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#1603968
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The Rings of Power 1 - The Shadow of the Past
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Thank you for the extensive notes. While some of them are things that I’ve never thought about, some were deliberate choices that I’ll try to explain below.

  1. Galadriel and the flashback to her brother on the boat:

The audio and sequence were lifted straight from the show. The only thing I changed were the visuals that went with the flashback, and the reason I did that is that Finrod’s advice seemed a very odd thing to say in paradise before anything bad had happened. In many ways, it embodied the Elvish mindset after Morgoth destroyed the trees and stole the Silmarils, the mindset that drove them from Valinor to Middle Earth the first time and the same mindset that was now driving Galadriel to make the same choice again.

2 and 3) about the transitions and the look between Halbrand and Galadriel. Good points. I’ll consider those.

  1. The Stranger with the Snails:

Yes, this was a very tricky scene because it was originally intercut with Nori’s father breaking his ankle, which was a plotline I cut entirely. It could probably use some further polishing, maybe using the soundtrack to smooth over some of those transitions.

  1. Galadriel’s dream sequence:

Honestly, this was mostly done in order to include that Elrond and Galadriel night scene (which I rather liked for better insight into her motivations) without stretching the beginning of the story out further. I can certainly re-evaluate how much of a purpose it really serves though.

Also, I did apply the same slight vignette effect that I applied during the prologue and also during all other flashbacks.

  1. and 7) On extending music further over transitions - sure, I’ll take a look at those.

  2. The cow:

I understand what you are saying, but the black goo really took me out of the story when I was watching it. I do agree that, without it, Arondir seems a bit paranoid, but that’s also kind of how his character starts out even in the original bar scene.

  1. and 10) More music transitions - I’ll look into it.

  2. The Elendil and Isildor transition - This was really tricky since I wanted to cut the rest of their conversation. You make an interesting suggestion about leaving it unresolved until we see Isildor aboard the ship.

  3. The Theo to Stranger and Nori transition - Again, this was tricky to pull off. I tried to overlay the Sauron theme in order to strengthen the implication that the Stranger might be Sauron, but it cuts off very abruptly. Maybe I need a different soundtrack sample of the Sauron music in order to smooth the transition.

  4. Theo and Arondir and the Hilt:

This was a really painful scene for me to cut, because I love it. That said, I needed to get rid of it because my edit has no fake hilt. It always struck me as odd that nobody noticed how basic the thing wrapped up was until that moment, but I suppose I could consider re-integrating it and still imply that it was captured off screen.

  1. Nori and Poppy vs the Mystics:

Yes, it’s less developed than in the original, but what I hope is communicated is that Nori sees the Mystics tracking the Stranger at night and decides to get Poppy and follow them in order to help him/see what is going on, in spite of everything that happened earlier.

  1. Saddoc:

I don’t expect that we will see much of the Harfoots beyond Nori and maybe Poppy until maybe the end of the series when I expect we’ll get some type of founding of the Shire thing. If there is a considerable time before we see them again, it should be easy enough to imply that Saddoc died during the interrum.

Again, thank you for all the notes. I got some from one other reviewer as well, and after a week or so, I plan to go through all the feedback to see what I can improve. Around then, season 2 will also start, and I’ll be able to see if anything needs to change in order to fit that content.

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#1603710
Topic
The Rings of Power 1 - The Shadow of the Past
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Well the biggest cut is the entire eruption aftermath, forging of the three, and Sauron reveal - all of which I held back for a second movie.

The other biggest cut is that I skipped the entire chain gang story with Arondir and the orcs and baby warg. Instead, he gets captured and taken straight to Adar. They talk, and he gets sent back with Adar’s ultimatum.

A lot of the delay plotline in Numemor is cut, so things with Elendil’s daughter and Pharazon’s son, Isildor and his friends, the loss of the fourth boat, Halbrand going back and forth about whether or not he’ll go along. Most of this was done just to trim fat in the story and runtime.

The only other really noticeable cuts are in the battle for the Southlands. I ended up entirely removing Arondir’s fight with the eye-spike orc. I had first tried to reduce the amount of gore in that sequence but found too many inconsistencies between the shots that were left. After fiddling with several versions, I realized that the mid-stage of the battle could wrap up a lot more quickly without it and still make sense since it’s a fake out. I also removed the reveal that they were mostly fighting fellow Southlanders (since that wasn’t consistently true anyway) and the Bronwyn surgery sequence due to the focus on gore again.

I’ll send you a PM.

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#1603654
Topic
The Rings of Power 1 - The Shadow of the Past
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This 3-hour 45-minute edit covers the events of The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power season 1 (up through the eruption of Mount Doom, along with the conclusion of the Harfoot and Stranger story).

The edit is available upon request in 1920x800 resolution, mp4 format, 14.23 GB file size.

There are countless edits throughout this film, intended to streamline the story, reduce running time, avoid lore issues, and enhance characterization. That said, the major distinctives of this edit are as follows:

  • Single-movie format with brief intermission
  • Day/Night cycles synched throughout the film (roughly 9 days with some implied time-lapses)
  • Almost daily check-ins with each of the major plotlines so that none get forgotten
  • Harfoots get a prominent role as the emotional heart of the film
  • Finrod’s advice to “Touch the darkness” is linked to the Elven fall/decision to leave Valinor
  • The Orcs take no prisoners; the tunnels are only for invading the villages
  • The wolf attack takes place in the Harfoot’s starting location (color matching used)
  • Theo is implied to have gone back to the village to get the hilt, as well as food
  • Mithril is derived from an Elven soul, not a Silmaril
  • Adar is captured in the battle, with no additional horse chase
  • Durin decides to mine with Elrond after talking about their friendship, not after seeing a leaf get healed
  • The hilt magically erupts the volcano; there is no mechanical contraption involved
  • The film/season ends with the eruption, leaving the aftermath and forging for a second film, which I hope to spread out using hypothetical season 2 story elements
  • Saddoc is shown alive in the final Harfoot scenes

For anyone who has seen my workprint, all footage has been redone to take advantage of higher quality sources. Because of this, all transitions were also redone and several scenes were recut for greater efficiency.

In addition, new VFX have been created in DaVinci Resolve Studio for the following:

  • “The Lord of the Rings” removed from the title card, as it wasn’t part of the title for “The Hobbit”
  • Color grading for dawn and dusk in several scenes
  • Color grading to re-set the wolf attack in a forest that looks more like the original Harfoot location
  • Reduced/recolored shots to reduce the presence of burned plants/ground in the Grove (again to make it look more like the original Harfoot location)
  • Basic compositing to replace the Mystic footprint in the mud with a wolf pawprint
  • New burned-in titles and subtitles, where appropriate, using a more thematic font

Special thanks and inspiration for the following sequences/aspects of the edit:

  • Abbreviated prologue (Crossvader and Anjohan)
  • Raft without refugees (Crossvader)
  • Less argumentative Galadriel throughout (Anjohan)
  • Abbreviated star-chart theft (Stiepan90)
  • Mithril reveal montage with resonating (Anjohan)
  • Gore toned down in Southlands battle (Crossvader)
  • Southlands battle transition (Crossvader)
  • Only Nori and Poppy confront the Mystics (Crossvader)
  • The Harfoots never migrate until their final scene (Crossvader)

Additional thanks for the following for their series analysis, which informed my editorial choices:

  • Nerd of the Rings
  • The Broken Sword
  • The Prancing Pony Podcast
  • Rings and Realms

What about the rest of Season 1 you ask? Well, I’m hoping to integrate it into the first half of Season 2 in order to slow down the pace of those events. Based on this edit, I’m hoping to have a full trilogy of films by the time Season 2 is done, but that will obviously depend upon the content we receive.

Thank you again to everyone in this community who has edited or thrown around ideas for this series. It’s been a joy to work on this project, and I hope that (like me) you can now more easily find a place for the Rings of Power alongside the Jackson films.

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#1583102
Topic
(The Mandalorian+BoBF) The Way of Mandalore | A New Mandalore Movie Saga (Final Update in Progress)
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I think fewer non-English lines from the Armorer when they are outside would help. She doesn’t often speak in the Mando language in other scenes.

Otherwise, this is very good. I’m not a professional, but this sounds quite passable to me. I love that this pays off the small eye-contact interaction from the Mythosaur encounter that the vanilla show made very little of.

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#1579190
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Star Trek Deep Space Nine: Enhanced 4K & 1080p Edition (a WIP)
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I don’t know anything about current activity on this project, but I do know that a couple people on YouTube (including one who is also on the Topaz forums) is working on 90s Trek upscaling.

Independently, I’ve begun upscaling my DS9 and VOY DVDs to 1080p using some custom Topaz settings and then a polish export via DaVinci Resolve. The results aren’t as scene-specific as this effort, but they’re a huge step up from the DVDs and enough to let my family enjoy the episodes.

I follow the following steps:

  1. Rip MKV file from DVD.
  2. Deinterlace using Handbrake (manually set the framerate at 29.9… because otherwise it’ll turn out choppy).
  3. Run though Topaz using Apollo to make the video 30 fps - this is just something I do for all my files to ensure a universal framerate for my footage.
  4. Run through Topaz using a manual-setting Proteus 4 upscale to full hd 1080p.
  5. Add slight hallation effect in DaVinci Resolve and re-export - this reduces the file size too.
  6. Re-export using Handbrake to further reduce the file size, ending up around 2-2.5 GB per episode.
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#1578361
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Community Focus Thread 1: The Phantom Menace
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Darth Raditz said:

I watched Q2’s Episode 1 edit for the first time yesterday and it got me thinking: Could you make Maul the Sith that the Trade Federation is in league with? You’d have to darken his face in his hood, cut out frames in the Tatooine lightsaber duel that show his face off, maybe even shoot new footage of Maul alone on Tatooine to sell the idea, but it would be fun to redub his lines and make him more of an active villain in the movie. Plus that “but which was destroyed, the master or the apprentice” line hits harder because there’s another Sith still out there, especially if you’re not teasing that Palpatine’s behind it all too early.

Agreed. Tipping Palpatine too early is one of the biggest issues I have with the prequels. Yes, it’s obvious for old-school fans, but it’d be cool if he was a mystery to new viewers, just as he is to the characters.