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#593652
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Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 - MKV (Released)
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Mavimao said:

 

pat man said:



bilditup1 said:


pat man said:

This is a non-faded Technicolor 35mm pint.From 1977,there was not many made for a home release.

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...That's an IB Tech print, not 35mm. The one Harmy timed it to is in better condition and doesn't have the vagaries of how the digital camera processed the image or whether the Senator used the right bulb


 sorry I didn't know :(



No, you were right, the IB technicolor star wars prints were regular 35 mm sized prints.

 

While we're being pedantic, there were no 35mm films made for home release. 35mm is a pure commercial format. Now 16mm, that's a different matter.... :)

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#593339
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Making our own 35mm preservation--my crazy proposal
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DVD-BOY said:

I would really like to see a bit of a side by side between these various formats.

+1. I know you're not going to have a whole bunch of time (or desire) to post screenshots, but comparisons of all of these filetypes would be nice (.tiff, .raw, .exr, Cineform, etc.) That way, we could pick the best looking file that was the smallest size.

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#593330
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Making our own 35mm preservation--my crazy proposal
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I wouldn't know where to start either, but if it is (somewhat) easy to learn I wouldn't mind...

Check out some of the samples on their site. There's also a chapter from some book floating around on the internet that explains it pretty well - it is a really neat format. It tries to make digital files more film-like (ie: wider range of colors/response).

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#593327
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Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 - MKV (Released)
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Go back a few pages - it was discussed there in detail. Also, the source Harmy colortimed to was IB Tech. It will never fade. It will never change color. Now, it could be a separate color timing for the IB print, but regardless, the way it looked on the film he colortimed to was exactly the way it should look. Remember that photographing a screen does not give you accurate results. Period. It is a good indicator (sometimes) unless it tries to brighten or darken to "fix" the white balance. Other than that, I think I would trust Harmy's scans (which may have come from Mike himself) over a picture of a frame, projected onto a screen.

Also, remember what he said when he released it? Please keep comments between PMs. Don't ruin the film for someone else. It is finished, and I don't think that Harmy would appreciate people griping about something that he spent hundreds of thousands of hours on, making it as perfect as he could given the sources he had.

/rant.

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#593296
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Making our own 35mm preservation--my crazy proposal
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That might be a fair compromise.

I'm CONUS, too, so the shipping for me would not be a big deal - maybe $50-60 tops to ship the hard drives. However, for people who were interested, like Harmy, it could get really expensive really quickly. Not only would they have to fork out the money for the terabyte harddrives, but they would incur huge shipping costs. I just shipped 10 DVDs to a South American fellow and he had to pay $58 in shipping - and that was the dirt cheapest way. I just don't want our non-CONUS members to get shafted because it will be a huge file...

Would one be able to do a 1080p OpenEXR? I read a bit about it yesterday, but am still a little confused about what it does. Does it make the files smaller, using a better compression ratio or something?

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#593248
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Making our own 35mm preservation--my crazy proposal
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I have to agree. I think that by as many people having the raw files as possible, that the "preservation factor" is the most it can be. It's like some of the studio audio files and bootlegs that leak occasionally; once they're out there, their rarity is diminished. Also, who would've thought even 5 or 6 years ago that a slightly large download would be 16gb? I think that as time goes on, the ability to download huge files will become more commonplace.

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#593185
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Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 - MKV (Released)
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Check earlier in the thread re: Tatooine color timing. It is keyed to a '77 IB Tech print - that is how it should look. I didn't have any problems with stuttering, fwiw.

 

Also, in the future, please PM Harmy with questions about "errors" in the film. It could ruin it for somebody else if they didn't notice it.