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- The Rise of Skywalker: Vader's Legacy Edition (WIP)
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These new sequences are amazing. They’re going to add so much depth.
These new sequences are amazing. They’re going to add so much depth.
I’ve watched this dialogue evolve through countless iterations in the other threads, and I’m very excited to see this version come to fruition. Excellent ideas here!
I’m very interested in this project too. I tried my own basic upscale using the DVDs and Topaz but am always interested in seeing the wonders that more detailed people are able to produce.
Please leave it ambiguous whether Palpatine did or did not actually have any role in the creation of Anakin or Rey. That way, conversations like this can continue and be had by anyone who watches instead of having the edit lock in one or the other theory.
I really love this most recent version and the simultaneous clarity and ambiguity that it brings, reframing the entire saga but also through layers of unreliable narrators and interpretation. It gives fans stuff to think about and argue over without making any direct contradictions to the official universe’s past or likely future. Well done!
I like it. How about “But we share an unbreakable bond, stronger than he can imagine.”
I really like this approach, but some of the proposed exposition could be tightened up.
“You were adopted from the hoard of the Sith” > “She stole you from the Sith.”
“Chasing rumors of a congregation dedicated to Skywalker’s Jedi. But they couldn’t escape the sweeping shadow of the Sith.” > ?
“Because his spirit chose another vessel, rendering the others created by his followers as threats to his rule. Rey, you… are his clone.” > “Because his spirit chose another vessel. All the others became threats to his rule. You, Rey, were his clone.”
Oh I would love to see Discovery and Picard ‘fixed’ like you have mentioned in this thread and watch that from the start again. 😃 Thank you!
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My rework project has both grown in scope and slowed down as I am trying to learn a range of new tools I have at my disposal (DaVinci Resolve Studio and Topaz AI in particular). I also lost the hard drive where the iMovie versions were stored, which means that I can’t simply have that open in a separate window and copy each change.
Version 1 of these edits remain very watchable, but version 2 may take a while.
I’m interested in the idea of splitting the sequence as described a few posts back. That way, the action isn’t lost, and it’s actually used to break up more of that non-action.
I really like your choice of shot to introduce Ahsoka herself.
Neravar’s version works, since it refers to the entire senate as being overwhelmed and also as members commissioning the Resistance pilots. The implication is that we’re talking about two groups in the senate.
The other suggestion singles out “daring senators” as being both overwhelmed and commissioning the Resistance. That sounds contradictory to me.
A couple of specifically timed Vader flashes during her dual with Baylan could also further explain why she lost. She was distracted and compromised and he was bringing that even more to the surface.
Without making the film repetitive, what we need here are a few more parallels to “Kenobi.” Both characters need to start clearly broken by Anakin’s fall and regain themselves when they come to accept who he is and who they are today. The biggest difference, besides the framing plot, is that ObiWan faces a fallen Anakin and distances himself in the end, while Ahsoka faces a redeemed and mature Anakin and accepts him as part of herself.
I continue to think that one of the biggest issues with the Anakin/Ahsoka thread in this series is that it comes out of nowhere.
If Ahsoka is supposed to be so scared of being like Anakin that she refused to train Sabine (or Grogu), it would be nice to see glimpses of that prior to this near-death sequence.
Maybe some flashes of these Clone Wars scenes or even flashes of Vader earlier when her mind is wandering or resting would help sell this paralyzing fear in her background.
Then, when Baylan spells it out, we could even get another flash of Vader, and then she is reunited with him.
Afterwards, the training holo could be used to show that she’s no longer afraid of him, as does her willingness to embrace his style of tactics to rescue Sabine and Ezra, and ultimately we see his approval as Anakin himself looks on.
What’s next is for it to quickly get integrated into the film before someone rethinks it again!
Also, it’s time for someone to make that 2 hour edit of all possibly crawls for this film.
I prefer the total rewrite.
If you do use the first version, I would encourage you to lowercase “Starfleet” or change it to simply “fleet” to avoid crossing the vocabulary streams with a certain other universe.
For what it’s worth, I like “of” better.
I also recommend commas after “Resistance” and “New Republic” since it’s that’s an added phrase in the middle of the larger sentence.
Have you considered removing all instances of Merrik (the ghost inquisitor)? I wonder if everything might be tighter and the reveal with the reanimated stormtroopers better if he wasn’t in the story.
What if Balaan Skall’s line about the legacy of violence from Anakin and Ahsoka was said right after she throws Shinn? Like he sees the violence and Vader-like action, says that, then a moment later knocks her off the cliff and says that it was always that way with her.
I do also miss the craziness of that hyperscape jump and the X-Wings. I’m not sure if that could be worked back in without getting back into the mediocre New Republic stuff.
Fan Editing is a quasi-academic form of criticism and viewer-response/interaction with the source material.
I think that “Resistance militia” just sounds a little clumsy. I’d prefer either term by itself, and the common use of “the Resistence” in the movie means that it’s the term we have to keep.
But “failed” gives away too much.
Maybe, “who promised to restore the Jedi order?”
Did you consider redistributing the flashbacks in more of a PTSD fashion throughout Acts 1 and 2 to further integrate/build Ashoka’s arc and explain her standoffishness?
I’m glad the spacewalk is still there. It may be a little nuts and over the top, but it was also not something we’ve seen before and kind of awesome.
Is there anything you can do to make the initial story more about finding Ezra and less about stopping the possible return of one Star Destroyer and admiral? I’d love it if the extent of the threat was kind of discovered rather than presupposed by everyone.
I got this “video review” series recently recommended to me for Ahsoka. It is quite fun, with some nice commentary on the series, and Star Wars in general.
“Not Obi-Wan Kenobi” YouTube channel, by Charlie Hopkinson.
They are deepfake videos sketches for “Where Obi Wan has come to retire and chill” (in a flat-share somewhere in Britain, in 2023), along with Qui-Gon, Anakin, and occasionally a few other characters too.
He’s done a number of Star Wars video content, but these are the 7 videos for Ahsoka so far:
Chapter 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0MWO3CUoJQ
Chapter 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTrOnBkxiIo
Chapter 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5a0vwqvz1P4
Chapter 4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_WXPv0NY6g
Chapter 5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiKFsWJ6j2E
Chapters 6 & 7: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJzPK3fn_ws
I watch fake ObiWan almost every week. Fake Gandalf was pretty great too (same guy).
Seriously, his commentary is often more entertaining than the shows themselves.
I’m also super impressed with both his voice impressions and his deep fake work.
I’m a little worried about how little I expect will be resolved this season. For 8 whole episodes, I think it’s going to amount to all setup. That’d be fine (it’s pretty interesting setup) if we could go straight on to the payoff, but with the strikes and all, I’m not expecting to see anything more for this story until very late 2024 at the absolute soonest. That’s not good.
I never saw that Prisoner and Goblet had been released. If they are, I’d certainly like to check them out.