel with extended flashback sequences - or a partial prequel to some.
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ChainsawAsh said:

How are the Star Wars prequels reboots in any way?  They don't de-canonize the films they take place before,

* Single raised eyebrow*

And I don't know where all this "sequel" reboot/"prequel" reboot business is coming from.  A reboot is a reboot, plain and simple.  None of the Bond films are reboots except for Casino Royale.  They just have very "fuzzy" continuity.

I think there's always been an undertone that the different Bonds were, in fact, different Bonds.  It's hotly debated amongst fans, but the debate is there.  Is Dench's M in GoldenEye a new M?  She's played that way.  Is Brosnan's Bond a new Bond?  Is Craig's Bond a new Bond or a rebooted Bond?  Dench's M seems to be an interesting variable in that argument.

Depending on your definition of reboot, changing the cast and making a new movie may be all that it takes to make it a reboot.  Hulk -> Incredible Hulk?  (sequel reboot, by the way)  :)

Think of it this way - is every episode of The Simpsons a reboot? 

Erm... of course not.

Of course not,

That's what I said!  However, they did reboot the origin (or retcon, if you prefer) of how Homer and Marge met... but that was after I stopped watching the show, so I'm not sure how much that has stuck.

 it's (in its own way) a "sequel" to the episode that came before it.  But how can Bart have stayed ten years old for 21 years?!  "Fuzzy" continuity, just like Dr. No through Die Another Day.

Possibly.  Like I said, it's a hotly debated question.

And the new Star Trek is still a reboot, it's just that the rebooting is built into the story, unlike Casino and Batman Begins, which simply pretend anything before it doesn't exist.

Yes, but it's a reboot prequel/sequel.  It has Spock from the sequel-verse and Kirk (and Spock again) from the prequel verse.  And then it's a reboot.

And I don't know where all this "sequel" reboot/"prequel" reboot business is coming from. 

I think it came from Godfather II, but apparently we're not allowed to discuss it here.  ;)

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#452460
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How about "Show Pictures" option for those of us rocking without pictures
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I am currently reading the forum without pictures.  That's a very nice option.  It's even nicer that it turns the pics into links that I can click through if I choose.

However, it would be nicer still if there was a button with which you could re-enable pictures for any given page of a thread, just in case it's full of 500 pictures and you don't want to load all of them up, one at a time, in a new browser (tabs).

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#452456
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Politics and Storytelling (Superheroes)
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On episode 5 of Smallville, an innocent "whitebread" girl remarks that she will "never understand liberals" when she is witness to an ~Egyptian human sacrifice ritual.  Boy, are stupid naive conservative kids stupid and naive, or what?

And then on episode 6, Lois is almost sacrificed by Amish-like religious zealots.

Can you deny that there's a pattern here?

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#452446
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Kindle/Nook Thoughts?
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TV's Frink said:

I obviously can't answer this yet, but I thought the big advantage was it's easier on the eyes (i.e. more "booklike"), which is something my wife is concerned about.

Also, can you get a laptop for $139?

As far as I've heard:

  1. the constrast is more "booklike" which is "easier on the eyes",
  2. the battery lasts longer than other mobile electronics
  3. it's lighter than a laptop
  4. Smaller/no keyboard
  5. The fact that it doesn't do more than books is considered a plus to some people.

 

If I put my laptop in low brightness mode, it makes the contrast go to poop and it is pretty easy on my eyes- in the sense that it isn't blowing them out the back of my head and blinding me (with science).

I don't know of any laptops for $139, but you can get a lot of netbooks for about $199. Sure, it's $60 more, but can you post on OT.com from your kindle?

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#452440
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Kindle/Nook Thoughts?
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I don't have any of these things, so please keep that in mind as I share my thoughts:

Why would you unload that kind of bread on a digital device that does so little compared to digital devices in basically the same price range that so much more?

Like Gaffer, I use my laptop for any thing like this.  I don't read a lot of 'text' books on it, but I do read a lot of digital comics on it.  I listen to a lot of audiobooks on my MP3 player.  And I buy (and sell!) a lot of used books.  And I spend enough of my day looking at glowing rectangles, that the time I spend with a book... I kind of like it to be a 'book', you know?

As much as I don't need an iPad, since I have a smart phone, another MP3 player, and a laptop... I would much sooner buy one of those than a book only device.  Actually, I'd just go buy a netbook or a different brand of notebook PC that I can actually run 'real' software on.

That's my 2 cents. 

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#452435
Topic
Article on prequel films. Note: Does not pertain to Godfather II, which isn't a prequel - it's a sequel with extended flashback sequences - or a partial prequel to some.
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ChainsawAsh said:

Casino Royale = reboot.

Same as how Batman Begins isn't a prequel or a sequel - it's a new/alternative starting point for the series.

And Star Trek 2009... and the Star Wars Prequels, I guess, too.

GoldenEye is something of a Reboot too, right?  But it's clearly a sequel reboot.  (or is it? (duh duh duH!)) Is CR a sequel reboot or a prequel reboot, or a reboot reboot?

Gaffer Tape:

Although, granted, there's so little actual continuity with Bond to begin with, it's almost like the terms don't really apply.  But I stick by reboot.

Yeah, that's what I meant.  Each new actor seems to be something of a Reboot.  Except Lazenby.  They put that part where he's going through his desk and the theme music of the previous movies play to remind you that he was supposed to be the same Bond Connery was.  But then there is the Blofeld thing.

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#452434
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Article on prequel films. Note: Does not pertain to Godfather II, which isn't a prequel - it's a sequel with extended flashback sequences - or a partial prequel to some.
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see you auntie said:

Hmmm.... no mentions of Squeakquels?

*quietly backs out of thread*

I just bought that on BD for my kids for Christmas.  ($6 on Amazon Marketplace, yay!)

We watched the first one with them when that first came out on video, and thought it wasn't horrible.  But I have to admit, I enjoyed watching the squeakquel with my kids.  Maybe it's because it has Chuck in it?  Or maybe David Cross...

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#452432
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Article on prequel films. Note: Does not pertain to Godfather II, which isn't a prequel - it's a sequel with extended flashback sequences - or a partial prequel to some.
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Bingowings said:

I thought Quantum Of Solace just as good/bad as Casino Royale (with less cheese).

I can't see why people slapped QOS so hard when it was just following the same style and tone as the previous film.

 

Erm... as soon as Bond and bad guy #1 started fighting whilst suspended downside up, tied by their ankles to chandeliers and punching each other while trying to get a fallen gun (end spoilers), I knew we had left the world of Casino Royale and had starting hitchhiking back to Roger Moore land.

I have reserved judgment on QoS.  If DC Bond #3 is excellent, then it can be the bridge in a nice little trilogy.  I think there is something of a character arc for Bond continued from CR... but I need to see a third Quantum pic to know for sure if it works.

And GoldenEye is the best Bond movie ever and forever.  /Thread.

(By the bye, has anyone else noticed how many threads here de/evolve into passionate Bond analysis.  Hint: it's a lot.)

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#452231
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Article on prequel films. Note: Does not pertain to Godfather II, which isn't a prequel - it's a sequel with extended flashback sequences - or a partial prequel to some.
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But back to the list,

I thought Rise of the Lycans was decent.  It covered pretty much just the story that was briefly told in the first Underworld.  But I found it to be good enough.

And I really liked Terminator Salvation.  Maybe I just have low requirements when it comes to some movie styles...  There are nits that can be picked, for sure, but they don't stop me from digging the movie.

I haven't seen a lot of them (the horror genre seems to be over representin') besides those two, so I'd say prequels are batting about 300... which frankly isn't too far off of sequels.  For me personally.

Mostly....

 

From time to time.

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#452155
Topic
The Academy
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That's my interpretation as well.  It was a military academy.  Luke wasn't thrilled about the Empire at the time, but he wasn't in open rebellion against it.  Getting pilot training, getting the chance to fly, getting off of the farm... all of that stuff, I think, was more important to him at the time than whether the Empire was good/bad.  They didn't have much run in with the Empire out there, I think.