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#1624198
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Mrebo said:

My edit has been on the back burner but occasionally game out how to address things I want to address.

Changing the podrace announcer was a dream out of my reach but with AI it would be easy.

This is not perfect (link good for 2 days) but it’s pretty good:

https://streamable.com/xdrunx

Please spill your secrets, something like this would be so, soooooo useful for some of my ideas.

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#1621963
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How old Anakin and Obi Wan were originally supposed to be?
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There were conflicting ways with which Lucas tried to reconcile making Anakin and Vader the same person (I don’t say this in a negative way; I think is the best creative decision in all of Star Wars, personally).
In Ben’s monologue to Luke in SW77/ANH, he describes Anakin as if he’s a peer, and Vader as “a young Jedi” and his pupil.

I think the idea is that, when the characters were combined for ESB and ROTJ, it was retconned so that Vader and Ben were closer in age. As said in ROTJ, Anakin was still his student, but they became peers after Anakin became a knight.
I think there’s a slightly noticeable shift in Vader’s portrayal between ANH and ESB in making him appear more “mature”. He’s more stoic, his voice is deeper, and he moves in a more deliberate fashion. I think that’s a result of Vader, behind the scenes, going from being just Ben’s former pupil, separated by decades in age, to his former friend, around the same age, as well as being a father. This is solidified by Anakin’s unmasked self and Force ghost in 1983 being a similar age to Ben.

When it came time for the Prequels, it seemed that Lucas changed his mind and went back to the idea that Anakin/Vader is noticeably younger then Obi-Wan, leaning more towards his description as a young Jedi. The Prequels establish that he was only 22 upon turning to the dark side, when Obi-Wan was 38. This is what led to the Force ghost change. I’m sure Lucas handwaves his rough appearance when unmasked to being roasted by lava (I prefer the idea of dark side physical corruption).

I think a middle ground is better. Anakin should’ve been more in his late twenties when turning, with Vader being in his 50s in the OT. 22 is just too young. But I don’t think Vader should be like, in his 70s in the OT either.

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#1619466
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The <strong>Original Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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I like the idea that Darth Vader was widespread knowledge but Luke doesn’t know because he’s a scrappy farm boy in the far reaches of the galaxy. In my mind, Motti and Ozzel were just narcissists who didn’t believe in the Force and paid the price. Being that the Empire was made in the image of the Sith, self-obsessed arrogant assholes are gonna be the guys in power.

On another topic, the redwood forests in ROTJ were also used for filming for Walking with Dinosaurs because its conifers resemble those from the Mesozoic, when conifers dominated the world’s flora. I think it’s interesting how the Endor moon appearing primeval contrasts the technological advancement that is the Death Star II, and how the Empire’s defeat shows that what is ancient is not necessarily inferior. Maybe Endor could be given a more prehistoric vibe?

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#1618319
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The ‘Custom Special Edition’ That Almost Wasn’t, But Then Was (Released)
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Hal 9000 said:

Thanks very much for facilitating this, and to Ryan for taking the time. Trying to be objective, I find myself preferring the AI line delivery. It feels more authentic to me, so I plan to go with that one. As we’ve all learned around here, though, it is awesome to have choices.

All good. I wanted the line for my own edit anyway, so it definitely won’t go to waste.

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#1618227
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<strong>Return Of The Jedi</strong> - a general <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> thread
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The Emperor’s insistence on being there to witness the Rebellion’s defeat is a form of unintentional self-sabotage.

He spent his whole life on this conquest for power, and when he finally gets it… there’s no thrill. He spends all day sitting in a chair. How boring is that? He needs to put himself in positions where he can get a new high off of showing off his power.

That’s why he needs to be there for the Battle of Endor. He needs that high, because otherwise he’s just feels empty. And it’s ultimately his undoing.

Many say Vader got the short end of the stick in having to do the Emperor’s dirty work, but what I find interesting, especially in Canon, is you can tell that Vader does get a thrill out of his missions. He likes to show off his power, like the Emperor.

The Emperor and Vader are essentially in a toxic codependent father-son relationship: they can’t live without each other unless they have a replacement (for both, this is Luke). Otherwise Vader doesn’t have a mission, and the Emperor doesn’t have a throne to sit on. You can’t have politicians without enforcers, and you can’t be the Sith Master if you’re not the Master of any Sith. Vader may be a slave of the Emperor, but in a twisted way, the Emperor is also a slave of Vader. What’s he gonna do without him?

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#1617332
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Community Focus Thread 2: Return of the Jedi
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Ryan Golden’s read of lines for Vader for the Vader-Fett subplot discussed for the first act.
I incorporated the idea of Fett using the Sarlacc to capture Luke. The last line is my own idea: Vader kills Fett for his failure.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/159XcW70MwSRVj4Ce8ThuxNHrsO5Hkg87/view?usp=sharing

If one uses this lines, please always credit Golden, and do not use these to train AI.

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#1617273
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The <strong>Original Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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AlbertKleppin said:

This looks pretty good and I really think more artists doing this could lead to a lot of great PT edits that bring them that much closer to the OT. My one critique is I feel I can see just a bit too much of the “painting” texture artifacts, as if it were actually painted. The amazing things about the mattes in the OT, at least most of them, and at least in my opinion, is that you can barely spot the fact that they’re paintings, and the painting/canvas texture is barely visible. Just my two cents, but nice work!

Thanks!
The painting texture artifacts are something I tried my best to keep on the down-low, but unfortunately that’s actually the least painting-like I could make it look.

One way to think of it is, I like the idea of trying to make the Prequels look slightly older then the Originals. As if they were actually made in order. I want this because the Originals are still gonna be the best no matter what you do, so trying to make the movies actually be able to be watched in 1-6 order is pretty great IMO.