crissrudd4554

For what it’s worth the upcoming 4K release will apparently include the mono.

screams in the void said:

Director said:

screams in the void said:

Director said:

“The special editions were not that bad, but people insult them because after the release of the VHS/LaserDisc/DVD of the 1997 Special Edition”

Well ,the 97 Special Edition was never released on DVD , but even further changes were made to the movies in 2004 for the DVD debut of the OT , and then again in 2011 for the blu ray , and again in 2019 for D+

" people realised the original versions will never be re-released again."…you got that right , its the reason this here site exists .

and the 2006 DVDs were a slap in the face

The Special editon was released on DVD, but not many have the DVDs of them.

^ Ummm…no . The 1997 Special editions were never officially released on DVD .There are bootlegs floating around out there that look like official product , but they are just that…bootlegs , mostly using the 97 special edition laser discs as a source .

Yeah those “Five Star Collection” DVDs that even put “Anamorphic Widecreen” on the front covers even though they were using NON-anamorphic wisdescreen LD versions.

Very sad news to hear. Underrated actor with a voice and presence that immediately captivated you. He will be missed. RIP.

springfeel said:

Has anyone got the DVD audio I’d like to sync it to the new 4k

Which DVD?? The original Goodtimes DVD or either the 2003 or 2015 DVDs by Universal??

Even the whole transparency fix in the snow battle isn’t “fixed” it’s just reduced enough that the transparency is far less detectable. It’s still there though.

I wanna say he was referring to the 2006 DVDs which used the Laserdisc transfers for their source but you never know with this man. It’s sad yet unsurprising that he uses everyone’s disappointment of the actual TRANSFERS as justification that the original versions of the movies were in fact inferior/incomplete films.

If those LD masters had been upgraded to 16:9 with a bit of upscaling I guarantee 60%-70% of the complaints people had with those DVDs wouldn’t have happened. Sure the 1993 masters weren’t perfect. Coloring was off at times, some poor DNR applied but with some minor enhancements and upgrading to modern video proportions they could’ve been acceptable in 2006.

It’s just sad that he’s so convinced the SE’s were better because people were upset with those 2006 DVDs (again I’m assuming that’s what he meant) when it was the transfers people were upset with not the films! He clearly feels “if they aren’t happy with those versions in a older outdated video master that isn’t even upscaled for modern viewing than it’s clear the films were bad”. (Sighs)

By most accounts there aren’t any surviving prints of the film with the epilogue intact. What little has survived is not enough for a full restoration. This is why the epilogue is only shown in brief clips in the documentary on the DVD/BD.

TylerDurden389 said:

When Beihn first shoots Arnold, you could hear the original mono shotgun sound effect layered underneath the 5.1 version. I kinda heard it the second time (before Arnold goes through the window). Arnie’s uzi still sounds like the 5.1 mix.

Which IMO only makes it worse and inconsistent. It just sounds odd having an effect that goes BLAM played under an effect going poof. What makes it even more strange is during the parking garage shootout in the remix both the Terminator and Reese’s guns make different sounds despite both being the same model shotgun. Yes Reese’s has an extended magazine tube but it’s the same shotgun.

No I do not.

Making of Star Wars

https://youtu.be/FSuDjjlIPak?si=xDdUKW4sMPqY_zNg

Even though I prefer the original versions, the SE era was special to me since that was more or less the time of my Star Wars upbringing (I wasn’t around during the original run). I saw the SE of ANH in theaters (still have the ticket somewhere actually) but I was still pretty young so I can’t remember much of it but the POTF 2 figures, Micro Machine sets, and all sorts of late 90s Star Wars paraphernalia has definitely stayed with me. The ‘95 set was the first time I owned them on video and naturally didn’t really know especially at that age the true meaning and impact the words “One Last Time” actually had. It was an exciting time but bittersweet too in retrospect.

Don’t look at me I’m one crazy mofo! I had to pop a cop cause he wasn’t giving me my props in Oaktown!

Umm….

I am surprised that in all the releases no attempt was made to correct the brief shots in the Obi-Wan/Vader duel where the blade colors switch.

On top of that, they even still sported the “Limited Edition” tag on the front when they were slimmed down for the 2008 DVD set.

Mocata said:

Luke would probably never have thought about leaving if a single port was so busy. There’s probably a thriving metropolis nearby if all that traffic came and went. Even the little CGI creatures ruin the idea that it’s a barren wasteland.

I was about to make a comment along those lines. Expanding Mos Eisley definitely contradicts the notion Luke’s sets about Tatooine with his earlier remarks. A buzzing spaceport with scurrying creatures, various alien life, and speeders galore definitely doesn’t fit the idea of Tatooine being the planet the farthest from the “bright center of the universe”.

Hydra Spectre said:

The new Wampa scene actually heightens the suspense over the original. In the original, you just get faint glimpses of the Wampa and the fate of Luke’s Tauntaun is left up in the air. People already know what the Wampa looks like so there’s no point in hiding it. And it’s actually more suspenseful to show him feasting on the Tauntaun’s carcass, heightening the tension that the Wampa would eat Luke next.

Disagree respectfully. Not showing IMO heightens the tension more because you never know where the Wampa is or when he will show up. Repeatedly cutting back and forth between Luke and the Wampa makes the situation less dire because the Wampa clearly has a face full of food and only shows us the audience that yes Luke is in a dire situation and needs to get out ASAP but the tension is robbed but revealing too much of the Wampa beforehand.

Please see this thread.

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Return-Of-The-Jedis-40th-anniversary/id/101683

LexX said:

Fang Zei said:

ThatPixarGuy said:

SomethingStarWarsRelated said:

ThatPixarGuy said:

I’m seeing a 40th anniversary screening with some family and friends on Saturday. The theatrical cut would be preferable of course, but I’m just happy to see a good Star Wars film in theaters haha.

Was it ever clarified why Empire’s 40th anniversary screenings used the 2011 Blu-ray rather than the more recent 2019 transfer? Hopefully that won’t be the same case here…

Yes, I was just wondering this. Once you see it, could you let us know which version it is?

Sure!

The only thing that would really give it away is the color timing, as the 2011 and 2019 versions are basically otherwise identical.

The opening logos are different as well.

Yep. 20th Century Fox logo no longer has the NewsCorporation byline and the Lucasfilm logo has been updated.

And technically Spielberg is STILL revising his films on home video. Maybe not to full on Lucas level but the idea that the versions of his movies available right now are fully true to the theatrical versions is false. There’s been recompositing, minor digital tweaks to correct matting and other things, changes in color timing, changes to audio. So if anything he’s not really proving himself to be any better than his buddy George when it comes to preserving his work as is. Yes the changes might be minor in comparison but they’re still changes.

Star Wars- I alternate but typically call it A New Hope

Empire Strikes Back- Empire

Return of the Jedi- Jedi

All others I call by their episode title (Phantom Menace- Phantom Menace, etc.) though I might refer to Attack of the Clones as Clones on rare occasions.

Interesting that this recent interview with John Williams uses the theatrical opening crawl at one point. Looks like the GOUT unconverted to 16:9 but nonetheless still cool to see it used in more recent media.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WfYwrW8KMHo&t=218s

I’m honestly not sure Id want those even if they had the OUT. Ok maybe I don’t hate it THAT much but still.

crissrudd4554 said:

Not an ‘alteration’ alteration but worth mentioning. This is regarding the movie Indian in the Cupboard. For the US Theatrical release and International video releases the film was distributed by Paramount. For International Theatrical release and US video releases it was distributed by Columbia. For the Paramount release, Paramount gets first billing in the opening credits. For the Columbia release it’s reversed.

Paramount

Columbia

Same for end credits. Note the Paramount version has 1995 in Roman Numerals while the Columbia version is regular numbers??

Paramount

Columbia

I know this thread is basically dead but going back to this old post I figured I would chip in on this film again since I recently got the Blu-ray. While the Blu-ray still uses the Columbia version (it is a Sony release afterall) I noticed something interesting with the end credits. First off it uses the end credits from the Paramount version since Paramount is credited first with the copyright and additionally the Columbia logo at the end fades in a second or two later than it had before.

Dream Weaver was always a different recording. Gary Wright re-recorded it specifically for the film.