Chewielewis said:
Hardcore Legend said:
What evidence? It isn’t that she knew about Luke because he was a Jedi, it was that she knew the stories of the Rebel Alliance. She was just as much a fangirl of Han Solo. Can we deduce she knew how to fix/fly the Falcon bc she knew everything about Han Solo, back to front? If so, no wonder Owen never told Luke stories about his father. He’d have become the best star pilot in the galaxy and a cunning warrior right there on the ground in the desert.
She knew Luke skywalker and she knew about the Jedi. This exchange from TFA.
HAN
There're a lot of rumors. Stories.
The people who knew him the best
think he went looking for the first
Jedi temple.
REY
The Jedi were real?
HAN
I used to wonder that myself. Thought
it was a bunch of mumbo-jumbo --
magical power holding together good,
evil, the dark side and the light.
(BEAT)
'Crazy thing is, it's true. The
Force, the Jedi, all of it. It's
all true.
So it’s implied that Rey has heard these crazy stories too. Which we can safely assume would include Jedi using Mind tricks. In her world the Jedi are a myth, magical wizards who can move rocks and fuck with peoples minds.
But I never said thats How she could do the mind trick. She was able to do the mind trick because she gained that knowlege thorugh that Kylo mind meld. How does that work? The same way throwing a child into the deep end teaches them how to swim. You could say THE FORCE AWAKENED in her.
Rey knows how to fly because shes been around ships all her life, she knows the falcon because Unkar Putt owns it and shes probably been in it many times. In Star Wars, knowing how to fly is basically knowing how to drive.
Wait, are we saying Rey now gains her power in the Force through the linking of minds with Kylo? I just made that up in my previous post. Is there any explanation of that in the films or any other materials?
This ST might have been better served if when Snoke revealed he had linked Kylo and Rey’s minds, he also revealed that HE had been the one using the Force through Rey and all the things she had done in her escape in TFA were him manipulating her mind to embarrass his pupil (Kylo) and to draw out Skywalker. Then her fear that she was “nobody” and she had no part in this story was true. Kylo still kills Snoke but Rey, now broken much like Luke was at the end of ESB, must actually learn to use the Force to defeat Kylo.
Instead, she’s done everything she’s wanted to in the Force within 5 minutes of trying it the first time…without anyone prompting her on how to do it.
And we are assuming she’s heard enough stories about the Jedi on the desert planet she lives on with no parents, mentors or guardians to have taught herself to be a Jedi without even knowing it.
I just find it hard to believe no one in the story group or the LFL team working on the films told Rian if he’s going to go the route of her being a nobody with no ties to the PT/OT, you’re going to have to explain some of this on-screen or in EU.