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I’ve found another interesting fan-edited scene on YouTube and it’s made me wonder if I should include something like it in my ANH edit. What do you guys think?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPa2p50MuQ4

I have finished editing my TPM edit, complete with that fandub of Jar Jar and the Gungans I linked earlier. I just need to export it.

Knight of Kalee said:

Very interesting concept! It gives Vader more of a personal agenda, rather than being Tarkin’s lackey as the film itself suggests. If Palpatine’s hologram and lip-syncing can be done in a convincing way, I support it 😄

Oh yeah, I actually didn’t have that in mind but it’s another great reason! Maybe I’ll also trim Leia’s line “I should’ve expected to find you holding Vader’s leash” as another way of making him seem like less of a lackey.

Knight of Kalee said:

I came across that edit a couple months ago and I liked it, as the new voice and specially the redone dialogue paint him as a completely different character, more like an everyman. How do you plan to implement it? because there’s not many of those new Jar Jar scenes that have been released.

He actually posted a Google drive link to his whole edit in the comments section of the last Jar Jar clip he posted on YouTube in a reply to someone who said “This is great! I can’t wait for the final edit!” I’m going to use his dub for Jar Jar and all of the Gungans.

I’ve just found this fandub of Jar Jar that I actually quite enjoy. I think I may include it in my fan-edit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58yrGVFDHc8

Just a little bit of an update, I’ve been spending the last two days working a lot on my edits for TPM and AOTC. They’re not done but I can say for certain they will be next week. My ROTS edit is done except for Padme’s new death. Hal has generously given me lines for one of the droids but I need someone to do another droid (though I may just do this one myself), Yoda and Palpatine (each only has one new line). I will be uploading previews of this new scene as I’m working on it.

As you can probably tell the prequel edits will be available before the OT ones.

I’d love to have the link please. Thank you.

Hal 9000 said:

You know what? If you’d like I wouldn’t mind volunteering to dub over another medical droid. Lol

Wow, thank you! I’m working on a little mini-script for the scene right now, I’ll let you know when it’s done.

I’ve thought of a possible way I can do the Sidious draining Padme’s life force scene at the end of my ROTS. However I’ll need someone who could do a voice over for a couple medical droids (one that talks to Sidious about Vader and one that talks to Obi-Wan and Yoda about Padme) and someone who can do a really good Yoda and Palpatine impression.

Knight of Kalee said:

Your ideas surprised me for the best. For me it’s always been hard to choose prequel edits because while they get rid of the cringe, most also trim scenes I genuinely like (Yoda using a lightsaber comes to mind) or try too hard to make them match the OT. Your intended edits to Empire and ROTJ are the exact same ones I had thought of making to Adywan’s Revisited edition and IlFanEditore’s color-corrected ROTJ. So far your changes list strikes a good balance for me, so I’m looking forward to see them finished!

Thanks! And yeah I agree here, I never thought it was a problem for Yoda or Sidious to have lightsabers at all. The first two answers here explain better then I can:
https://www.quora.com/Did-people-hate-Yoda-having-a-lightsaber-in-the-Star-Wars-prequels

Just curious, what do you think of V1 of the ANH Vader and Sidious scene I linked that I made?

Knight of Kalee said:

Your Vader vs Obi-Wan idea is alright for me, if the rest of the movie is suitably improved to look more like the redone scene.

I see, do you have suggestions for how I may be able to do that?

ExpandedUniverses said:

This sounds incredible! It sounds like an excellent edit of the Saga that bridges everything together. I’ll be very excited to see the finished products. : )

Thank you very much! Imma be honest, I was a little worried I would get bad reactions for some of my more radical changes or using Adywan’s edit as a base but you’ve made me feel much better now lol

This is a thread for my personal fan-edits of episodes 1-6, my Star Wars saga.

My saga is called the Vader Edition because my main goal with the Prequels was to fit better with OT Darth Vader. This subtitle carries over to the OT edits to indicate that they are part of the same continuity.

My edits are admittedly a combination of others ideas and my own. All other editors are credited.

Prequel Trilogy

My own radical re-edits of the Prequels, mostly in service of fitting with my interpretation of OT Darth Vader.

The Phantom Menace (on hold)

This edit is on hold until some other edits which have interesting ideas, and as such, I wish to see the execution of them before attempting a similar thing, if I think it works.

• Faster paced opening that reorients the Jedi’s goal from negotiating with the Federation to saving the Queen.
• Neimodians and Gungans all redubbed in an alien language, characterizations changed.
• More emphasis on Maul hunting the Jedi on Tatooine.
• Anakin is more reserved. He shouldn’t be too happy or joyous, he’s a slave. He has no friends.
• Watto and Anakin alien dialogue resubtitled to imply a more abusive relationship.
• Deleted scene of Anakin beating up Rodian kid readded (he’s not Greedo though).
• Deleted scene of Qui-Gon destroying probe droid readded.
• Restructuring of the final battle from “Cloak of Deception” used.
• A lot more.

Attack of the Clones (on hold)

Primarily focusing on ROTS for now.

• Anakin is more like Darth Vader from the OT. He’s colder, bolder, more calculating and reserved. He represses his remorse for the death of the Tuskins (he doesn’t kill the women and children) and is more convicted to his path to power.
• Anakin and Obi-Wan training scene from Obi-Wan Kenobi added.
• Cut a lot of Anakin and Obi-Wan arguing to make the lighter scenes between them shine more (including the opening training scene).
• Anakin and Padme romance reedited, using deleted scenes and cutting material to appear more realistic and tolerable.
• Deleted scenes with Padme’s family readded.
• Deleted scene of Mace and Obi-Wan used instead of hallway scene with Yoda.
• Cut Jocasta-Nu scene to speed up Obi-Wan’s investigation. Yoda/Youngling scene tells us all we need to know and is more important.
• Hal9000’s version of the droid factory scene.
• Readded deleted scene of Padme and Dooku discussing politics.
• None of the nonsense with the droids in the final act.
• A lot more.

Revenge of the Sith (in-progress)

• Once again, more Darth Vader-like Anakin. He shows less remorse towards the death of Dooku, nor any doubt in his convictions towards Palpatine and against the Jedi.
• Deleted Shaak-Ti/Grievous scene from the opening act readded.
• Took cues from Hal9000 “Labyrinth of Evil” to emphasize Anakin’s political siding with Palpatine. The Palpatine-Council subplot is moved before the nightmare.
• Emphasize Anakin’s general lust for power and feeling that the Jedi are holding him back, once again to make Anakin more in tune with the power-hungry Lord Vader from the OT.
• Anakin wants the power of immortality for himself, not just to save Padme, and this will be Palpatine’s main pitch to Anakin that gets him to turn to the dark side.
• In the end, wanting to save Padme is more the straw that broke the camel’s back. If we’re comparing to Michael Corleone’s arc in The Godfather, it functions less like the assassination attempt on Vito and more like Apollonia’s death.
• Padme political subplot readded.
• No Chewbacca.
• No youngling killing.
• No, “From my point of view, the Jedi are evil!”. Vader isn’t making excuses for his actions.
• Padme dies because of Anakin’s force choke.
• More badass suited Vader scene that emphasizes that he’s moved past Padme in his pursuit of the power of the dark side.
• And more.

Original Trilogy

These edits are more minor and entirely aesthetic choices as opposed to the more larger narrative changes of the Prequels. As such, they’ll also be worked on more sporadically.

To make my stance clear: the theatrical cuts of the OT are masterpieces, and my favorite films of all-time.

However, for the sake of connecting them to my version of the larger saga, both my edits of the Prequels and the Canon Vader comics (which are canon to my edits), I’m making alternate versions, but not in an irritating SE way. It will also make adjustments that, while don’t make or break the movies, tickle my fancy a bit more.

However, my intent is that any additions must fit the aesthetic of the theatrical cuts; I refrain including effects obviously from decades later. Any additions with new special effects are ones that I want to look like they reasonably could’ve been done when the film was made.

The bases are oohteedee’s D+77, D+80, and D+83.

Change ideas in italics are things that could happen, but could also not, either due to me changing my mind, or it being beyond my capabilities.

A New Hope (in-progress)

• Use Hal9000’s version of the SE opening crawl that adds “Episode IV: A New Hope”, but edited to match the theatrical timing and match with the score.
• Integrate “The Imperial March (Darth Vader’s Theme)” as Darth Vader’s character theme, in keeping with the rest of the saga. I mostly rely on alternate, unused versions to prevent repetition. ANH Imperial theme kept as the theme for the Empire in general, primarily the stormtroopers.
• Use SE version of Vader’s voice with the electronic flange effect, more in line with ESB and ROTJ.
• Perhaps deepen Vader’s voice slightly to also make it a bit more in-line with ESB and ROTJ.
• Perhaps Vader’s stormtrooper battalion is marked red or black.
• Trim Vader’s conversation with the Imperial commander to give him the same authoritative control over the conversation he has in ESB in ROTJ; he’s not questioned so much.
• Integrate “The Droids” musical motif.
• Use SE Tatooine sunset matte as R2-D2 explores.
• Use SE mattes of the Sandcrawler at night.
• Use SE Sandcrawler daytime shot, but trimmed down to the same length as the original.
• Add SE C-3PO line, “We’ve stopped.”
• Use SE version of Beru’s line, “Tell your Uncle”.
• Fix reused shot of R2 next to R5 when the latter is supposed to have already been bought.
• Cut Luke calling Leia beautiful when seeing part of her message.
• Use SE version of Beru’s line, “He has too much of his father in him”, that sounds concerned.
• Use SE version of Binary Sunset without the mountain (consistent with the wide shot).
• Use SE version of Obi-Wan’s hut matte.
• Altered Kenobi’s line to Luke introducing the lightsaber. “I wanted you to have this when you were old enough,” rather then, "Your father wanted you…”. (Hal9000)
• Reshuffling of shots used to make the Imperial officers more visibly frightened by Darth Vader, as in ESB and ROTJ.
• Vader chokes Motti sooner. He doesn’t tolerate being insulted so long.
• Tarkin does not command Vader to release Motti. Tarkin doesn’t have command over Vader; they’re equals who respect one another.
• Perhaps add alien Imperials throughout the film.
• Perhaps replace the guards throughout the film with royal guards, Vader’s own unique guards, or Death Troopers.
• Perhaps Darth Vader actually kills Motti. Would require removing him from the rest of the film, which could prove difficult. Alternatively, have the officer that Vader chokes and kills be an alien.
• Perhaps integrate Mustafar and Vader’s fortress at some point in the film.
• Perhaps have the Death Star orbiting Coruscant, using McQuarrie concept art of Had Abaddon planet view.
• Perhaps add brief shots of Coruscant to the film, but wholly new shots to replicate the Gothic look of McQuarrie’s concept art for Had Abaddon.
• The Cantina band can be heard softly outside as they enter. (Hal9000)
• Redesign orbital view of Alderaan so it doesn’t look so Earth-like.
• Leia doesn’t say Tarkin “holds Vader’s leash”.
• As in the shooting script, Tarkin gives the order to “fire when ready”, but Vader gives the order to “commence primary ignition” to destroy Alderaan, rather then a random officer.
• Perhaps change the Death Star’s green laser to crimson.
• New hyperspace visual when the Millennium Falcon arrives at Alderaan.
• Changed green Death Star schematics on the monitor to red; consistent with the Empire’s overall aesthetic, as seen in similar computer schematics in ESB.
• Use SE Aurebesh text on the Death Star tractor beam display.
• Very carefully integrated a heavily re-edited FXItInPost SC 38 Reimagined’s Darth Vader vs. Ben Kenobi duel. Alternate version will retain the original duel, but reedited with more “spice”.
  ** The audio is completely redone. The unused Vader vs. Luke theme from ESB is used instead of ROTS music, and OT sound effects are used.
  ** Intercut with original scene to remove bad Obi-Wan face compositing and create greater coherency.
  ** Dimmed the lightning and regraded the entire scene to both make the CG backgrounds less noticeable and make the scene scarier.
  ** Remove modern visual flare (lens flares, glowing wall lights, etc.).
• Perhaps integrate Vader saying, “Anakin Skywalker was weak. I destroyed him” during his duel with Kenobi.
• Use SE shot of Vader with his lightsaber correctly colored red as the doors close in front of him (included with D+77).
• Falcon interior accurately depicts our heroes going through hyperspace after Death Star escape.
• Perhaps lightly integrate some notes of “Han Solo and the Princess” musical motif during their conversation.
• Luke and Han’s conversation about Leia in the Falcon recut to remove Luke’s crush on Leia, but keeping the humorous exchange, “Princess and a guy like me?..” “No.”
• Added scene between Vader and Sidious after he kills Obi-Wan.
• Perhaps redesign Yavin IV (moon) with new mattes to be less Earth-like.
• Perhaps make Yavin (gas giant) a different color for the sake of an idea I have for ROTJ.
• Use SE Rebel base matte.
• Perhaps add alien Rebels throughout the film.
• Like the schematics on the Death Star, the plans during the briefing are recolored red.
• Add SE Biggs and Luke reunion scene.
• Attempt some compositing clean-up for shots from the theatrical Battle of Yavin.
• Luke’s, “Blast it, Biggs, where are you,” changed to, “Blast it, Wedge…". (Hal9000)
• Fix Vader’s helmet in some shots of him in is cockpit during the Battle of Yavin.
• Audio from radio drama and different shot of Luke to give him a more appropriate reaction to Biggs’ death.
• Use SE Death Star explosion.
• Use SE throne room with blue-screened actors instead of painted ones.
• Use SE credit to James Earl Jones as the voice of Darth Vader (included with D+77).

Empire Strikes Back (in-progress)

• Perhaps edit the title crawl to refer to Darth Vader as “the evil Sith lord” as opposed to “the evil lord”.
• Use SE Wampa scene.
• Obi-Wan refers to Yoda as “a Jedi Master who instructed me” instead of “the Jedi Master…” (Hal9000’s Custom SE).
• Add SE Luke line, “Thanks 3PO”.
• Cut Leia kissing Luke to make Han jealous, but retain the humor of the original scene as best as possible.
• Perhaps add alien Imperials and Rebels throughout the film.
• Perhaps Vader’s stormtrooper battalion is marked red or black.
• Perhaps replace the guards throughout the film with royal guards, Vader’s own unique guards, or Death Troopers.
• Perhaps integrate Mustafar and Vader’s fortress at some point in the film.
• Replace instances of non-Vader Imperial March usage with the Imperial motif from ANH. The Imperial March will be Darth Vader’s character theme.
• Add SE Luke line, “This is it!”.
• Add SE C-3PO line, “There’s nowhere to go.”
• Adywan Revisited version of wide shot of Dagobah with added white spider creature (from Ralph McQuarrie’s concept art).
• AR version of the Emperor’s hologram that uses the ROTJ look and recreation of theatrical dialogue.
• AR version of the reptile creatures in the dark side cave, made to look more alien.
• Temuera Morrison as Boba Fett (Hal9000’s improved versions that use lines from Battlefront). Alternate version keeps Jason Wingreen’s original lines.
• Final Cut version of Darth Vader, “I am your father” shot, which addresses the way the shot is clearly reversed at the end, giving it a sort of “bobble”.
• Darth Vader says, “Luke, we can destroy the Emperor”, rather then “you”.
• Cut Leia briefly kissing Luke on the lips in the back of the Falcon.
• AR version of Vader on the Executor during the escape from Bespin, addressing continuity issues.
• Use SE credit to James Earl Jones as the voice of Darth Vader (included with D+80).
• Credit Ian McDiarmid as the Emperor.

Return of the Jedi (in-progress)

• Redesign orbital view of Endor moon to make it look less Earth-like. (inspired by previous version of IlFanEditore’s edit)
• Perhaps incorporate Death Star musical motif from ANH, or a variation of it.
• Perhaps have Darth Vader’s shuttle depart from The Executor as opposed to a normal Star Destroyer.
• Perhaps give Vader’s shuttle a more individualized appearance.
• Perhaps add alien Imperials and Rebels throughout the film.
• Fix close-up shots of Darth Vader out of focus.
• Add SE Oola falling into the Rancor pit.
• Perhaps integrate a subplot in which Vader hires Boba to capture Luke.
• Perhaps integrate Mustafar and Vader’s fortress at some point in the film.
• Perhaps add brief shots of Coruscant to the film, but wholly new mattes to replicate the Gothic look of McQuarrie’s concept art for Had Abaddon.
• Cut Boba Fett comically missing his shot at Luke by a mile in the Sail Barge scene.
• Perhaps Boba is knocked into the Sarlacc by Luke (inspired by Possessed’s edit).
• Add SE rope around Han’s feet when he’s reaching for Lando.
• Perhaps Boba escapes the Sarlacc, but he’s killed by Vader for his failure (closing the subplot).
• Replace instances of non-Vader Imperial March usage with the Imperial motif from ANH. The Imperial March will be Darth Vader’s character theme. The Emperor’s theme will also be reserved for Palpatine.
• Perhaps give the Emperor’s shuttle a more individualized appearance.
• Perhaps make some of the Emperor’s advisors into aliens.
• Perhaps give Shuttle Tydirium a different design that looks more appropriate for holding cargo.
• Vader sensing Luke now has a crossfade, like their telepathy scene at the end of ESB.
• Perhaps make Endor moon appear more alien with new flora and/or bioluminescence, but still retaining most of the original filmmaking. (inspired by previous version of IlFanEditore’s edit)
• Perhaps Endor is the moon of a red gas giant like the original Yavin. As such, a red tint is added to scenes with the villains on the DSII, primarily the climax.
• Add a re-edited deleted scene; Vader force chokes and kills Jerjerrod when he tries to stop him from seeing the Emperor. He sardonically responds to “It is the Emperor’s command”, with “My apologies” (from Rogue One), before snapping his neck. This adds more tension between Vader and the Emperor.
• Perhaps replace Jerjerrod in the above scene with an alien officer so as to not create continuity issues, as Jerjerrod is later seen ordering the DSII to fire.
• Perhaps have Vader say, “Your mother once thought as you do” rather then Obi-Wan.
• Trim Vader’s, “I must obey my master”, to emphasize his own addiction to the dark side and scheme to turn Luke and kill the Emperor. Yes, the latter was intended, as confirmed in “The Making of ROTJ”, it’s just not as explicit as ESB.
• Perhaps the Emperor’s legion of his best troopers on Endor are marked purple, red, or black.
• Trim Ewoks slapstick during the Battle of Endor, but don’t cut all of it; comic relief is cool.
• Perhaps replace Jerjerrod when he orders the DSII to fire with an alien officer, if he’s not replaced when Vader forces his way into the Emperor’s throne room.
• Use SE version of the matte of the Emperor falling to his death.
• Use SE version of Anakin’s death with no eyebrows.
• Use SE version of Death Star II explosion.
• Add SE Planets Victory Celebration montage, but no Tatooine or “Wesa free!” from the Gungans. Tatooine’s inclusion was always weird to me; this is a hive of scum and villainy on the outskirts of the galaxy.
• Victory Celebration on Endor is a mix of the theatrical and SE. Mostly theatrical, using extended shots of Luke and his friends, as well as Luke winking at the Force ghosts. However, some SE additions are included.
• Final Cut version of Anakin’s force ghost which ages up Christensen to his 40s (his age at death), an ideal compromise between the two versions.

KurganX said:

What did he do that was so unforgivable?

This explains what happened, though as you’ll learn, he didn’t even actually do the thing that got him banned, sadly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_LKLmWzCTE

I would appreciate a link very much, Hal

May I have a link please?

You’re still going to include the added Imperial March, right? That was one of my favorite ideas from the original version of your edit, since I myself always thought it would be a great thing to edit in.

This is a re-edit of Godzilla, King of the Monsters! (1956), the American version of the Japanese Godzilla (1954), which combines it with the original version.
KOTM56’s own protagonist, Raymond Burr’s character Steve Martin, is added alongside most scenes of the original cast, whilst adhering to KOTM56’s narrative framing: a documentary-esque noir told from Steve’s perspective.
Due to the nature of the edit requiring subjective artistic choice in combining the two different films, this is an entirely different cut of the film.

This edit gets you the best of both worlds, with the brilliance of the original Japanese masterpiece and the great acting and iconic lines of Raymond Burr that I (and I’m sure many others) have lots of nostalgia for.
This is a great edit for people who like both versions for their own merits and don’t want to have to pick between the two when revisiting the original Godzilla. It’s also a potential way to introduce someone to the franchise if you’re not sure which version to show them.

This edit is available, just PM me if you would like to see it.

Both versions sourced from the Criterion Blu-Ray. Modifications to dimensions, brightness and contrast are made to both versions for coherency.

JP/54 - Original Japanese Version
US/KOTM56 - Godzilla: King of the Monsters!

Cut list:
Steve Martin’s fundamental narrative function is our POV character; everything is in the US version either something he witnesses or knows of. This edit follows this framing for narrative coherence.
As such, characters are introduced when Steve meets/interacts with them, only after which they can have independent scenes in JP. Steve’s narration delivering exposition is also mostly used in place of equivalent JP scenes.
However, I also include as much JP content as possible within this framework; subtitled JP dialogue is spliced in when Steve is watching conversations, and emphasis was placed on keeping important scenes with JP characters, as long as it doesn’t interfere with Steve’s role as the protagonist.

JP/54 - Original Japanese Version
US/KOTM56 - Godzilla: King of the Monsters!

-(US) Title and introduction to Steve Martin in the aftermath of Godzilla’s rampage. The film remains mostly an extended flashback told from Steve’s perspective.

-(JP) Godzilla destroys the Eiko-Maru. Used JP version to maintain mystery, as KOTM56 added Godzilla’s roar to the scene.

-Cut scene of Ogata and Emiko. Unfortunate, but Steve is our POV character and we haven’t been introduced to them yet.

-(US) Steve is stopped by security at the airport, meets Iwanaga, and learns of the destruction of the Eiko-Maru.

-(JP & US) Iwanaga takes Steve to the SDF Naval Office. Intercut with JP as Ogata and the coast guard talk about the disappearance of the Eiko-Maru.

-(JP) Godzilla sinks the Bingo-Maru.

-(JP) Military officials talk with families of people on the sunken ships.

-(JP) Survivors of Bingo-Maru are found by a third ship.

-(JP) Military reports that survivors were found.

-(JP) Military learns that the third ship was also sunk.

–Cut Hagiwara calling Dr. Yamane and telling him, “That’s three now!” to allow consistency with the next scene.

-(US) Steve leaves a message for his editor: now eight ships have been sunk, and shipping is shut down. It can be inferred that more ships have been destroyed since the previous scene. We were only viewing the perspective of a single shipping company, anyway.

-(JP & US) Masaji, a native of Odo Island and fisherman, washes ashore. Added narration by Steve introducing the island (to mitigate it kinda coming out of nowhere within this narrative framing), but omitted his implication that Masaji dies, as he’s seen later.

-(JP) Odo Island fishermen get no catch, an elder admonishes the youth for ridiculing belief in Godzilla.

-(JP & US) Steve, military officials, and reporter Hagiwara land on Odo Island to interview locals.

-Omitted US scene of Iwanaga and Steve interviewing a local. It’s just too cheesy (especially with how stereotypically the native is portrayed) and it conveys the same information as Hagiwara’s interview with Masaji.

-(US) Steve and Iwanaga watch islander ceremony and learn the legend of Godzilla.

-(JP & US) Steve and Iwanaga witness Godzilla attack and destroy the village amidst a storm. Intercut with Shinkichi losing his family.

–Truncated unnecessarily long shot of Shinkichi screaming for his mom and brother after Godzilla destroys their house.

-(JP & US) Odo Islanders testify before the Diet. Steve’s narration added to the opening to the scene, but not over the testimonies. Added shots of Steve listening and taking notes.

-(JP & US) Professor Yamane proposes a scientific expedition. Added shots of Steve listening.

–Steve introduces Dr. Yamane through narration when he appears before the Diet. Audio is taken from Yamane’s US introduction, which recontextualized footage from a scene taking place later in the JP version. This is done to retain said JP scene later on, whilst maintaining Steve as the POV character.

-(US) Steve leaves the press box, is granted permission to join the expedition by Yamane.

-(US) Expedition leaves for Odo Island, with Steve’s narration. In accordance with the KOTM56’s explanation that Serizawa is away conducting field tests, he is not present.

-(US) Steve narrates as he silently watches Ogata and Emiko, telling us of the love triangle between them and Serizawa through narration. I couldn’t add Ogata and Emiko’s JP dialogue as their conversation is about Serizawa seeing them off.

-(JP & US) Expedition surveying Odo Island. Added Steve and Iwanaga in the crowd.

–Truncated overly long shot of Islander hitting the bell.

–Omitted Iwanaga telling Steve the islanders are heading up the hills for safety, which contradicts footage and dialogue showing they’re actually going up to fight the creature.

-(JP & US) Godzilla rises from behind the mountain. Added shots of Steve and Iwanaga.

–Re-edited US audio to remove weird audio echo effects.

-(JP & US) Yamane’s report to the Diet. Added Steve watching.

–Purposefully used contemplative shots of Steve when Yamane states that H-bombs are responsible for Godzilla, as well as in the middle of the heated argument. Shot choice implies he agrees with the woman who declares Godzilla should be made public.

-(JP) Train scene with citizens’ reaction to newspaper report of Godzilla.

-(US) Steve calls his editor Lawrence and Serizawa.

-(JP) Ogata and Emiko’s conversation about Serizawa.

–Hagiwara’s talk with Emiko and Ogata and interview with Serizawa had to go. Serizawa told Steve that Emiko initiated the meeting and indicated it’s personal. Steve and Serizawa’s phone call is important; their friendship is the reason Steve stops in Japan.

-Cut shots of Ogata and Emiko driving to their respective destinations.

-(JP & US) Added Steve’s narration to the beginning of Emiko at Serizawa’s house. The rest, Serizawa showing her the Oxygen Destroyer, is purely JP.

-(JP) Emiko returns home but doesn’t tell Ogata what happened.

-(JP) The Navy tries to kill Godzilla with depth charges. Yamane sits alone in his office, upset. In 54, this happens before Emiko visits Serizawa. KOTM56’s restructure is used to maintain consistency with Steve’s phone conversations with Lawrence and Serizawa.

-(US) A party boat spots Godzilla in Tokyo Bay, with Steve’s narration at the beginning.

-(US) Steve narrates over a montage as Japan is now put into a state of panic.

-(JP) Military officials call Yamane to a meeting, but he has no idea how to kill Godzilla. This scene, important to Yamane’s characterization, is able to be kept because I moved Steve’s narration introducing Yamane to his introduction scene in 54.

-(JP & US) Godzilla’s first rampage. Steve added. Used some shots of Godzilla from KOTM56, as its Criterion transfer actually preserves more detail then Criterion’s transfer for 54, which is sometimes too dark and hard to see Godzilla.

-Added Godzilla roars in shots where his mouth is open, but there’s no roar.

-(US) Iwanaga tells Steve about the military’s plan, thereby utilizing KOTM56’s more logical explanation for the electric towers. They’re already present but charged with extra voltage, rather than the military building an entire row of electric towers in less than 24 hours. It’s still odd, but at least less so.

-(JP & US) Montage of residents being evacuated with Steve’s narration.

-(US) Montage of military mobilization narrated by Steve. In KOTM56 this is placed before Godzilla’s first rampage, but is moved to the JP cut’s placement, as the military doesn’t intervene until the second rampage.

-(JP) Ogata, intending to ask Yamane for permission to marry Emiko, gets himself thrown out of the house.

-(JP & US) Godzilla makes landfall and destroys the electric towers. Added Steve shots and narration as he reports live. Used the US cut’s more suspenseful edit of Godzilla’s approach, as well as a chunk of its footage, as it preserves more detail.

–Omitted Steve stating that everyone is off the streets by nightfall. As we see during the rampage, this isn’t true.

–Cut misaligned artillery shot as Godzilla destroys the electric towers.

-(JP & US) Godzilla’s second rampage. Mostly JP. Added Steve shots and narration recording his report during the attack, and Godzilla destroying the building Steve is in, re-edited to maintain continuity with the JP rampage sequence. Used a lot of shots of Godzilla from the transfer for KOTM56 for the same reason as the first rampage.

–Added Godzilla roars in shots where his mouth is open, but there’s no roar.

–Truncated Godzilla vs. Jet fighters scene, more like the US cut.

-(JP) Aftermath of Godzilla’s attack.

-(JP & US) Emiko tells Ogata and Steve about the Oxygen Destroyer, Steve urges them to convince Serizawa to use the weapon. Purely JP flashback of Serizawa’s demonstration to Emiko and their subsequent conversation.

–Removed mention of Hagiwara as Serizawa talks to Emiko about the Oxygen Destroyer for continuity.

-(JP) Ogata and Emiko convince Serizawa to use the Oxygen Destroyer against Godzilla.

–Added my own subtitles so Serizawa asks about Steve, and Ogata tells him he’s recovering in the hospital.

–Also added subtitles so Emiko mentions that she told both Ogata and Steve of the Oxygen Destroyer.

-(US) Steve’s narration as the ship makes its way to Tokyo Bay.

-(JP) Serizawa insists that he help Ogata use the Oxygen Destroyer.

–Serizawa asks Steve to get him a diving suit rather than Ogata. Small change, but it allows Steve to feel more present with the JP characters.

–Added original exchanges between Steve and Serizawa before the latter goes underwater, using other dialogue from the US cut. With the presence of the JP scene of Serizawa asking for a diving suit, it feels odd that he never bothers to talk to his old college friend, and Steve is otherwise oddly absent from the scene.

—Serizawa says, “Steve, promise to keep my secret.” Steve responds “Of course.” In this cut, it’s more ambiguous how much the public knows about the Oxygen Destroyer. This could also be interpreted as Serizawa having told Steve what he plans to do, and he’s asking him again not to tell Ogata and Emiko.

—As Serizawa holds the OD with a contemplative face, Steve asks him, “Serizawa, is something wrong?”. I arranged footage so Steve and Serizawa appear to look at each other after Serizawa responds.

-(JP & US) The Death of Godzilla. Added Steve on the boat. Swapped a couple of Steve’s shots from their placement in the US cut, as I felt one matched Steve’s reaction to Serizawa choosing to die more.

–Serizawa says “Goodbye Steve”, as he cuts his wire.

-(JP & US) Mixed JP and US ending, keeping both Yamane’s iconic final line and Steve’s speech in honor of his friend’s sacrifice.

G&G-Fan said:

1. Empire Strikes Back (great)
2. Return of the Jedi (great)
3. Revenge of the Sith (great)
4. A New Hope (great)
5. Rogue One (great)
6. The Force Awakens (pretty good)
7. Solo (mediocre)
8. Attack of the Clones (has it’s highlights)
9. Phanthom Menace (has it’s highlights)
10. The Last Jedi (why…)

I know this is over a year old but I just thought I would briefly comment my new sentiments. The list is still pretty accurate, but believe it or not I’d probably now put TPM and AOTC above TFA and possibly Solo, because at least they actually contribute and are essential to the saga and lore. They have great parts. Meanwhile IMO the sequel trilogy to the Star Wars saga is like a lamprey that’s latched itself onto a shark: it’s something forced onto something else that was already functioning perfectly without it, doesn’t flow right with the rest of the body, and literally just sucks from it like a parasite. Sound unpleasant? Exactly. Like the sequel trilogy.

Rise of Skywalker is second to worst, only beat still by The Last Jedi.

I know this is probably a sacrilegious thing to say, but I think Hayden as Anakin’s force ghost actually makes more sense. It might sound dumb right now but let me explain.

Vader/Anakin was 46 when he died. Hayden is currently 39 and doesn’t look much different then he did in ROTS. I’m pretty sure he’s not going to suddenly look 78 in 7 years.

So even if we take into account the fact that he was good again when he died so ROTS wasn’t the last time he was on the light side of the force, it STILL makes more sense for Hayden to be the ghost.

I’m not sure if this has been suggested yet or not, but what about Vader saying to Luke “Your mother once thought as you do” instead of “Obi-Wan once thought as you do”. I think that would be pretty impactful.

octoroxx’s fan-edits for Episodes 1 and 2 (you can find them on fanedit.org), then episode 3, Rogue One, the original trilogy (original, not special edition), and Force Awakens completely intact, and Ivan Ortega’s Last Jedi fan-edit (it hasn’t come out yet but from what I’ve heard it’s going to be amazing)

1. Empire Strikes Back (great)
2. Return of the Jedi (great)
3. Revenge of the Sith (great)
4. A New Hope (great)
5. Rogue One (great)
6. The Force Awakens (pretty good)
7. Solo (mediocre)
8. Attack of the Clones (has it’s highlights)
9. Phanthom Menace (has it’s highlights)
10. The Last Jedi (why…)

I’ve either made or thought up of ideas for edits for some of the Heisei films. Even though it’s my favorite Godzilla series (I especially love Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla II, King Ghidorah, Destoroyah, and Biollante, my top four all time favorite Godzilla films), they’re the one’s I watch the most so I knew going in what to fix.

First, Godzilla vs. Mothra. I actually like this movie quite a bit, it’s in my top 15, but it’s not without it’s flaws. Most of the cuts were cutting the lines where that one dude (the one often seen with Akira Takarada’s character in the gray suit and grey hair) where he kept on making goofy faces with horrible line delivery, the unnecessary environmentalism stuff, some of the wonky effects shots, and adding a roar sound effect for all of the shots where Godzilla’s mouth is open but there’s no roar (which is such a pet peeve of mine; literally every Godzilla film has at least one occasion, I’ve checked, where this happens but this is the one that suffers the most and it’s the most noticeable here; there’s so many shots here that just grind my gears because he’s clearly meant to be roaring but there’s no roar sound effect. There could be a shot where it’s just him in the center of the frame and there’s no roar sound. Sound designers? Hello?! Though I guess it’s still better then literally giving Godzilla SpaceGodzilla’s roar in some shots two films later).

I’ve been wanting to make a Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla II extended cut, as Takao Okawara initially wanted too, adding in all (or just most) of the scenes cut from the film, especially Miki’s interaction with Baby (which I literally have no idea why they cut because it’s great). I have two problems though that keep me from doing it, which are that I can’t understand Japanese and no subtitles seem to exist anywhere so it would be impossible for anyone who doesn’t speak Japanese to understand the added in human scenes because there’s no subtitles, and second, I can’t find the scenes in a good quality. If someone would be willing to help me fix any of these two problems, I will be eternally grateful. Other then that I wouldn’t make any changes to the film because I absolutely love this film so much (my favorite of all time) and the editing is excellent.

Godzilla vs. SpaceGodzilla is easily the one I’ve edited the most because it’s the most flawed. I cut everything about G-Force and the UNGCC in the first act besides the opening scene so I could remove the awful space battle with no eyebrows raised, the subplot about Miki having a connection with the fairies, all of the times Kiyo acts like a wimp and complains about having to do the simplest of jobs (like climbing) on Birth Island despite working for an organization that fights kaiju, the butt shot, the scene where Koji and Kiyo suddenly go from Project T to killing Godzilla and being so dim witted they think they can kill Godzilla with guns, Miki deciding to stay on the island, the whole Mafia subplot, the whole Miki and Koji love subplot (including the time where she helps Koji get Yuki get his foot un-stuck using telekinesis), and some parts of the final battle that made it drag out. I ended up cutting it do only an hour and 15 minutes and it’s perfectly coherent. I would add back in the deleted scene of Godzilla trying to free his son but the scene hasn’t been released at all, which is a shame.

I haven’t touched Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah because literally my only problem (the fact that, while Wikizilla’s video perfectly clears up the time travel stuff, the movie itself doesn’t clearly explain it enough) can’t be fixed, I haven’t touched Godzilla vs. Biollante either, and for Godzilla vs. Destoroyah I think I went in and trimmed like one or two wonky effects shots and that’s it.

I may make my own thread if you guys want me to elaborate more on the one’s I changed (just one thread for all of the films though, don’t want to unnecessarily clutter the forum). I could end up making some for the Showa and Millennium films as well if I feel like it (some ideas that come to mind are trimming Monster Zero a little so the pacing is better because the pacing is horrendous, cutting the Minilla subplot from Final Wars, and adding the Steve Martin scenes to the original Gojira).